Topic: The Transfer committee - It's time to talk about this

[walshys_mullet]

It's time to discuss this. Looking at the squad tonight it looks totally unbalanced but worse  of all there's seemingly no rhyme or reason to to our transfer moves.

Just look at this list.

Lambert - can't get a game, unfancied.
Ballotelli - probably won't play again, massive gamble and used in my opinion wrongly.
Markovic - what's his position? What does he do? What's he supposed to bring?
Sakho - unfancied
Borini - unwanted.
Lovren - over priced and a seemingly replacement for Sakho
Can - unproven and not trusted ahead of Gerrard who plays every game at 35 years of age
Sahin - never used, unfancied.

I just don't get it. I'm not sure what the plan is or why these players fall out of favour. The team is stuck in a formation that doesn't suit the personnell, we look slow, devoid of ideas and lack confidence and Brendan himself doesn't know what to do.

Why didn't we in est in some proven quality? Where's Valdes? Where's the strikers we need? Where's the dm we've cried out for for three seasons.

I think the transfer committee whoever the fuck they are have wasted millions of pounds so far and have let the supporters down in a big way.

And this is. I knee jerk after Madrid, they are far far superior. This is something g that's bugged me for a while and that feels like we are reaping what we sow. Poor investment, poor choices, no real return.

In short not good enough really

[Reds Flag]

I'd suggest that right after a match like this is not the best time to discuss anything if you hope to have a remotely reasonable debate...

[indlfc]

Patience!

[Sat1]

We've gone and done it again.

2nd place brings a curse.


It brings false belief, it brings the wrong signings.

We had a chance to go WC. But we didn't, and a lot of fans on here prefered quantity over quality.

We've done it again.

It's laughable our defence is worse than last yr

[L.Suarez]

We've basicaly done a Tottenham.

[Ste08]

There absolutely useless still living off that Coutinho/Sturridge window. Pissed away £115m, top level is all about top quality players they make the difference. 3/4 players for that spend is better is better than 9 or 10 ok players.

[wellred99]

Just out of interest how much did we spend in the summer and how much do you think we still have to spend from the Suarez money? I know what people are going to say. We need 2-3 proven players but we always say that and we never get them in.

[Guz-kop]

It's pretty obvious we're struggling without Suarez (and Sturridge) and we're putting a huge amount of pressure on Henderson, Coutinho and Sterling to produce our attacking identity whilst really struggling for leadship at the back.  I don't think it's the time to criticise everything though. If it's been bugging you for that long the time to talk about it would've been after we'd beaten Newcastle 2-1 end of last season. Instead you've chosen to do it after we've been schooled by the best side in europe and one that beat Bayern Munich last year 4-0 way from home.

[TSC]

There's a debate to be had re this but as someone posted maybe not tonight as it'll be full of one line frustrated posts.

[JackWard33]

The time to talk about this is after a 3-0 home loss against the european champions... oh and by the way it's October and we're 2 months into the season... but yeah this is the time to talk about the transfer committee

[Shaved Crossbar]

The original post was probably typed before the 90 were up haha

[Adeemo]

We've sold the 3rd best player in the world, spent well over £100million and not brought in a single world class player.

[walshys_mullet]

There's nothing wrong with bringing this up and it's not about patience, it's about smart moves and a plan moving forward we don't look like we've done that.

[Fromola]

This committee clearly doesn't work, but it's not the committee who set us up defensively, neglect the basics and ignore defensive midfielders.

Whoever scouted Mignolet should be out of a job because he's the opposite to what Rodgers asked for, so i'd have sympathy for the manager there getting let down by the scouts.

Balotelli was a panic buy all round.

The Sakho situation is ridiculous and led to Rodgers going all out for Lovren who is making things worse.

There's nobody at the club who can think strategically with transfers. We're reactive not proactive.

[bird_lfc]

This really is nothing new. We've been making notoriously bad transfers for years, with the occasional gem being brought. We then have the cheek to moan about the likes of City and Chelsea spending as much as they do.

Let's be honest for the amount we've spent over the years we really should be in a better position. And this is no knee jerk.

[tax_man]

Seem to remember the Summer Transfer Forum being full of people praising the latest window. So I'm not sure about getting the pitch forks out just yet.

Balotelli and Lambert to replace Suarez was a huge mistake. Other than that though I'm ok with it. Lot of young players who will improve. Lallana has been good. Lovren isn't a bad player, we just have a coach who for better or worse doesn't seem to know how to instruct defenders.

[Guz-kop]

There's nothing wrong with bringing this up and it's not about patience, it's about smart moves and a plan moving forward we don't look like we've done that.

Actually it's all about patience and having the belief in the team (on and off the pitch) that got us to 2nd place last season and has improved the team every six month block he's beenhere.

It's now November and most of you want to throw them under the bus.

Not for me soz

[DangerScouse]

There's nothing wrong with bringing this up and it's not about patience, it's about smart moves and a plan moving forward we don't look like we've done that.

Spot on WM.

[walshys_mullet]

I've asked a question. What are these players bringing to the team? Why are they unfancied and unused?

[nutmeg94]

I could see this being locked but for what it's worth let's not completely write off Balotelli until he's played alongside Sturridge in a front two, eh? He obviously has talent, enough to succeed here if used correctly imo

[paddysour]

Suarez scored the most goals in Europe last season. We replaced him with big money signings Balotelli, Lallana, and Markovic. None of which are goal scorers. Now we're struggling to score goals, mad that.

[Brentieke]

I've bored everyone senseless talking about this for weeks. I'll leave it tonight, Walshy mate.

[paddysour]

Seem to remember the Summer Transfer Forum being full of people praising the latest window. So I'm not sure about getting the pitch forks out just yet.

I remember a lot of people having concerns, but being shouted down.

[QC]

I remember a lot of people having concerns, but being shouted down.

Replacing Suarez's goals with all these different players was a particularly grating mantra.

[Macphisto80]

The thing that really puzzles me is why get rid of a player like Agger and replace him with Lovren, who for all intents and purposes, doesn't look half the player Agger is? Then there was the obvious and blatant problems we had with our central midfield last season, particularly in the defensive side of it. Two transfer windows in, and we're still seeing the same problems there. It's crazy.

[Chris~]

The committee hadn't been set up when Borini and Sahin came in. Can was injured in between the International breaks as well, so probably why he's not played much. Lambert's played about as much as you'd expect for a third choice striker as well.

Lallana, Moreno and Manquillo have all been good, Origi, Markovic and Can clearly all bought with not just this season in mind as well.

Also think it's quite clear we want to go after quite a few u23 players and hope that they develop under us, knowing we can't go out and buy a ready made Yaya Toure or Fabregas for whatever reason.

[vagabond]

Funny list. Where are all the successes and why aren't they being talked about if you really want a fair appraisal?

[Guz-kop]

Here we go panic panic wah wah.

Liverpool fans eh?

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[Mark Walters]

Borini and Sahin were bought and loaned, respectively before the transfer committee were in place.

[Libertine]

We need to either bin the committee and let the manager get the players he wants or get a manager who's happy to work with the players the committee gets. Right now, we're just pissing money down the drain and making it impossible to get to the next level.

[lastbaron]

Can and Markovic, it's too early to judge. I don't think Sakho is unfancied, i think he will win his place in the first team once he is 100% fit. I can't understand Lovren yet, he has to cope with players easily strolling through our midfield, but truth is his positioning isn't very good. Lambert is adequate for a backup striker. Balotelli is a signing that infuriated me,  i think he is not good enough even for a mid-table Greek league side.

[The G in Gerrard]

There's nothing wrong with bringing this up and it's not about patience, it's about smart moves and a plan moving forward we don't look like we've done that.

Least we aren't the Mancs or Arsenal though eh.

Btw I don't see anything wrong with the Moreno, Markovic or Can purchases as well as Manquillo deal.

[El Lobo]

The majority were fine, and I maintain that.

I will never, ever understand or comprehend the thinking (or quite clearly, lack of) that suggested it was wise to sign Lambert AND Balotelli, and no back up for Sturridge. Someone should be sacked for that. It has been pretty clear from before he signed that Rodgers didn't remotely fancy him.

Lovren isn't shite by any stretch, the problem right now is tactical and coaching.

It's not a clusterfuck. Most of the signings make sense. Manquillo and Moreno made sense. Lovren made sense. Can made sense. Lallana and Markovic made sense. Lambert sort of made sense. Balotelli, wasn't even close. And it's dismantled everything we've built.

[anfieldforever2013]

I said at the close of the transfer window it was a bit of a disappointment for me. There were two priorities; replacing Luis Suarez's goals and sorting out the defence.

I was adamant that the club should have used the CL to attract established players last summer and concentrate on getting 4-5 quality players rather than trying to add depth. Before the transfer window began, I actually drew up three alternative targets for each position we needed to strengthen (not including the Luis Suarez position) and this is what I came up with:

Right-back (Clyne, Montoya, Danilo)
Left-back (Rodriguez, Moreno, Davies)
Central Defence (Benatia, Caulker, Papadopoulos)
Defensive Midfield (Fernando, Schneiderlin, Song)
Midfield (Kovacic, Rakitic, Strootman)
Winger (Konoplyanka, Shaqiri, Griezmann)
Striker (Martinez, Lacazette, Volland)

Now out of that list, we only got one player I wanted; Alberto Moreno!

[SquirrelandGman]

Relax guys.. its only our "coming 2nd lets buy random players to make us better" season.

We have it every 4-5 years. Normal routine will continue next season.

[McSquared]

Moreno, manquillo, lallana and can look like decent buys. We lacked the quality striker and centre back that we desperately needed though

[johnsmithlfc]

This committee clearly doesn't work, but it's not the committee who set us up defensively, neglect the basics and ignore defensive midfielders.

Whoever scouted Mignolet should be out of a job because he's the opposite to what Rodgers asked for, so i'd have sympathy for the manager there getting let down by the scouts.

Balotelli was a panic buy all round.

The Sakho situation is ridiculous and led to Rodgers going all out for Lovren who is making things worse.

There's nobody at the club who can think strategically with transfers. We're reactive not proactive.

Pretty much... but we also have bought some great young players.

But as others have said, this really isn't the time for this discussion.

[Mingle]

The only phone call should of been to Steve Clarke.... we couldn’t defend last season and its worse now because we can’t out score anyone!

Top 4 is touch and go, but if tonight has taught us anything, its that were not ready for this competition

[Robbo1980]

Have some fucking patience, weve just been beaten by THE best, im confident in the ability of most of them.

If we can retain our CL place for next season thats when the committee need to be signing established players, being prepared to pay big fee & big wages....

[Chris~]

the only phone call should of been to steve Clarke.... we couldnt defend last season and its worse now becuase we cant out score anyone!

So good at coaching defence that West Brom conceded more with him as manager than the season before.