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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3600 on: March 24, 2012, 08:58:47 pm »
If the players were tired why not use those who have hardly played like Maxi, Aurelio, Shelvey and Carroll? Im sorry Kenny love yeah to bits but, thats a really lame excuse imo.

He needs to say something, but agree about playing Coates, Maxi, Aurelio and Shelvey. Carroll I think has played quite a few games.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3601 on: March 24, 2012, 08:59:25 pm »
You are a tabloid hack and I claim my 5 pounds!

What a daft post!

kenny will be gone in the summer

i have never seen a liverpool team play as badly as this in the second half of a season

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3602 on: March 24, 2012, 09:00:46 pm »
Not happy with his comments on Sterling, although I don't think that's what he meant. It was more poor wording. I hope.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3603 on: March 24, 2012, 09:01:54 pm »
tiredeness is a poor excuse

kenny has lost the dressing room for me

no passion or fight in this liverpool team

Fascinating.

How do you know?

This is the same Manager that you were lording last month for winning a pot at Wembley.


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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3604 on: March 24, 2012, 09:03:56 pm »
I feel a little down more by the excuses rather than anything else.

It feels as if Kenny is fostering a loser's mentality, where poor performances can be excused and i never thought Kenny would do that.

It's my fault for holding him on a pedestal. He's only human, with warts and all.

Have a word with yourself

Fostering a losing mentality?

Do fuck off with that
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« Reply #3605 on: March 24, 2012, 09:04:26 pm »
I don't know what others think about Kenny citing tiredness as a reason/excuse but I thought for example Gerrard looked absolutely shattered today and way off the pace so I don't think Kenny is that far off the truth there. He could hardly have rested Stevie or Suarez but after Everton, Stoke and QPR in quick succession there is no doubt some of the players like those two, our most important players, looked jaded to me.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3606 on: March 24, 2012, 09:04:42 pm »
He needs to say something, but agree about playing Coates, Maxi, Aurelio and Shelvey. Carroll I think has played quite a few games.

I'd rather he came out and say it was a totally unexceptable performance. Hes protected those set of players time and time again this season and its not worked. They keep on letting him down.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3607 on: March 24, 2012, 09:08:10 pm »
kenny will be gone in the summer

i have never seen a liverpool team play as badly as this in the second half of a season

Any more of that and one thing that is for sure is that Kenny will last longer than you.
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3608 on: March 24, 2012, 09:08:42 pm »
kenny will be gone in the summer

i have never seen a liverpool team play as badly as this in the second half of a season

Not been a Liverpool fan long then. Kenny will not be gone in the summer. He will stay, learn from the mistakes made and come back hungrier and more determined than ever....if that is possible. Do you not know the calibre of this man? The owners, thank God, are a patient bunch, look at their track record at Boston, there are no knee jerkers among 'em. They will invest in the squad and in Kenny. There is no alternative, just another barren couple of seasons if they dare sack Kenny. Another rebuild with another squad and another melt down on another thread on another...
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3609 on: March 24, 2012, 09:10:18 pm »
In all the time I've had a season ticket I've left the match early three times. First when I. Ged's final season we got beat by Southampton, in Rafa's final home game when Chelsea beat us and then today when I could take no more. It was hurting my eyes. I think enough is enough we've nit been anywhere good enough, Carling Cup or not. Kenny needs to step aside at the end of the season even were we ti win the FA Cup.

Kenny stepping aside at the end of THIS season would be awful for the club. The team is not stabilized yet, and we don't really know the full potential of all the new players that we have brought in over the last 14 months. Our manager deserves at least another year.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3610 on: March 24, 2012, 09:10:30 pm »
Sometimes you cant defend the indefensible, tell it how it is.....

"Simply not good enough for Liverpool Football Club" would of been a more accurate answer


if we are making excuses is shows the problems that we have with the squad not being good enough

i see more problems than solutions for liverpool


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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3611 on: March 24, 2012, 09:10:39 pm »
Sometimes you cant defend the indefensible, tell it how it is.....

"Simply not good enough for Liverpool Football Club" would of been a more accurate answer

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3612 on: March 24, 2012, 09:11:43 pm »
Maybe the players were tired, maybe not. He's the manager so he would know better than us. I just find it a bit strange when we played Stoke last Sunday and since then in exactly the same number of days they have been down to London like us and nearly taken three points off Spurs whilst we were losing to a team in the bottom three. Then today they led at home to Man City before being pegged back again for a draw, while we were losing at home to another side in the bottom three. This from a side who have a smaller squad than ours and who have already played more games than we have including European travel AND as a side who's whole approach is based upon work rate. Maybe their players are just fitter than ours but the "tiredness" thing is a bit hard to swallow in comparison.
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3613 on: March 24, 2012, 09:14:27 pm »
Sometimes you cant defend the indefensible, tell it how it is.....

"Simply not good enough for Liverpool Football Club" would of been a more accurate answer

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3614 on: March 24, 2012, 09:15:40 pm »
Doffs cap to VBG.

We looked knackered today, we looked knackered at the end of each half on Wednesday.  That's not an excuse it is a statement of fact that should have been obvious to anyone who saw the games.

That does not, of course, absolve the management team of blame.  After all it is their job to ensure that the players get through the season and are in the correct condition for each game. 
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3615 on: March 24, 2012, 09:16:54 pm »
The only problem i had with the players being tired thing is that we had others that could have been used in their places. Obviously im not saying the whole starting 11 should have been changed but the injuries aren't that bad that we couldnt change say 3 or 4 players out due to fatigue and bring in players that aren't a significant dip in quality.

Aurelio
Shelvey
Carroll
Maxi

all could have started in place of others on the field today and i wouldn't have felt any less confident in the starting 11 before the game because theres no real dip in quality from fielding those instead of some of those that started today. I really dont understand it.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3616 on: March 24, 2012, 09:16:56 pm »
Unbelievable that people ae talking about getting rid of Kenny.  Once again we dominate a game in terms of possession and chances created and lose.  What do you expect him to do, put his bloody boots on?
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3617 on: March 24, 2012, 09:22:21 pm »
I'd rather he came out and say it was a totally unexceptable performance. Hes protected those set of players time and time again this season and its not worked. They keep on letting him down.

Some on here are already saying he's lost the dressing room, well that would be one  guaranteed sure fire way of losing it, which would then precipitate JW Henry stepping in and removing Kenny. Is that what you want?

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3618 on: March 24, 2012, 09:24:28 pm »
Some on here are already saying he's lost the dressing room, well that would be one  guaranteed sure fire way of losing it, which would then precipitate JW Henry stepping in and removing Kenny. Is that what you want?

What?

Was that just a load of made up shite from you?

Or is that just your opinion?


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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3619 on: March 24, 2012, 09:26:23 pm »
People on RAWK are saying is the new TRUTH.

What a crock of shite. 
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3620 on: March 24, 2012, 09:32:31 pm »
Doffs cap to VBG.

We looked knackered today, we looked knackered at the end of each half on Wednesday.  That's not an excuse it is a statement of fact that should have been obvious to anyone who saw the games.

That does not, of course, absolve the management team of blame.  After all it is their job to ensure that the players get through the season and are in the correct condition for each game.

Honoured VDM. The season is far from over with big games still to come. Whatever happens in the League Kenny has to keep this squad together and focused for the job in hand namely winning the FA Cup. You can't turn it on like a tap. Therefore to crucify the players in public now will do no good, no good at all.

We are knackered, players and fans, it's been a roller coaster of a season. But there is still the ultimate prize in knock out football to play for. To do that we have to stay up for every game, every single one.
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« Reply #3621 on: March 24, 2012, 09:36:24 pm »
Unbelievable that people ae talking about getting rid of Kenny.  Once again we dominate a game in terms of possession and chances created and lose.  What do you expect him to do, put his bloody boots on?

There's no way we dominated the game. We got passed off the park. I saw it with my own eyes. We were dreadful today and the truth is bar Man City at home in the Cup semi and Arsenal we've been terrible for months.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3622 on: March 24, 2012, 09:36:53 pm »
if players were tired why did we play them today

i have no problems if players were tired but why didnt we rotate the squad more ?

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3623 on: March 24, 2012, 09:37:04 pm »
You do feel he's trying to protect the players right now by playing a softer approach in interviews.  I guess what I don't understand is how the players could be so tired given that this has been a quieter than normal season.  I know we've had some domestic cup runs, but it's not the same as playing 10-20 euro games around the continent.

Regardless of how upset everyone is, we should stick with the manager.  He needs to be given time, just like any manager who has come in to rebuild our side.

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« Reply #3624 on: March 24, 2012, 09:39:40 pm »
He's done the right thing in my opinion. Giving the players a hiding in public would do more harm than good at this point. What exactly is that going to accomplish? If we aren't playing well because players are bereft of confidence (which is the largest problem in my opinion), going to the horrible press and lashing out at them surely won't instill any in them.

We still have a cup to go win.

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« Reply #3625 on: March 24, 2012, 09:39:50 pm »
Kenny stepping aside at the end of THIS season would be awful for the club. The team is not stabilized yet, and we don't really know the full potential of all the new players that we have brought in over the last 14 months. Our manager deserves at least another year.


Kenny Dalglish is a god like figure for me. He has been for most if my life. But it's not working and his reputation is protecting him. Results are not good and there has to be questioning if the transfer policy. Anyone else with these results is gone and we all know that.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3626 on: March 24, 2012, 09:42:46 pm »
if players were tired why did we play them today

i have no problems if players were tired but why didnt we rotate the squad more ?


Hopefully Kenny will have learnt a lesson in the last two games.  It is a squad game now and he probably needs to rotate more. 

Then people will crucify him for keeping changing his team of course ;)
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« Reply #3627 on: March 24, 2012, 09:44:30 pm »
There's no way we dominated the game. We got passed off the park. I saw it with my own eyes. We were dreadful today and the truth is bar Man City at home in the Cup semi and Arsenal we've been terrible for months.

Everton, first half on Wednesady, second half Stoke weren't bad. How many months are you talking about?
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« Reply #3628 on: March 24, 2012, 09:44:45 pm »
Kenny Dalglish is a god like figure for me. He has been for most if my life. But it's not working and his reputation is protecting him. Results are not good and there has to be questioning if the transfer policy. Anyone else with these results is gone and we all know that.

That's not true.  Not after one season.  Not at this club.
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3629 on: March 24, 2012, 09:46:02 pm »
Kenny Dalglish is a god like figure for me. He has been for most if my life. But it's not working and his reputation is protecting him. Results are not good and there has to be questioning if the transfer policy. Anyone else with these results is gone and we all know that.

Can't argue with that. The worrying thing for me is that this looks more like the desperate cluelessness of Hodgson or Houllier's final season than the distinct underachievement of Rafa's final term, and managers rarely come back from that, because there's a gravitas and authority that doesn't quite return.

Kenny needs to turn things around immediately in the league, we need an outstanding winning run. If it's this sort of squalid stuff until the end of the season, there's nothing to suggest it can possibly be otherwise next year, and the owners quite rightly won't tolerate dropping 800k for each place we lose in the league table.
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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3630 on: March 24, 2012, 09:46:44 pm »
Kenny Dalglish is a god like figure for me. He has been for most if my life. But it's not working and his reputation is protecting him. Results are not good and there has to be questioning if the transfer policy. Anyone else with these results is gone and we all know that.

Take it you are to young for Shanks the lean years then?
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« Reply #3631 on: March 24, 2012, 09:46:55 pm »
Kenny Dalglish is a god like figure for me. He has been for most if my life. But it's not working and his reputation is protecting him. Results are not good and there has to be questioning if the transfer policy. Anyone else with these results is gone and we all know that.

Getting rid of Kenny at the end of this season would be even worse than getting rid of Rafa at the end of 2009/10 season. It would send the wrong message about our club to every respectable manger in the world. Kenny must be given the funds to complete this LFC squad over the summer, and have a proper league season next year, without too much attention to the Europa League and the domestic cups, where he can develop younger players. If he manages to get us into the top 4, the investment would be justified. If he fails to do so, he will probably be gone.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3632 on: March 24, 2012, 09:47:05 pm »
Everton, first half on Wednesady, second half Stoke weren't bad. How many months are you talking about?

We were great against Arsenal too.  The problem is, in the players heads, the league season finished with that cruel defeat.  Todays game was end of season nothing to play for fodder.  Which as you mentioned before needs to be addressed because if it continues we will be unable to simply turn it on for the cup games
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« Reply #3633 on: March 24, 2012, 09:54:48 pm »
That's not true.  Not after one season.  Not at this club.

Rubbish it is true in fact someone of recent vintage got half a season.  Roy Evans a long servant got four years at least a season too long. Souness got too long. Sentiment has done for this club. Kenny isn't performing, transfers are questionable at best.

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« Reply #3634 on: March 24, 2012, 09:57:46 pm »
Everton, first half on Wednesady, second half Stoke weren't bad. How many months are you talking about?

Stoke was awful go back and watch it. We were drawn down ti their level. Everton fair enough beyond that I'm struggling to remember. I've blanked out Swansea, Blackburn, Norwich,

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« Reply #3635 on: March 24, 2012, 09:58:27 pm »
Rubbish it is true in fact someone of recent vintage got half a season.  Roy Evans a long servant got four years at least a season too long. Souness got too long. Sentiment has done for this club. Kenny isn't performing, transfers are questionable at best.

No, that is rubbish. We've played some excellent football for the majority of the season. Recent results and performances have been poor but given all the shit we have had to contend with off the pitch I'm not surprised - there has to be a payback somewhere along the line.

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« Reply #3636 on: March 24, 2012, 09:58:30 pm »
Rubbish it is true in fact someone of recent vintage got half a season.  Roy Evans a long servant got four years at least a season too long. Souness got too long. Sentiment has done for this club. Kenny isn't performing, transfers are questionable at best.

In an evening of questionable posters you are the best so far, another comparison to Roy, good nice one, so what are you Jocko a bitter or a manc?
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« Reply #3637 on: March 24, 2012, 09:58:36 pm »
Take it you are to young for Shanks the lean years then?

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« Reply #3638 on: March 24, 2012, 09:59:34 pm »
Rubbish it is true in fact someone of recent vintage got half a season.  Roy Evans a long servant got four years at least a season too long. Souness got too long. Sentiment has done for this club. Kenny isn't performing, transfers are questionable at best.

Well, that definitely isn't true. I agree that we have been inconsistent as hell, but we've had many outstanding performances over the past 14 months. Kenny has been doing reasonably well so far. The real question is, can he do exceptionally well? I don't think that we could have that answer without another season.

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Re: The King's Speech: His conferences and interviews here
« Reply #3639 on: March 24, 2012, 10:01:32 pm »
Actually no unfortunately

what was unfortunate about it ?

We stood by the manager and together and got through it to better times again! That is what this club was built on surely the holy trinity!
Mellowing and Retired, and stayed around long enough to watch the Tories implode