Topic: Loan Watch 2018-2019

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I've only seen him for the full 90 mins 3 or 4 times this year. But Harry Wilson the one critism I have is he has a tendency to drift in and out of games. He needs to get himself more involved.

I think in a much better team he would be

[Too early for flapjacks?]

Other Derby players seem to be ok. Lampard has talked about Wilson coming in more from the line and getting more involved. Some of the bits I've watched he's probably had the least touches from the attackers. But I do think it's something that can be improved on by watching back games and thinking about his movements. He's good in the decisive moments but he has to improve the rest of his game, including helping out the right back. If he's open minded and intelligent, and has good coaching, he'll be a much better player by May.

[FlashGordon]

Other Derby players seem to be ok. Lampard has talked about Wilson coming in more from the line and getting more involved. Some of the bits I've watched he's probably had the least touches from the attackers. But I do think it's something that can be improved on by watching back games and thinking about his movements. He's good in the decisive moments but he has to improve the rest of his game, including helping out the right back. If he's open minded and intelligent, and has good coaching, he'll be a much better player by May.

Was watching today and he showed for the ball all day in the second half but Bryson? couldn't pick out a pass if his life depended on it.

[Dim Glas]

Another full game played by Marko Grujic today in a 1-1 draw at home vs Werder Bremen. He was a bit of a fouling machine today! But didn't get booked.  Hertha played very well first half, and Grujic is always noticable in that midfield, always showing for the ball. Not his best game in terms of passing (one or two nice ones though), or duels, but he doesn't shirk responsibility for sure and puts the work in each game.

[KingKolo]

Big Herbz likely to be starting for Donny on BBC1 today.

[daggerdoo]

Big Herbz likely to be starting for Donny on BBC1 today.

Just tuned in to it. He's not playing, is he?

[daggerdoo]

My mistake, he is.

[KingKolo]

My mistake, he is.

How'd he look?

[Cu Chulainn]

Ejaria with a vital goal to make it 1-0 for Reading vs Rotherham.

[xbugawugax]

Ejaria with a vital goal to make it 1-0 for Reading vs Rotherham.

game ended 1-1.

really no idea how he is performing but he is getting some game time which is always a good sign

Taiwo Awoniyi doing really well at Royal Mouscron after getting his loan from gent terminated. Scored the only and winning goal. 4 goals in 5 games so far.

[phil236849]

Looks like an assist and penno won by Ryan Kent today

[Bergersrightwingviews]

Other Derby players seem to be ok. Lampard has talked about Wilson coming in more from the line and getting more involved. Some of the bits I've watched he's probably had the least touches from the attackers. But I do think it's something that can be improved on by watching back games and thinking about his movements. He's good in the decisive moments but he has to improve the rest of his game, including helping out the right back. If he's open minded and intelligent, and has good coaching, he'll be a much better player by May.

If off-the-ball movement is something he needs to work on then hard to think of a better teacher than Lampard.

[BarryCrocker]

game ended 1-1.

really no idea how he is performing but he is getting some game time which is always a good sign

Taiwo Awoniyi doing really well at Royal Mouscron after getting his loan from gent terminated. Scored the only and winning goal. 4 goals in 5 games so far.

Awoniyi Scores 6th Goal In 7 Games For Mouscron - By Oluyemi Ogunseyin

Nigerian striker Taiwo Awoniyi netted his sixth goal of the season in seven matches when Royal Excel Mouscron played out a 1-1 draw with Standard Liege in a Belgian league match on Friday, Completesports.com reports.

One of the most in-form strikers on planet earth at this very point, Awoniyi grabbed a goal for Mouscron in the 60th minute to make the scores 1-1.

He has taken the Belgian First Division A by storm ever since he had a re-union with Mouscron in January, having previously left for Genk where he failed to shine.

But since returning to Mouscron last month, Les Hurlus have won six of seven games the 21-year-old has played with the Liverpool loanee directly contributing to 8 goals (6 goals, 2 assists).

https://www.completesports.com/awoniyi-goal-mouscron/

Love the highlighted bit by the slightly biased Nigerian reporter. 

[Tobelius]

Grujic vs Bayern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_TSNc8sEGE

[Dim Glas]

Marko Grujic scores for Hertha BSC, 1-1 so far vs Mainz.

[duvva 💅]

Friend of mine went to Ipswich V Reading yesterday. Was very impressed with Ejaria, fucking awesome were his exact words. Ipswich aren’t up to much these days but said he stood out from both teams.
Can’t remember how old Ejaria is now?

[El Lobo]

How’s Harry Wilson doing?

[Yorkykopite]

How’s Harry Wilson doing?

According to the BBC website he was ill this week so Lampard dropped him to the bench for the Villa game. By half time Villa were winning 4-0, so Wilson was brought on the second half. The score remained 4-0 and Wilson was the best player on the pitch in the last '45.

So, pretty well I think. 

[dudleyred]

He’s dropped off a bit in the games I’ve watched on tv recently but that’s as much down to derby hitting the wall

He always looks lively to me and I think playing with better players will see him step up a level again

He’ll have a huge opportunity precseason as has been said due to the Copa America and African nations Cup

[Chris~]

It's also his first full season playing senior games so a physical drop off wouldn't be a surprise

[soxfan]

Marko Grujic scores for Hertha BSC, 1-1 so far vs Mainz.

Hertha won 2-1. Grujic's tap-in goal is at 0:55.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ARVt3Xr1Rq4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ARVt3Xr1Rq4</a>

Bundesliga nominated Grujic as one of three choices for Rookie of the Month for January. Starts at 0:53.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/1u0jzfywRmo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/1u0jzfywRmo</a>

[Ratboy3G]

Not heard much about Karius recently, anyone on here seen/heard how his loan has been going? Also, will he return here in the summer before his transfer becomes permanent or will he just remain there?

[mrantarctica]

Not heard much about Karius recently, anyone on here seen/heard how his loan has been going? Also, will he return here in the summer before his transfer becomes permanent or will he just remain there?

Has a 2 year loan with Beşiktaş IIRC. Apparently some interest for him to go back to Germany. Can't see him coming back here. We have a world class GK that he won't be able to displace. May need to look for a strong deputy if Mignolet decides to leave though, but I doubt Karius will settle for that.

[dudleyred]

Has a 2 year loan with Beşiktaş IIRC. Apparently some interest for him to go back to Germany. Can't see him coming back here. We have a world class GK that he won't be able to displace. May need to look for a strong deputy if Mignolet decides to leave though, but I doubt Karius will settle for that.

He’s almost sure to go

Think they have to buy if certain criteria met. Was something like European qualification and 60% games played I thought from  memory

[Ratboy3G]

I'd be quite happy to have him here as deputy to Ali when Mignolet leaves, not sure Karius would take that and half of our so called fans would lose their heads if that happened.

[The Naby Keita fan club]

Lallana should have been on loan already, no goals nor assists the last two years. Similar to Markovič, they are two unproductive players. Not even an ice-hockey assist from Adam today, he looks finished (sorry for poor try of irony.)

[Perham]

Lallana should have been on loan already, no goals nor assists the last two years. Similar to Markovič, they are two unproductive players. Not even an ice-hockey assist from Adam today, he looks finished (sorry for poor try of irony.)

Jesus you scared me there

[mwake]

Grujic looking good imagine him and Fabinho together, both tall leggy technical defensive type players.

[Ratboy3G]

Lallana should have been on loan already, no goals nor assists the last two years. Similar to Markovič, they are two unproductive players. Not even an ice-hockey assist from Adam today, he looks finished (sorry for poor try of irony.)

Nice one 😂👍

[proudred]

Awoniyi scored again in 1-1 draw. 7 goals & 2 assists  in 8 games for mouscron.

[dudleyred]

Awoniyi scored again in 1-1 draw. 7 goals & 2 assists  in 8 games for mouscron.

Surprised he didn’t get an international call up - was hotly tipped

Can’t argue with his recent  output that’s for sure

[rocco]

Awoniyi scored again in 1-1 draw. 7 goals & 2 assists  in 8 games for mouscron.

With Genk who are top of the league he didn’t score form Aug to Jan but with a side In the bottom half he is on fire

[dakid]

Not heard much about Karius recently, anyone on here seen/heard how his loan has been going? Also, will he return here in the summer before his transfer becomes permanent or will he just remain there?

It has been going rubbish it seems.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-loanee-loris-karius-slammed-15958869

[phil236849]

Liam Millar scores winner for Killie

[moloch]

It has been going rubbish it seems.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-loanee-loris-karius-slammed-15958869

Looks like the CL final really did his head in. Hopefully he gets some therapy..

[Ratboy3G]

Looks like the CL final really did his head in. Hopefully he gets some therapy..

I don't think any of us on here can begin to understand what he must have been through, it was shameful how a large portion of our fanbase turned their back on him when he needed us. The vitriol and hate he suffered was disgraceful.

[macmanamanaman]

It has been going rubbish it seems.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-loanee-loris-karius-slammed-15958869

"...manager Gunes publicly criticised Karius for the first time after the final whistle as he admitted the loan move was not working out and he would have dropped the German in favour of Tolga Zengin if the 35-year-old had been available."


Ouch.


Either that lights a fire under Karius or just deepens the funk he is in.

Before the CL final, he was fine. Better than Simon for us. Even during the final, very composed and solid until that inexplicable underarm pass that led to the calamotous 1st goal. For some lucky goalie somewhere, a kind referee may have chalked that off , and all would have been fine. Or for some lucky goalie somewhere, Benzema would nt have been canny or lucky enough to do things exactly right to find the back of the net. Or for some luvky goalie, goal number two never happens to be the best overhead kick in the history of the CL....
But...Fine margins.
And then goal number 3 was just....head gone and total shambles.

But fine margins.
If Karius can get his head right, there is a good keeper in there.

[Ratboy3G]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-support-loris-karius-Beşiktaş-15967612
poor fella, really hope it gets sorted and he either comes back here in the summer or goes elsewhere

[Ratboy3G]

"Even during the final, very composed and solid until that inexplicable underarm pass that led to the calamotous 1st goal. For some lucky goalie somewhere, a kind referee may have chalked that off , and all would have been fine. Or for some lucky goalie somewhere, Benzema would nt have been canny or lucky enough to do things exactly right to find the back of the net. Or for some luvky goalie, goal number two never happens to be the best overhead kick in the history of the CL....
But...Fine margins.
And then goal number 3 was just....head gone and total shambles.

The concussion probably didn't help!!!

[mrantarctica]

It has been going rubbish it seems.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-loanee-loris-karius-slammed-15958869

His head having gone over there might be due to the fact he hasn't been paid in 4 months or so. While these boys are paid well, they still need to be paid. If you are working and not getting paid then naturally your motivation to keep working falls and your mind wanders.

He made a very high profile error. To recover from such a mistake you need a couple of quiet seasons where you just go about your business quietly and confidently and build your reputation back up again. I was surprised when he went to Turkey because the league isn't very high quality, and the fans there do turn on their players at times. Would have been much better if he could have returned to Germany.