Topic: Champions League 24/25

[Tiz Lad]

Suprised to read that 29/36 participants for the CL are aleady comfirmed

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/028a-1a4c5f292492-f6d3a5ee82bd-1000--2024-25-champions-league-who-has-qualified-directly-for-t/

Pot 1 and 2 are set, so won't be any changes there after qualifiers.

Only changes will be in Pot 3 and 4, 2 from each of the 4 pots. This guy has shown the 7 who he thinks will qualify based on coefficients, so still a long way to decide those 7 tho

https://xcancel.com/FootRankings/status/1801315347104207254

Ones in bold are confirmed entries

[anfieldpurch]

Nailed on we get Feyenoord from Pot 3..

[Levitz]

Only managed Linz on my membership and a spare for Atalanta, will be nice to be back to qualifying again.

[RainbowFlick]

anyone particularly bored and have a list of all the allocations? 

[Tiz Lad]

anyone particularly bored and have a list of all the allocations? 

Yep  I'm really, really bored

[RainbowFlick]

Yep  I'm really, really bored

 

[NickoH]

Just booked my hotel in Munich for the Champions League Final weekend. Not getting carried away, it’s a free cancellation :slight_smile:

[Tiz Lad]

Things starting to line up (although only marginally) for the 7 teams that may come through the play offs and into the group stage

Winners of the 5 ties in the first graphic go to group
Winners of the 2 ties in the second graphic go to group

[disgraced cake]

How are they doing the draw this season. Surely not the same as always now.

[Tiz Lad]

How are they doing the draw this season. Surely not the same as always now.

Basically it's mostly automated. Balls get drawn from Pot 1 then a computer allocates the fixtures and opponents

[gazzam1963]

Just booked my hotel in Munich for the Champions League Final weekend. Not getting carried away, it’s a free cancellation :slight_smile:

Thanks for the reminder just sorted €165 a night right in the centre pay at the hotel free cancellation , no brainer

[PaulKS]

What's the point of still having 4 pots if you just play 2 teams from each anyway? Dont get it

[Tiz Lad]

What's the point of still having 4 pots if you just play 2 teams from each anyway? Dont get it

Because if there were no pots you could draw all big team or all small teams, that's why they're ranked by coefficent into 4 pots

[Craig S]

Because if there were no pots you could draw all big team or all small teams, that's why they're ranked by coefficent into 4 pots

I think he means there is absolutely no benefit to being in pot 1 than in pot 4

[Tiz Lad]

I think he means there is absolutely no benefit to being in pot 1 than in pot 4

Correct but that's not clear from what he said, so you still have to have pots

[Luke 17]

so the old format was 13 games including the final

this format is 15 games* if you finish top 8

and 17 games* if you finish 8th-16th?

have I got that right?


*provided you reach the final

[ABJ]

so the old format was 13 games including the final

this format is 15 games* if you finish top 8

and 17 games* if you finish 8th-16th?

have I got that right?


*provided you reach the final

9th to 24th = 17 games.

Yes, you can finish 24th out of 36 teams and still win it. Don’t forget though that as per UEFA, it’s all for the fans, nothing else, definitely not the money.

[DanK1456]

9th to 24th = 17 games.

Yes, you can finish 24th out of 36 teams and still win it. Don’t forget though that as per UEFA, it’s all for the fans, nothing else, definitely not the money.

More games=more entertainment. They’re so nice sorting that out for us

[RainbowFlick]

More games=more entertainment. They’re so nice sorting that out for us

also higher likelihood of a lot of dross being played, because players are knackered.

love how Gary Neville incited a riot about the super league but not this new format (which originally also included an 'auto' qualification for high coefficients).

[tbonejones]

17 games?!! Holiday entitlement isn’t going to suffice.

[Tiz Lad]

17 games?!! Holiday entitlement isn’t going to suffice.

Potentially 9 aways including final in one season, all for the fans UEFA

[Jm55]

Potentially 9 aways including final in one season, all for the fans UEFA

On the positive note the increased number of aways combined with the fact that it's difficult to retain the credit unless you actually attend might open a window of opportunity for others to get on the away ladder.

[Alf]

One good thing is a European away in January.

[RainbowFlick]

On the positive note the increased number of aways combined with the fact that it's difficult to retain the credit unless you actually attend might open a window of opportunity for others to get on the away ladder.

if you can keep allocating to other people, i think people will always find a way

dependent on fixtures, if we were to make the final they might have to make criteria all homes + at least two aways for a guaranteed ticket now

[Jm55]

if you can keep allocating to other people, i think people will always find a way

dependent on fixtures, if we were to make the final they might have to make criteria all homes + at least two aways for a guaranteed ticket now

Oh people will 100% find a way, the key is less people doing so (Napoli for example went to all members a couple seasons ago).

[anfieldpurch]

On the positive note the increased number of aways combined with the fact that it's difficult to retain the credit unless you actually attend might open a window of opportunity for others to get on the away ladder.

Have they changed something for the upcoming season or can you still just put somebody else details in and they go?

[Jm55]

Have they changed something for the upcoming season or can you still just put somebody else details in and they go?

No they haven't changed anything but the point is its harder than it used to be as the ticket can only be used by that person and if it doesn't scan you won't get the credit.

If it's somewhere like, for example, Napoli, then you can't just buy the ticket and not go as people used to do, or you can but you'll risk not getting the credit.

[PaulKS]

I think he means there is absolutely no benefit to being in pot 1 than in pot 4

Yeah sorry this is what I meant

So there is no benefit it seems

[Tiz Lad]

So it's down to the play offs now. winners of thes ties go into the group stages

[disgraced cake]

So it's down to the play offs now. winners of thes ties go into the group stages

That is a very boring set of fixtures IMO

[Tiz Lad]

That is a very boring set of fixtures IMO

Correct and a lot of small allocations

[kalle-anka]

Will we know all fixture dates straight after the draw or will it be the normal a few hours wait for clubs to make arrangements?

[Tiz Lad]

Will we know all fixture dates straight after the draw or will it be the normal a few hours wait for clubs to make arrangements?

Fixture Dates not known until Saturday

https://www.uefa.com/news-media/news/028f-1b7f80216368-4c26e95cc15b-1000--uefa-club-competitions-2024-25-onwards-new-league-phase-/

[CornerTakenQuickly]

How do we think criteria will work this season? I've put my guess, but probably wrong. My logic is I've gone back to the start of the season with the last allocation of that size, but not sure if they will do that?

Guaranteed criteria by allocation (rough):

>3800: 2 since Napoli 2018
3400-3800: 3 since Napoli 2018
3000-3400: 2 since Napoli 2019
2800-3000: 2 since Napoli 2022
2750-2800: 3 since Napoli 2022
1900-2750: 4 since Napoli 2022
1300-1900: 5 since Napoli 2022
1100-1300: 2-4 since LASK 2023
750-1100: 5 since LASK 2023

[Tiz Lad]

How do we think criteria will work this season? I've put my guess, but probably wrong. My logic is I've gone back to the start of the season with the last allocation of that size, but not sure if they will do that?

Guaranteed criteria by allocation (rough):

>3800: 2 since Napoli 2018
3400-3800: 3 since Napoli 2018
3000-3400: 2 since Napoli 2019
2800-3000: 2 since Napoli 2022
2750-2800: 3 since Napoli 2022
1900-2750: 4 since Napoli 2022
1300-1900: 5 since Napoli 2022
1100-1300: 2-4 since LASK 2023
800-1100: 5 since LASK 2023

Atalanta was 750

[ABJ]

Definitely looks like it will be just the dates announced on the Saturday which will be a bit of a godsend as will only have 4 trips to research rather than 8!

https://xcancel.com/centregoals/status/1825902792365474297?s=48&t=uqJ7Nw_B-l5w09Q9lS1f1w

[DangerScouse]

Fixture Dates not known until Saturday

https://www.uefa.com/news-media/news/028f-1b7f80216368-4c26e95cc15b-1000--uefa-club-competitions-2024-25-onwards-new-league-phase-/

Fucking joke the Bournemouth date can be changed 3 weeks before the current scheduled date.

[ABJ]

Oh and it looks like UEFA have clearly made a uturn very recently as apparently you now can’t face a team from the same country in the groups whereas up until very recently, countries with 4 or 5 entrants could face another team from the same country…literally making it up as they go along 

[ABJ]

Fucking joke the Bournemouth date can be changed 3 weeks before the current scheduled date.

Yep, which made it all the more farcical that the PL never actually came out and said that when they announced the September TV games over 6 weeks ago as I told a fair few that understandably hadn’t realised.

No surprises that UEFA are just like the PL in that they give zero fucks for the match going supporters.

[Tiz Lad]

So shocked how there has been so little comment about an automated draw for virtually all the matches, with UEFA claiming the software will be completely random

It's so open to question how it works, and possible fixing

Can almost guarantee that UEFA's software algorithms will ensure that Madrid and City get the 8 most favourable matches possible