Author Topic: MATCH PREVIEW - Atalanta v Liverpool - Europa League, Thurs 18 April @ 8pm (Read 15723 times)

1892tillforever · « **Reply #160 on:** April 18, 2024, 10:54:57 am »

Quote from: spider-neil on April 18, 2024, 09:01:28 am

Just put in a good performance. What happens beyond that, happens. A glorious defeat will be better than going out with a whimper.

Exactly this. As long as we give it a proper go, the players can hopefully take some confidence into the weekend. Start with determination and belief and take it from there.

Worth noting that they have conceded two goals in a five-minute spell on three occasions in their last 5 Serie A matches, including at the weekend. So if we can get the first, there's a chance of a second following not long after, and that would really make things interesting.

naka · « **Reply #161 on:** April 18, 2024, 10:59:12 am »

Quote from: JRed on April 18, 2024, 10:07:21 am

I’ve got a feeling we’re going through. The players should feel thoroughly embarrassed by the first leg and be out for revenge. 5-1 to the mighty reds!

Confident for this
4-0

VVM · « **Reply #162 on:** April 18, 2024, 10:59:48 am »

Fancy Nunez to do something of note, either a hat trick or break his own record for hitting the post. No in between.

macmanamanaman · « **Reply #163 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:14:33 am »

Quote from: VVM on April 18, 2024, 10:59:48 am

Fancy Nunez to do something of note, either a hat trick or break his own record for hitting the post. No in between.

The goal is in between the posts.
Go Darwin!

NarutoReds · « **Reply #164 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:17:54 am »

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Davidbowie · « **Reply #165 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:21:12 am »

Personally, I can't see a comeback happening. Italian teams are known for their defensive qualities, and especially at home, they can sit in and look to hit us on the counter - and we have looked extremely susceptible to counter attacks all season.

United did it in the 4-3 - and many others besides.

All in for the PL title from tomorrow.

NarutoReds · « **Reply #166 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:28:53 am »

Quote from: Davidbowie on April 18, 2024, 11:21:12 am

Personally, I can't see a comeback happening. Italian teams are known for their defensive qualities, and especially at home, they can sit in and look to hit us on the counter - and we have looked extremely susceptible to counter attacks all season.

United did it in the 4-3 - and many others besides.

All in for the PL title from tomorrow.

With the full of respect, mate... We can't have that defeatist mentality, let alone our players. Have some belief we are going to win this.

Of course, it's difficult and it's almost impossible.

Win this against Atalanta and I'm going to post the pics of my hanging dick in this thread.

B0151? · « **Reply #167 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:35:25 am »

Atalanta are a team where if they get it wrong they can get terribly exposed - equally as we saw last week, if you get it wrong they can expose you.

Very tall order but sooner or later we are going to smash in a load of the chances we've been missing against someone. Let this be the night. I don't know if I agree with we should go all out even if it means defeat. If we're 1 or 2 ahead at 70 mins, we are the king of late goals and can really apply the pressure with subs etc.

Nice one, Barney lad! · « **Reply #168 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:38:55 am »

Confident for this
4-0

So seven nil?
Are you wearing a wire?

disgraced cake · « **Reply #169 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:47:27 am »

Honestly, being a Liverpool fan is seeing the same team beat you on your own turf by three goals a week ago, unable to keep clean sheets and needing a thousand chances to score one goal, looking like we've ran out of steam for the season ... and still believing we're going to go through

Okay, maybe not everyone does, maybe not many do, but as the days have gone by I've grown in confidence, something still tells me it's our best chance at silverware until the end of the season and that we can go through. I think if we go out tonight the season is basically done, sounds mad being only two points behind with six to play but I don't see City dropping points or Liverpool taking all 18 remaining in the league.

I really think if we score early massive doubt will come into their minds in which they're a bit caught on what to do. Jota pouncing on something from six yards out early. As 0151 alludes to they are the type of side who when it goes wrong, it can go really wrong, see that 5-0 a few years ago. Come on lads, make amends for that shit show last week. Go through tonight and I won't have an ounce of doubt our name will be going on the trophy soon.

Hestoic · « **Reply #170 on:** April 18, 2024, 11:48:52 am »

Jota will get us through, I'm pretty sure about it.

Atalanta have something very precious to protect - an away lead over Liverpool. Their mentality will be tested tonight and that's what will set this game apart.

mkingdon · « **Reply #171 on:** April 18, 2024, 12:23:58 pm »

Atalanta will have thought of little else since the first tie other than.....this is Liverpool. The team most renowned for impossible come backs and European miracles.

Should it start to go wrong for them, their minds will start to play tricks, that feeling of "oh no not us, not with a 3-0 lead", thinking back to Dortmund, Barcelona and all other examples.

Sure we're away from home this time and in stinking form, but the one team you don't want to be trying to closing out a second leg against is Liverpool.

Much relies on us not conceding and certainly not conceding first, but even if we do, I still wouldn't put it past us to score 5.

Miracles don't always happen, but they happen most, it seems for us, and if you're an Atalanta player you are hoping against hope that tonight isn't another.

If we're 1-0 up at half time they will be nervy, any more than that and I'd strongly back us to go through.

Hopefully we can shake off this shitty form of the last week or so and create another legendary night in Europe.

Allison

Trent Konate VVD Robertson

MacAllister

Elliot Dom

Salah Jota Diaz

Nunez to get the 4th coming on as a sub in the 70th.

JP! · « **Reply #172 on:** April 18, 2024, 12:40:57 pm »

Nunez to score 4, get his cock out and scream 'xG that you boring fucking c*nts' into the nearest TV camera.

Accept no substitutes

Clint Eastwood · « **Reply #173 on:** April 18, 2024, 12:55:06 pm »

I like that suggested line up above. Been wondering if Szobo is better off on the left.

Fiasco · « **Reply #174 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:12:24 pm »

Is it the craziest thing in the world to think we could go in at half-time 2-0 up? If so then why can't we do it? Yes, we'll have to be clinical and we will have to cut out conceding silly goals and chances in general but if we start well and get an early goal I am sure they will be more nervous than us. Knowing it is a bit of a free hit might just relax our lads even more and we create plenty of chances and so maybe tonight is when they all go in.

I'm not expecting us to go through as such, I just think we've got a good chance. We can concede 1 I think, I don't see us scoring as many as 5 but we could get 4 if we dominate and that would be extra time. So IMO we've got a little bit of wiggle room, play with freedom, get an early goal or two and then we are right there.

lionel_messias · « **Reply #175 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:13:33 pm »

Quote from: Clint Eastwood on April 18, 2024, 12:55:06 pm

I like that suggested line up above. Been wondering if Szobo is better off on the left.

According to his national team and RBL, he's probably better just off a striker too. Let him get forward and smash shots at them. See what happens, especially if Jota is on hand for the rebounds.

ScubaSteve · « **Reply #176 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:13:43 pm »

Quote from: Clint Eastwood on April 18, 2024, 12:55:06 pm

I like that suggested line up above. Been wondering if Szobo is better off on the left.

Yeah definitely, he’s disappeared lately.

Salah Jota and Diaz is the way…I’ll be disappointed if I see Nunez in the starting XI. I like the guy but we’ll need his pace when the opposition start tiring and likely chasing goals.

I’m getting far too optimistic about this. The harder the fall will be if we don’t qualify

Higgins79 · « **Reply #177 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:20:50 pm »

To be fair, I'm more confident that we can turn this one around than I was that we'd turn the Barca one around. I've just got a feeling that our low point is done and the form will return, and with the exception of the game against us, their form is very scratchy. And, when we are somewhere near our best, we're miles better than anything in their league.

Higgins79 · « **Reply #178 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:24:51 pm »

I'd go with...

Allison
Trent Konate VVD Robertson
MacAllister
Dom Jones
Salah Gakpo Diaz

Draex · « **Reply #179 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:25:34 pm »

Quote from: rossipersempre on April 18, 2024, 09:15:14 am

Overdue another Jota hat-trick, like when we put 5 past them in Bergamo (*albeit in an empty stadium).

https://twitter.com/i/status/1780929273609527807

Yes please.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #180 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:29:08 pm »

Quote from: Davidbowie on April 18, 2024, 11:21:12 am

Personally, I can't see a comeback happening. Italian teams are known for their defensive qualities, and especially at home, they can sit in and look to hit us on the counter - and we have looked extremely susceptible to counter attacks all season.

United did it in the 4-3 - and many others besides.

All in for the PL title from tomorrow.

Yeah, no chance of us coming back from 3-0 down.

I mean, Italians can defend. Remember when we went 3-0 down against AC Milan on 2005, with arguably the best defence in Europe at the time? Djmi Traore in our defence, the tie was over by halftime.

Remember when we were 3-0 down against Barcelona, a side including Messi Suarez, Coutinho, etc.? We might score, but they were bound to get at least one, and with the away goals rule in place at the time, there's no way we were turning that around. We were missing two of our potent forward line as well.

So, yeah. No chance tonight. Might watch Coronation Street instead.

lionel_messias · « **Reply #181 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:30:28 pm »

Quote from: JC the Messiah on April 18, 2024, 01:29:08 pm

Yeah, no chance of us coming back from 3-0 down.

I mean, Italians can defend. Remember when we went 3-0 down against AC Milan on 2005, with arguably the best defence in Europe at the time? Djmi Traore in our defence, the tie was over by halftime.

Remember when we were 3-0 down against Barcelona, a side including Messi Suarez, Coutinho, etc.? We might score, but they were bound to get at least one, and with the away goals rule in place at the time, there's no way we were turning that around. We were missing two of our potent forward line as well.

So, yeah. No chance tonight. Might watch Coronation Street instead.

You're just a naughty boy, you're not the real Messias!
😉

disgraced cake · « **Reply #182 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:31:55 pm »

Quote from: Fiasco on April 18, 2024, 01:12:24 pm

Is it the craziest thing in the world to think we could go in at half-time 2-0 up? If so then why can't we do it? Yes, we'll have to be clinical and we will have to cut out conceding silly goals and chances in general but if we start well and get an early goal I am sure they will be more nervous than us. Knowing it is a bit of a free hit might just relax our lads even more and we create plenty of chances and so maybe tonight is when they all go in.

I'm not expecting us to go through as such, I just think we've got a good chance. We can concede 1 I think, I don't see us scoring as many as 5 but we could get 4 if we dominate and that would be extra time. So IMO we've got a little bit of wiggle room, play with freedom, get an early goal or two and then we are right there.

If we're any scoreline combination of two goals up at half time I'd be gutted if we don't go through. Problem is we've become so adept at conceding first. Get one first fifteen minutes tonight and I think it'll really settle us down and hopefully unsettle them. I think tonight the players will want to remind everyone who Liverpool are and what they're capable of in Europe.

It feels so weird we've even lost a first leg at Anfield by three goals. Can you imagine if we were home tonight and scored early, nobody in that ground would believe we'd be going out.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #183 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:36:00 pm »

The only thing I hope for tonight is that the lads enjoy it - whatever the result - they've all looked stressed, been shouting at each other, angry and not looking happy.

If we get through this tonight and the players are happier then I think that'll help the crowd as well

The pressure is off in the Cup. The pressure is off in the league. Just enjoy the last games of the season.

has gone odd · « **Reply #184 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:40:58 pm »

Always believe we can win. Wouldn't be the weirdest comeback ever if we did but the lads need to be right on it tonight.

Any sort of victory to restore some pride and confidence would do really.

You would suspect, despite being professional footballers, that a couple of their players might, just might, think this tie is done ..

Bread · « **Reply #185 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:42:34 pm »

One last comeback of the Klopp era for old times sake? I expect we'll go hell for leather to try and turn this around; at least I hope we do.

I just want to see a bit of effort; if the deficit is too much to overcome then so be it but I expect them to give it a good go.

... · « **Reply #186 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:43:43 pm »

Quote from: Bread on April 18, 2024, 01:42:34 pm

One last comeback of the Klopp era for old times sake? I expect we'll go hell for leather to try and turn this around; at least I hope we do.

I just want to see a bit of effort; if the deficit is too much to overcome then so be it but I expect them to give it a good go.

Need everyone putting in a shift tonight. Don't leave anything out there.

Samie · « **Reply #187 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:02:27 pm »

I exepect nothing from the tie overall, just win this game. 1-0 will do me.

newterp · « **Reply #188 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:11:29 pm »

Quote from: NarutoReds on April 18, 2024, 11:17:54 am

Thanks?

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #189 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:19:50 pm »

Quote from: Davidbowie on April 18, 2024, 11:21:12 am

Personally, I can't see a comeback happening. Italian teams are known for their defensive qualities, and especially at home, they can sit in and look to hit us on the counter - and we have looked extremely susceptible to counter attacks all season.

United did it in the 4-3 - and many others besides.

All in for the PL title from tomorrow.

Napoli, Inter, AC Milan and Lazio all conceded 3 or more goals in at least 1 CL group game. Napoli and Lazio both conceded 3 in one leg of their last 16 defeats. AC Went on to concede 3 in a game to Rennes in the Europa League.
Atalanta have conceded 3 in 4 league games this season.
There's plenty of games with a side conceding 3/4/5 goals.

We shouldn't be going there waving the white flag off the bus. We should be going there giving it everything we've got to progress against the odds.

TomDcs · « **Reply #190 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:23:51 pm »

Would be great to see a decent performance with us scoring first, and ideally quickly. As others (& Jurgen) have said, see how it goes from there. You never know, and I still think there’s wobbles to be had from City in the league so just getting some belief and moment back would be amazing. Really want to see Klopp’s reign end with us throwing everything at what’s left, even if we come up short, he deserves that.

B0151? · « **Reply #191 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:28:04 pm »

Remember guys, we were only 1 up at half time Vs Barcelona. Hopefully we can start very well and get a goal early, but then we must not force it too much. We go though by having control of game and outclassing them, not chasing it madly imo.

PaleBlueDot · « **Reply #192 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:29:09 pm »

Anyone else think they will look to counter early and try and score? I think they'll set up more defensive but will absolutely be trying to get a goal tonight and I bet they think they can get it.

I really, really hope for an early goal for us inside the first 10 minutes. Will do wonders for us.

Jookie · « **Reply #193 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:54:02 pm »

Think games like this you need to break it down to achievable goals.

Scoring the 1st goal is absolutely crucial and that should be our initial aim.

Being 1-0 up at 70 minutes would be fine.

I’d snap your hand off for us winning 2-0 on 85 minutes.

Don’t need to score 3 in the 1st half and wipe out the deficit. Make sure we are in the game as we enter that last 20 mins is achievable and a good bridgehead for giving ourselves a platform to put Atalanta under pressure.

Gerard00 · « **Reply #194 on:** April 18, 2024, 02:57:55 pm »

Does anyone know if big Div has travelled with the squad?

In all seriousness though they were a very competent outfit and a wiley old manager. Going to be tough but not impossible.

amir87 · « **Reply #195 on:** April 18, 2024, 03:10:30 pm »

The closer it gets to kick off the more confident I am we can do this.

So basically, I’m ready to get hurt all over again.

MNAA · « **Reply #196 on:** April 18, 2024, 03:24:39 pm »

If we are going out, I want us to go out in a blaze of glory. Klopp to play 4-2-4 right from the off. Gakpo left, Eliott right, Salah and Jota in the middle. Mac and Dom as midfield 2. Trent, Virgil, Quansah, Robbo back 4.

Go at them and just win …

skipper757 · « **Reply #197 on:** April 18, 2024, 03:24:45 pm »

Quote from: Davidbowie on April 18, 2024, 11:21:12 am

Personally, I can't see a comeback happening. Italian teams are known for their defensive qualities, and especially at home, they can sit in and look to hit us on the counter - and we have looked extremely susceptible to counter attacks all season.

United did it in the 4-3 - and many others besides.

All in for the PL title from tomorrow.

Italian sides don’t defend the way they used to. Least of all Atalanta, whose tactics vary from most sides.

We also put 5 past them in Bergamo a few years ago.

If we’re on it, we have a chance. A lot of our problems are self-inflicted (as good as Atalanta are).

mullyred94 · « **Reply #198 on:** April 18, 2024, 03:25:10 pm »

Jota x3 just like last time we played there

was 5-0 wasnt it when we had them in the group stages?

Andy82lfc · « **Reply #199 on:** April 18, 2024, 03:28:53 pm »

Kept thinking for some reason it was 0-4, maybe because it seemed like such a gut punch at the time, but 0-3, I mean even against teams better than Atalanta that's still achievable.

It's the old cliche of if we nick an early goal etc, but even just 3-1 with ten mins left anything can happen when that pressure starts turning.

I think either way will will know fairly quickly how much the team has shaken off the last results and how much they are up for it. If we click and start pelting them from the off I'd be really optimistic we will get over the line.