Topic: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

[Brian Blessed]

That tracking back was superb and testament to the spirit which exists between these players.

The one after our first corner, sprinting back to our box...it was almost as enjoyable as his goals. An absolute joy to watch.

[Kekule]

I see the diving git stayed on his feet and tried to score instead of bellyflopping and getting an opponent sent off for a professional foul. Fucking cheating again.

He’s getting a reputation. 

[jillcwhomever]

The one after our first corner, sprinting back to our box...it was almost as enjoyable as his goals. An absolute joy to watch.

It's a shame some people don't notice just how much more there is to his play then his attacking. As you say, he's a joy to watch.

[kennedy81]

The one after our first corner, sprinting back to our box...it was almost as enjoyable as his goals. An absolute joy to watch.

Yeah, that was great to see. You won't see many of the world's top strikers doing that.

[kennedy81]

https://twitter.com/MagicMo11LFC/status/1115703943462563840

[jckliew]

https://twitter.com/MagicMo11LFC/status/1115703943462563840

Our Speedy Gonzales! 

[TepidT2O]

Brilliant cover that

[royhendo]

Would be nice if it got giffed. (Is that a verb?)

[Ghost Town]

Would be nice if it got giffed. (Is that a verb?)

Never look a giffed horse in the mouth

[rocco]

Could there be retrospective action from UEFA on Salahs tackle ?

[dudleyred]

Could there be retrospective action from UEFA on Salahs tackle ?

Doubt it as  was reviewed by VAR

[rocco]

Doubt it as  was reviewed by VAR

Ok
Didn’t think it was reviewed by Var

[Mister Flip Flop]

Great to see him make that challange last night.

[redk84]

This is hyper critical....but I'd have liked to have seen him go down on that challenge when through 1on1.

Kudos for staying on his feet and trying to score n all that, but lets face it nobody gives a shit the hundreds of times he does that sorta thing and will only focus on the soft ones he goes over on.

At that point in the game.....1 goal up....would have been 1 man up....tie over I think

[Redknight60]

This is hyper critical....but I'd have liked to have seen him go down on that challenge when through 1on1.

Kudos for staying on his feet and trying to score n all that, but lets face it nobody gives a shit the hundreds of times he does that sorta thing and will only focus on the soft ones he goes over on.

At that point in the game.....1 goal up....would have been 1 man up....tie over I think

I see what you are saying but far from a given we would have come away with a tie ending result just because they went down to ten. They switched to a more defensive style after going 0-2 and actually dealt with us well so they likely would have gone to that immediately going down to ten. Also the chance to go 2 up by staying on his feet was massive, I think he did the correct thing.

[redk84]

I see what you are saying but far from a given we would have come away with a tie ending result just because they went down to ten. They switched to a more defensive style after going 0-2 and actually dealt with us well so they likely would have gone to that immediately going down to ten. Also the chance to go 2 up by staying on his feet was massive, I think he did the correct thing.

Granted. We might not have necessarily gone on to batter them....and yeah they would have sat back a bit more

Think we would have got the same result atleast.....with more minutes for our fringe players....an easier game for us due to the man advantage too....and one of their CB's being suspended for the next leg....

But yeah neither here nor there now. Salah played well yesterday, just wasn't coming off for him at certain times.
He will be fired up for the weekend i'd expect, really hope he gets a goal against Chelsea

[fowlermagic]

Hats off to him seeing the danger last night when Porto were breaking as that was tremendous cover as showed he is a team player all the way. Brilliant cover and another reason why we are lucky to have such a character in the team. A pure humble genius.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

This is hyper critical....but I'd have liked to have seen him go down on that challenge when through 1on1.

Kudos for staying on his feet and trying to score n all that, but lets face it nobody gives a shit the hundreds of times he does that sorta thing and will only focus on the soft ones he goes over on.

At that point in the game.....1 goal up....would have been 1 man up....tie over I think

Know what you're saying but the media shitstorm would have lasted weeks (not that I'm arsed about it myself, but the penalty stuff looks like it got to him)

Will be interesting to see whether Mo gets hung out to dry about the challenge - the fact he was held is already being glossed over. Whenever the media favourites do one like that, it gets explained away by the old "he's not that type of player" excuse, wonder if he'll benefit from the same level of understanding given that he really is not that type of player.

[Red Beret]

https://twitter.com/MagicMo11LFC/status/1115703943462563840

Some of the comments in that about Mo's "stamp"

I wouldn't have argued with the card but equally it wasn't malicious either.  Of course we've seen them given, and plenty of players get red carded over unintentional contact like this.  To read those comments though, you'd think Mo had tried to slice the guy's leg open.

The Porto player could have made a meal of it, but didn't, so kudos on that.  Equally Mo could have gone down earlier but didn't.

It was a great game of football, but sadly incidents like this detract from the quality of the game.

[jdet90]

I can't remember a goal this season where he's cut in and curled it far corner.

Basically his trademark last year. He's got to find one eventually...

I also really don't get this view on the 'red card'. He's just trying to place his foot down over the far side of the ball to shield it, it's not even a tackle. How people can call it a 'stamp' is beyond me. I wouldn't expect a red card for any player for that.

[Bolrick]

No retrospective action. Awesome.

[Welshred]

I can't remember a goal this season where he's cut in and curled it far corner.

Would have had one last night were it not for Bobby blocking it!

[Boaty McBoatface]

I can't remember a goal this season where he's cut in and curled it far corner.

Basically his trademark last year. He's got to find one eventually...

Would have had one last night were it not for Bobby blocking it!

Bobby just stood where he thought Mo was least likely to put it.

[redgriffin73]

I also really don't get this view on the 'red card'. He's just trying to place his foot down over the far side of the ball to shield it, it's not even a tackle. How people can call it a 'stamp' is beyond me. I wouldn't expect a red card for any player for that.

That rings a bell that there was a similar argument for a Pogba 'stamp' earlier this season, can't remember if he got punished for it though.

[tubby]

That rings a bell that there was a similar argument for a Pogba 'stamp' earlier this season, can't remember if he got punished for it though.

He didn't get sent off for it.  Pogba has done it twice that I remember, exact same sort of motion, trying to step over the ball to shield it and catching the opponent high up his leg.

[JackWard33]

It’s a red because it’s reckless endangerment of an opponent - it doesn’t matter what his intent is
He was honestly trying to get the ball but the result is the problem. Players can’t come over the ball like that
Luckily for us the law wasn’t applied - things are going our way at the moment

[TepidT2O]

It’s a red because it’s reckless endangerment of an opponent - it doesn’t matter what his intent is
He was honestly trying to get the ball but the result is the problem. Players can’t come over the ball like that
Luckily for us the law wasn’t applied - things are going our way at the moment

I don’t think it was. There wasn’t excessive force.  The player didn’t even react when it happened.

[classycarra]

He didn't get sent off for it.  Pogba has done it twice that I remember, exact same sort of motion, trying to step over the ball to shield it and catching the opponent high up his leg.

Didn't he get a second yellow for doing it in one game?

I remember Adebayor got a red card for the same thing against us, during his Arsenal days I think.

It’s a red because it’s reckless endangerment of an opponent - it doesn’t matter what his intent is
He was honestly trying to get the ball but the result is the problem. Players can’t come over the ball like that
Luckily for us the law wasn’t applied - things are going our way at the moment

This. Intent's got nothing to do with it. Think we benefited from VAR being a bombscare. They might have accounted for the foul(s) on Mo moments before, which is daft when you consider the ref is supposed to punish dangerous actions regardless of whether the game is live.

[vagabond]

I don’t think it was. There wasn’t excessive force.  The player didn’t even react when it happened.

I don't think those things are relevant -- it was dangerous, even if no damage was done.

[TepidT2O]

I don't think those things are relevant -- it was dangerous, even if no damage was done.

Is excessive force not one of the criteria?

[classycarra]

Is excessive force not one of the criteria?

It can be if it's a sliding tackle that gets the ball, but is considered too dangerous. But I don't think it needs considering/applies when the ball is entirely missed and the full boot goes studs first onto a players shin

[jillcwhomever]

I don't remember such a fuss being made when Joe Gomez got his leg broken. It's simply incredible how the moment its one of our players every pundit is up in arms about it.

[El Denzel Pepito]

If Hazard did that to Virgil on the weekend, I think there'd be a lot of people changing their opinions on the foul. It was a red, in my opinion. There wasn't too much force for sure and it certainly wasn't meant, but in terms of the letter of the law, it's a red card for me. He missed the ball and went over it, studs first and quite high up on the leg. I'm glad he wasn't sent off as it would have felt a bit unjust but I can totally see why rival supporters have been up in arms about it.

[PhaseOfPlay]

Had my own training so I didn't see the match until just now, but that's a possible red card. He's a lucky boy:

[TepidT2O]

Had my own training so I didn't see the match until just now, but that's a possible red card. He's a lucky boy:

And I suspect the force of the impact was very low which is why he got off.

[classycarra]

And I suspect the force of the impact was very low which is why he got off.

Standing almost full weight on a players shin while his leg is grounded is as close an example of being "in danger of injuring an opponent" that I can think of outside of deliberate violence

[El Denzel Pepito]

I don't remember such a fuss being made when Joe Gomez got his leg broken. It's simply incredible how the moment its one of our players every pundit is up in arms about it.

I get your point mate. But at the same time, if it was someone like Gini/Origi/Shaqiri/Robbo, I don't think it would be talked about as much either. Of course the media/pundits will talk about it when it's Salah. They'd do the same if it was Hazard/Kane/Alli/Sterling too, IMO. Big players are talked about more and criticised more simply because the spotlight is on them and rival supporters want to read/hear about them fucking up.

I don't think it's down to it being a Liverpool player per-se, it's just the way the media works.

[PhaseOfPlay]

I don't remember such a fuss being made when Joe Gomez got his leg broken. It's simply incredible how the moment its one of our players every pundit is up in arms about it.

I think the difference is that Mee got the ball and was sliding through because of the wet conditions, but for all intents and purposes it was a clearing tackle. But also, wasn't Gomez's leg break when he hit the hoardings, rather than from the tackle itself? I'm a bit hazy on that one.

[jillcwhomever]

I get your point mate. But at the same time, if it was someone like Gini/Origi/Shaqiri/Robbo, I don't think it would be talked about as much either. Of course the media/pundits will talk about it when it's Salah. They'd do the same if it was Hazard/Kane/Alli/Sterling too, IMO. Big players are talked about more and criticised more simply because the spotlight is on them and rival supporters want to read/hear about them fucking up.

I don't think it's down to it being a Liverpool player per-se, it's just the way the media works.

I understand the point your making but I respectfully disagree. I just think they exaggerate everything to do with Salah, I suspect they want to drive him out of Liverpool altogether. It's the way the media are, the moment we are making progress. Look at the "diving" incidents before, pundits praying for Salah's soul while blatantly ignoring English players diving on a regular basis. There is never the same fuss about diving when a Kane, Ali or Sterling does it. But the whole world resounds with outrage when they accuse Salah of it.

[jillcwhomever]

I think the difference is that Mee got the ball and was sliding through because of the wet conditions, but for all intents and purposes it was a clearing tackle. But also, wasn't Gomez's leg break when he hit the hoardings, rather than from the tackle itself? I'm a bit hazy on that one.

The point Klopp made at the time and I agree with him was that the Burnley player wasn't in control espeically with the extra slippery conditions. Once he made contact he couldn't control what happened next and there was no way Gomez could do anything other than colllide into the hoardings. Sometimes you need to be a bit more cautious.