Author Topic: Spyin' Kop: Liverpool v Debrecen - CL (Read 18645 times)

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #40 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:07:56 pm »

Quote from: thredworm on September 14, 2009, 04:43:47 pm

"It would have been better to end up in a group with Barca and Inter or in the one with Real Madrid and AC Milan to see some real giants on Hungarian soil."

"some people would have preferred to be drawn against the European greats and play against the likes of AC Milan, Real Madrid, Barca, etc."

What the fuck? Is that a wind up or what?

Read through the replies

thredworm · « **Reply #41 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:13:03 pm »

Quote from: Canada Loves Anfield on September 14, 2009, 05:07:56 pm

Read through the replies

What, the replies where nobody knows whether it's a wind-up or not? Ok, I'll do that.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #42 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:27:39 pm »

Quote from: thredworm on September 14, 2009, 05:13:03 pm

What, the replies where nobody knows whether it's a wind-up or not? Ok, I'll do that.

No the replies that made it clear they wished they'd got a group with TWO big European teams rather than just the one.

It seems fairly obvious when you read his second sentence and the other answers about the chance to visit Anfield etc etc.

FFS, a little bit of allowance for the fact that this has been translated twice would not go amiss... neither would some decent English reading comprehension to be honest

Corkboy · « **Reply #43 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:31:19 pm »

Quote from: thredworm on September 14, 2009, 05:13:03 pm

What, the replies where nobody knows whether it's a wind-up or not? Ok, I'll do that.

Quote from: thespionkop on September 13, 2009, 10:24:56 pm

some of the answers were a bit tricky to translate because of some cultural differences. e.g. the lad never meant to say liverpool aren't great he simply wished to have had as many "giants" in their group as possible. the more glamourous the better so to say.

tepy75 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:33:01 pm »

alright mates

probably you can imagine how "small" club Debrecen are if you try to compare them to any other CL teams this year.

But this team means a lot to the Debrecenians. They are extremely happy to reach the group stage and want to get experience in this world. As I heard they have bought all of the allocated tickets to Anfield. They can't wait the debut.

Sorry mates but I'm going back to the Catalonian beach now

freedom · « **Reply #45 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:37:06 pm »

Good read that, well in!

thredworm · « **Reply #46 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:37:27 pm »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on September 14, 2009, 05:27:39 pm

No the replies that made it clear they wished they'd got a group with TWO big European teams rather than just the one.

It seems fairly obvious when you read his second sentence and the other answers about the chance to visit Anfield etc etc.

It doesn't seem "obvious" at all. What seems obvious is that they're saying they would have preferred a giant, which they don't see us as.

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #47 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:38:57 pm »

Oh my god, a small club in Hungary dont think we are giants! How will we go on?

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #48 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:40:40 pm »

Quote from: thredworm on September 14, 2009, 05:37:27 pm

It doesn't seem "obvious" at all. What seems obvious is that they're saying they would have preferred a giant, which they don't see us as.

It's Fiorentina and Lyon they don't see as Giants.

They're made up to be playing us and a trip to Anfield, having little or no expectation of getting any points out of it.

thredworm · « **Reply #49 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:40:55 pm »

Quote from: Canada Loves Anfield on September 14, 2009, 05:38:57 pm

Oh my god, a small club in Hungary dont think we are giants! How will we go on?

Someone will be along shortly to laugh at that. Maybe tell you how awesome you are or something.

tepy75 · « **Reply #50 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:44:59 pm »

Quote from: Barney_Rubble on September 13, 2009, 07:41:29 pm

I've only posted it as tepy has now gone on holiday.

Thanks Barney for your help

tepy75 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:46:09 pm »

And many thanks to thespionkop for the really hard translating work and cooperation.

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #52 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:47:28 pm »

Quote from: thredworm on September 14, 2009, 05:40:55 pm

Someone will be along shortly to laugh at that. Maybe tell you how awesome you are or something.

Settle down

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #53 on:** September 14, 2009, 05:49:41 pm »

Quote from: tepy75 on September 14, 2009, 05:44:59 pm

Thanks Barney for your help

See the trouble you've caused?

Have a good holiday.

rocco · « **Reply #54 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:42:11 pm »

str · « **Reply #55 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:56:28 pm »

Great read.

Just to try and clarify the 'giants' part a bit: this comment I first saw in the media by the owner of the club. He said that they were either hoping for a 'weaker' group if that's possible at all to try and get some points from the home games, or at least two 'giants' with a lot of supporters in Hungary who would no doubt help to fill the entire stadium for all matches.

While Liverpool is one of those giants in Europe, and every true football fan remembers at least the comeback in Istanbul, a team like Barca or Milan could attract even more neutrals and more easily to go and watch them play. It's mainly about financial reasons, no disrespect here. I expect a sellout anyways for Debrecen - Liverpool, but not so sure about the other two games.

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #56 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:59:59 pm »

Quote from: str on September 14, 2009, 08:56:28 pm

a team like Barca or Milan could attract even more neutrals and more easily to go and watch them play.

Here we go...

str · « **Reply #57 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:06:32 pm »

Quote from: Canada Loves Anfield on September 14, 2009, 08:59:59 pm

Here we go...

Why are you lot so offended by this? It's not down to who is bigger, who plays better or who has more appeal in general. It's all down to what team gets more hype, what shirts the kids are buying, and who are their idols. Here in Hungary you see more Barca and Milan supporters for dozens of numerous reasons, does it mean they are BIGGER than Liverpool? No.

I don't get this.

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #58 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:09:46 pm »

Quote from: str on September 14, 2009, 09:06:32 pm

Why are you lot so offended by this? It's not down to who is bigger, who plays better or who has more appeal in general. It's all down to what team gets more hype, what shirts the kids are buying, and who are their idols. Here in Hungary you see more Barca and Milan supporters for dozens of numerous reasons, does it mean they are BIGGER than Liverpool? No.

I don't get this.

Im not saying it. Ive been arguing with someone else about it.

I was a bit flabbergasted at first, but then I thought: who gives a shit?

No complaints from me mate, thanks for getting this Spyin Kop done

Uhoh AureliOs · « **Reply #59 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:23:13 pm »

Thanks as always to those who put this together. They seem like a decent bunch, maybe slightly too honest on question 8

Fulla · « **Reply #60 on:** September 14, 2009, 11:15:44 pm »

Quote from: Barney_Rubble on September 13, 2009, 07:38:29 pm

Pisti: Benayoun and Kuyt.

Only seen one LFC game?!

Manila Kop · « **Reply #61 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:07:44 am »

The Italian teams have always been more well-known in Eastern Europe because of their geographical proximity while Real and Barca have both had Eastern European players. Don't see why it's such a big deal, not everyone in the world privileges LFC or English football above all else, despite Sky's best efforts.

DaveCharlie · « **Reply #62 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:25:07 am »

Quote from: Fulla on September 14, 2009, 11:15:44 pm

Only seen one LFC game?!

On current form so far this season, they certainly are the two who I'd most be worried about.

alex. · « **Reply #63 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:25:14 am »

Thanks for 'piecing' this together

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #64 on:** September 15, 2009, 08:45:08 am »

Quote from: Manila Kop on September 15, 2009, 03:07:44 am

The Italian teams have always been more well-known in Eastern Europe because of their geographical proximity while Real and Barca have both had Eastern European players. Don't see why it's such a big deal, not everyone in the world privileges LFC or English football above all else, despite Sky's best efforts.

I can't believe that you dismiss the contribution Istvan Kozma made to spreading the name of Liverpool FC so blithely

[addendum for pedants]
yes yes and our current crop of Hungarian kids

muffins · « **Reply #65 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:43:10 pm »

Good read. Thanks!

Kess73 · « **Reply #66 on:** September 15, 2009, 08:30:19 pm »

Quote from: buchigo! on September 14, 2009, 03:02:58 am

Guess there are a few called Frank Castle needed to balance things out across the forums

rowan_d · « **Reply #67 on:** September 15, 2009, 08:33:27 pm »

Quote from: Party Phil on September 13, 2009, 08:45:11 pm

Who's bigger than Liverpool?

Ryan Giggs

Commie Bobbie · « **Reply #68 on:** September 15, 2009, 08:42:51 pm »

That stadium in Budapest, holds just shy of 70,000. Could be one of Hungarian football's biggest nights in decades.

Skeeve · « **Reply #69 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:15:14 am »

Quote from: buzzing on September 13, 2009, 08:41:21 pm

Fair enough Barca and Real maybe be more glamorous than us....but Inter??

Mentioning Inter is probably partly down to proximity, the only really famous club closer than the ones in Millan would be bayern munich I would guess.

For all those moaning about them not thinking us a big club, reread it without assuming the worst for once, it isn't from our press.

Also, be honest for a moment and admit that while we are a famous club we are not bigger than either of the pairings Real Madrid/AC Milan or Barca/Inter except to ourselves and its not a shock that a 4th seeded team would rather get beaten by them than a Lyon or Fiorentina.

ben · « **Reply #70 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:22:29 am »

Some of you need to fucking grow up.

Nice read. Showed us plenty of respect and it's nice to hear about a small club doing well in the home nation with some good management.

Fluro Kaz · « **Reply #71 on:** September 16, 2009, 01:32:55 pm »

Quote from: Commie Bobbie on September 15, 2009, 08:42:51 pm

That stadium in Budapest, holds just shy of 70,000. Could be one of Hungarian football's biggest nights in decades.

they said it would be a sell out of 40 thousand?

gnaume · « **Reply #72 on:** September 16, 2009, 02:11:54 pm »

Quote from: Fluro Kaz on September 16, 2009, 01:32:55 pm

they said it would be a sell out of 40 thousand?

they will be reducing the capacity to 40k for Debrecen's Champions League home games due to uefa ruling

Nice read as always, thanks to everyone involved!

Donnacha90 · « **Reply #73 on:** September 16, 2009, 04:32:38 pm »

Haha none of them said they feared Lucas... they are in for a surprise.

Lucas hattrick!!!!

JohnSullie · « **Reply #74 on:** September 16, 2009, 06:17:17 pm »

Good Read

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #75 on:** November 24, 2009, 05:00:24 pm »

Bump. For anyone who missed it the first time round.