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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15680 on: December 30, 2021, 10:25:04 pm »
Leicester v Norwich off as Norwich have injuries and Covid.

Fully expecting Chelsea to request our game is called off.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15681 on: December 30, 2021, 10:58:55 pm »
All Serie A footballers must now get jabbed if they want to play, as the Italian government steps up measures to combat the Covid-19 Omicron variant.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/serie-a-introduces-mandatory-vaccine-requirement-for-players-20211230

No transfers for unvaccinated PL players wanting moves that way.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15682 on: December 30, 2021, 11:04:36 pm »
Leicester v Norwich off as Norwich have injuries and Covid.

Fully expecting Chelsea to request our game is called off.

Norwich have 5 players out with Covid in the first team alone including the likes of Cantwell, Pukki, Krul and Aarons. Chelsea have Werner only i believe.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15683 on: December 30, 2021, 11:14:54 pm »
Covid-19: EFL removes matchday testing for players as eight new year games are postponed

The English Football League has removed the need for clubs to test players for Covid-19 on matchdays in an effort to prevent late postponements.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59830127

That’s incredible.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15684 on: December 31, 2021, 01:01:03 pm »
And another game’s gone, Southampton-Newcastle.

This burying of heads in sand can’t continue, there’s no way all these games are getting rearranged.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15685 on: December 31, 2021, 01:02:48 pm »
And we've got more cases too now.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15686 on: December 31, 2021, 01:30:05 pm »
The league is a farce. Clubs getting games called off because of injuries is going to continue
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15687 on: December 31, 2021, 02:04:34 pm »
The league is a farce. Clubs getting games called off because of injuries is going to continue

It is easy to get round though.

Newcastle basically getting a prolonged rest now.

Be more off this week too.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15688 on: December 31, 2021, 02:21:41 pm »
It is easy to get round though.

Newcastle basically getting a prolonged rest now.

Be more off this week too.

They are postponing their way to the transfer window. Absolute fucking joke.

Newcastle have 48 players in their senior and under 23s and they have a game postponed? Fuck off.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15689 on: December 31, 2021, 02:24:09 pm »
Norwich have 5 players out with Covid in the first team alone including the likes of Cantwell, Pukki, Krul and Aarons. Chelsea have Werner only i believe.

Norwich have 27 players in their first team and another 21 in their under 23s.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15690 on: December 31, 2021, 02:31:05 pm »
The bit I find remarkable is that it is never the injured players who get COVID. You hear figures like 10 injuries and 5 COVID. The clubs that want to call off games hide the identities of those with COVID, so presumably you could have players who are out with both COVID and injury.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15691 on: December 31, 2021, 02:34:18 pm »
This wouldn’t be such a sickener if it wasn’t for our situation last season. Same old story, Klopp’s a whingebag and should just get on with it blah blah blah.

When we were a game away from winning the league it was “cancel it all, lives are more important, typical scousers, they hate the NHS” and now it’s totally different apparently.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15692 on: December 31, 2021, 02:41:09 pm »
They need to sort this for next season. If you have a game postponed you have to play the players that were available at the time. The likes of Newcastle are 100% using it to buy time.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15693 on: December 31, 2021, 02:46:46 pm »
This wouldn’t be such a sickener if it wasn’t for our situation last season. Same old story, Klopp’s a whingebag and should just get on with it blah blah blah.

When we were a game away from winning the league it was “cancel it all, lives are more important, typical scousers, they hate the NHS” and now it’s totally different apparently.
If we were top, we'd be hearing the same thing. I'm just glad that we won another title before this farce.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15694 on: December 31, 2021, 03:13:56 pm »
Joke this, just a farce like last season.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15695 on: December 31, 2021, 04:04:19 pm »
Officially a farce

Only team who can possibly survive it without impacted results out of 92 league clubs is the financially doped Manchester City
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15696 on: December 31, 2021, 05:08:23 pm »
Officially a farce

Only team who can possibly survive it without impacted results out of 92 league clubs is the financially doped Manchester City

At least they were top and likely to win the league anyway with another high 90s points total, although we'd have given them a run for their money in a normal season.

It'd be a sickener if we were top again before all this bollocks started.

Take the cups seriously and hopefully win something, rather than sacrifice them again only to fall short in the league anyway. Although we'll get to the League Cup final and the game will get called off in the morning after Harry Kane sneezed.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15697 on: December 31, 2021, 05:19:54 pm »
What’s the actual protocol with Covid testing ? Assume the PL see the positive PCR results ?

But seems some Clubs have got on with it and others done what they want.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15698 on: December 31, 2021, 05:35:22 pm »
How they are going to put these fixtures in god knows

The call was to postpone January because it’s going into the summer now anywayv
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15699 on: December 31, 2021, 05:46:21 pm »
How they are going to put these fixtures in god knows

The call was to postpone January because it’s going into the summer now anywayv

I said when all this kicked off the other week, that there's no good way around it. You postpone the league for a period and there's nowhere to fit the games in and in a World Cup year extending the season isn't viable. You continue as normal and play whatever side you can put out and you've got teams having to put reserve sides out. At the moment it's the worst of both worlds, half the games are getting called off and the ones that aren't are reduced to farce.

It's not sustainable to keep postponing games, in this ridiculously bloated calendar where even a League Cup semi final couldn't be reduced to one leg.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15700 on: December 31, 2021, 05:47:38 pm »
The call was to postpone January because it’s going into the summer now anywayv
Euro Nations Cup is in June !

not a snowball's chance UEFA would cancel / move it.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15701 on: December 31, 2021, 05:50:14 pm »
Tommy Tuckle is already moaning about their cases and injuries.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15702 on: December 31, 2021, 05:57:16 pm »
Euro Nations Cup is in June !

not a snowball's chance UEFA would cancel / move it.

And not when every other league is carrying on as normal at the moment.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15703 on: December 31, 2021, 05:58:44 pm »
I said when all this kicked off the other week, that there's no good way around it. You postpone the league for a period and there's nowhere to fit the games in and in a World Cup year extending the season isn't viable. You continue as normal and play whatever side you can put out and you've got teams having to put reserve sides out. At the moment it's the worst of both worlds, half the games are getting called off and the ones that aren't are reduced to farce.

It's not sustainable to keep postponing games, in this ridiculously bloated calendar where even a League Cup semi final couldn't be reduced to one leg.



All about money so that is why they kept two legs.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15704 on: December 31, 2021, 05:59:40 pm »
And not when every other league is carrying on as normal at the moment.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15706 on: December 31, 2021, 06:25:51 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/dec/31/newcastle-game-at-southampton-off-amid-covid-and-injuries-in-howes-squad

Saints have lodged a complaint

“There were times where we had nine out – and we played academy players,” the Southampton manager, Ralph Hasenhüttl, said this week. “Injuries are not Covid cases. They [Newcastle] had seven or eight players on the bench during their last game. They should still have 13 players plus one [goalkeeper].” Clubs must declare which “appropriately experienced” under-21 players are available.

Ralph is spot on.

this is why this is an utter farce, no transparency, as Kloppo said weeks ago, but hey, he’s just a whinger  ::)

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« Reply #15707 on: December 31, 2021, 06:28:23 pm »
“There were times where we had nine out – and we played academy players,” the Southampton manager, Ralph Hasenhüttl, said this week. “Injuries are not Covid cases. They [Newcastle] had seven or eight players on the bench during their last game. They should still have 13 players plus one [goalkeeper].” Clubs must declare which “appropriately experienced” under-21 players are available.

Ralph is spot on.

this is why this is an utter farce, no transparency, as Kloppo said weeks ago, but hey, he’s just a whinger  ::)

Never been any transparency with it.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15708 on: December 31, 2021, 07:03:52 pm »
“There were times where we had nine out – and we played academy players,” the Southampton manager, Ralph Hasenhüttl, said this week. “Injuries are not Covid cases. They [Newcastle] had seven or eight players on the bench during their last game. They should still have 13 players plus one [goalkeeper].” Clubs must declare which “appropriately experienced” under-21 players are available.

Ralph is spot on.

this is why this is an utter farce, no transparency, as Kloppo said weeks ago, but hey, he’s just a whinger  ::)
English managers are less outspoken than the Europeans.  assholes.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15709 on: December 31, 2021, 07:10:08 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/dec/31/newcastle-game-at-southampton-off-amid-covid-and-injuries-in-howes-squad

Saints have lodged a complaint

It was obvious what Newcastle were going to do when Saint Maxim and Wilson went off injured against The Mancs (their best players).

Everton probably accepted it because of their own injury and illness issues and Rafa wouldn't have wanted to kick off at his old club either. Southampton aren't having it.
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« Reply #15710 on: December 31, 2021, 07:29:45 pm »
It was obvious what Newcastle were going to do when Saint Maxim and Wilson went off injured against The Mancs (their best players).

Everton probably accepted it because of their own injury and illness issues and Rafa wouldn't have wanted to kick off at his old club either. Southampton aren't having it.

It’s right though.

But it’s open to abuse. Have a few out with Covid then make up injuries.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15711 on: December 31, 2021, 07:43:04 pm »
as of immediately, the League should warn clubs that all claims of player injuries will be subject to audit, and any not substantiated by valid medical records will see the club docked points and fines huge amounts.

ah, fukk it ... what's the point.  nothing will be done.  bastards, every one of them.

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15712 on: December 31, 2021, 08:04:48 pm »
as of immediately, the League should warn clubs that all claims of player injuries will be subject to audit, and any not substantiated by valid medical records will see the club docked points and fines huge amounts.

ah, fukk it ... what's the point.  nothing will be done.  bastards, every one of them.

Clubs can still milk it though. At this time of year a lot of players are carrying knocks and niggling injuries that they'll play through (Vardy for example has just played 2 x 90 minutes against us in a week with a supposed hamstring injury - a player who relies entirely on speed). Now there's the excuse to add them to an injury list to get a game called off and they could justify it medically, even though the player would normally play.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15713 on: December 31, 2021, 08:08:14 pm »
“There were times where we had nine out – and we played academy players,” the Southampton manager, Ralph Hasenhüttl, said this week. “Injuries are not Covid cases. They [Newcastle] had seven or eight players on the bench during their last game. They should still have 13 players plus one [goalkeeper].” Clubs must declare which “appropriately experienced” under-21 players are available.

Ralph is spot on.

this is why this is an utter farce, no transparency, as Kloppo said weeks ago, but hey, he’s just a whinger  ::)


Ralph is indeed spot on... Southampton's injury crisis last season was even worse than ours and they, like us, had to get on with it...just as these arlearse, pisstaking sides should have to
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15714 on: January 1, 2022, 11:06:17 am »
Looking at the Newcastle squad, they seem to have 11 players out from 25. Only FOUR with Covid. Three of the 14 available are GKs, so they don't have 13 available outfield players. However, a quick look at their u23 squad reveal that at least 4 players have some sort of experience from senior football this season or last. They also have quite a few players, like Matty Longstaff out on loan.

You could say that it's not obvious that they're stretching the rules to get the games postponed, but then again it is certainly not obvious that they're not. (And thinking of Newcastles specific situation with the Saudis and the transfer window I know which option I'd personally bet on)
To me this shows one of the main problems with the whole situation; the lack of transparency and oversight. After all postponing one PL game directly affects 50-100.000 people (fans etc), the tv networks, sponsors, the competition etc... They all have the right to know. At the very least the PL, when publishing the decision to postpone should publish the clubs full senior and elegible U21/23 squad with a list of who's unavailable. Privacy laws might prohibit naming the reasons for the individual players absence, but they should at least publish the number of covid cases and also the number of vaccinated/unvaccinated amongst them. Since there might also be other considerations taken into the decision they should also explicitly publish these considerations for each individual postponement.
To not do this is not only disrespectful of the people affected by it, but also opens up for a lack of trust, opens up the possibility of corruption and may potentially harm the integrity of the competition. Even if it won't harm the integrity, the mere POSSIBILITY of that happening is very harmful and unacceptable. To use a term that the PL/FA like to throw around for fun; it brings the game into disrepute. Now... what should be the punishment for that?

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15715 on: January 1, 2022, 11:11:44 am »
Looking at the Newcastle squad, they seem to have 11 players out from 25. Only FOUR with Covid. Three of the 14 available are GKs, so they don't have 13 available outfield players. However, a quick look at their u23 squad reveal that at least 4 players have some sort of experience from senior football this season or last. They also have quite a few players, like Matty Longstaff out on loan.

You could say that it's not obvious that they're stretching the rules to get the games postponed, but then again it is certainly not obvious that they're not. (And thinking of Newcastles specific situation with the Saudis and the transfer window I know which option I'd personally bet on)
To me this shows one of the main problems with the whole situation; the lack of transparency and oversight. After all postponing one PL game directly affects 50-100.000 people (fans etc), the tv networks, sponsors, the competition etc... They all have the right to know. At the very least the PL, when publishing the decision to postpone should publish the clubs full senior and elegible U21/23 squad with a list of who's unavailable. Privacy laws might prohibit naming the reasons for the individual players absence, but they should at least publish the number of covid cases and also the number of vaccinated/unvaccinated amongst them. Since there might also be other considerations taken into the decision they should also explicitly publish these considerations for each individual postponement.
To not do this is not only disrespectful of the people affected by it, but also opens up for a lack of trust, opens up the possibility of corruption and may potentially harm the integrity of the competition. Even if it won't harm the integrity, the mere POSSIBILITY of that happening is very harmful and unacceptable. To use a term that the PL/FA like to throw around for fun; it brings the game into disrepute. Now... what should be the punishment for that?

They were always going to chance their arm after their best two players went off injured in their last game. It seems to be pot luck what the PL allow.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15716 on: January 1, 2022, 11:21:20 am »
They were always going to chance their arm after their best two players went off injured in their last game. It seems to be pot luck what the PL allow.

And that is the problem, with clear guidelines and transparency there would be accountability and everyone would know. Now, yeah...might be "pot luck", might also be someone in the PL going on an all inclusive holiday to a 5 star resort, or someone just happens to be a NUFC supporter or the PL wanting to give them an extra chance of staying in the league since the Saudi's will "increase brand value". There's just no way of knowing...

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15717 on: January 1, 2022, 02:10:31 pm »
Kloppo getting a positive covid test is what is going to push me over the edge.

What an absolute shit show this all is, and the PL with their heads in the cloud letting teams do what they want and game the system, and trying to carry on going as per usual ::)

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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15718 on: January 1, 2022, 02:12:11 pm »
Don’t worry, things will get even better next week, when the Premier League players have to play against teams that don’t have to test the day of a game.

Farce, all of it.
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Re: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...
« Reply #15719 on: January 2, 2022, 12:31:23 am »
Should be able to refuse to play them, or they should have to have tests if the PL club wants them to. Ridiculous extra risk our players are being made to go through.
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