Are u suggesting wilshere is far superior to Lucas or vice versa ?
Wilshere is currently superior to Lucas. And he will be far superior in the next few seasons. Facht.
@ Veinticinco de Mayo The way you talk to other users on this forum is something you should be ashamed of as someone who is suppose to be representing the site.
Pele.
I think Jookie might just be the best fisherman on this thread.
Firstly Lucas and Wilshere play in totally different position . Lucas has shone in big games and dominated United CHelsea and City midfield whereas Wilshere in pretty invisible in most games . There is nothing to suggest that Wilshere is better player than Lucas apart from media hype . If based on performances Lucas is far superior to Wilshere this season . WHat exactly Wilshere great at ?He isnt a great tackler ; not a great passer ; neither good at scoring goal ; nor at creating chances . He is currently a good english prospect hyped up by english media as usual . He is just the flavour of month this season with media like Milner was last year .
Lucas hasn't shone in any game. Lucas's style of play isn't to shine, its to allow others to shine by doing his job well with minimum fuss. That is why the media haven't cottoned on to the fact that he is class. It doesn't matter if we are playing Chelsea or a non league team, he simply does his job flawlessly. Long may this continue.
I think Wilshere is very, very good already, and against Barcelona at the Emirates, he stood out as the best midfielder on the pitch. That was a pretty big game. Obviously he isn't the finished article yet, but he's only 19 years old, and have already played 50 league games plus a few more in Europe and with the full national squad. If he were our own, we'd praise him to the hilt. Atleast I would love to have him, playing alongside Lucas and Gerrard.
He was poor in the 1st half and was good in the second half but then in the nou camp he was non - existent . He is a good player but has achieved nothing to say he deserves the hype .I am asking this again why is he such a great midfielder as already hyped by mediaHe isnt a great tackler ; not a great passer ; neither good at scoring goal ; nor at creating chances . So what exactly is he great at ?Also as for him playing alongside Lucas and Gerrard for us where exactly would he play . He cant play in CM as Lucas and Gerrard are already there and he isnt creative enough to play as AM . Even Wenger trusts Ramsey and Nasri ahead of Whilshere in AM .
Of course he hasn't achieved anything yet, but then again not many 19 year olds have. He may very well be overrated by the english media - they go overboard all the time, so that's not anything new though - but it's clear to see his potential anyway. Great awareness, very good vision, calm on the ball, is great at taking the ball forward into space, brings other into the game and he works hard. Not an outstanding player just yet, and he can improve more or less every aspect of his game, but for someone who apparently can't create according to you, he's got 9 assists in 45 games. How many have Gerrard, Spearing, Meireles and Lucas got this season?I'd play him in a midfield three slightly infront of Lucas, and behind Gerrard. Like he plays at Arsenal (but swap Lucas for Song, and Gerrard for Fabregas). He'd be on the bench if we go for a 4-4-2 and Gerrard is fit, but even now I'd rather have him next to Lucas than both Meireles and Spearing.
Seriously are u suggesting DM cant shine in games. DO u really think scoring goals is the only way to shine . Our midfield absolutely dominated Chelsea home and away United at home and City at home . Lucas was the best midfielder on display in all those games .
What the hell is a DM?
Well thats what the article is about .That settles the argument then
Its staggering how some of our players are underrated by our own fans .
Fair enough. I missed the words "by the english media" in the name of thread though...And I find it silly how some never credits or see the potential in other teams players. I haven't said that Meireles or Spearing are poor players, but there are plenty of midfielders I'd have above them. Wilshere being one.
We better agree to disagree then
spearing i can kinda understand but if he keeps playing the way his form is at the min then spearing will be much better than wilshire
What? Lucas was shit during his early days at Liverpool but now is a decent player doing his job as expected of him. Wilshere is phenomenal considering his age and this is his first full season here. God knows how good he's going to be in a few years. Better than Lucas? Bet your laughing fucking ass he will be. I'm not saying Lucas is a bad player. I'm just saying there's no way Wilshere is overrated. 19 and arguably a sure starter for England? He ain't shite bro.
The fact that you think Lucas was that bad to start with tells me everything I need to know. I'm not saying Wilshire is a bad player but the idea that he is better than Lucas is now or will be a much better player than him is frankly nonsense.
You think so? Hope you're right, but I just don't see it myself. Spearing has played well this last month, but is 3 years older (but has less experience at the highest level), and doesn't come close to Wilshere's potential in my opinion. I honestly can't think of a single thing he's got, or does better, than Wilshere at the moment.
i wouldnt put wilshire above meireles.. hes proven himself in more than one league, wilshere hasnt overly proven himself in the EPL, spearing i can kinda understand but if he keeps playing the way his form is at the min then spearing will be much better than wilshire
De Rossi, Ribery, Van Der Vaart, Gareth fucking Barry (woeful player), Milner, Dzeko, Defoe, Dawson, Terry, Lampard, Gilardino, Chiellini, Dsudszak (sp?) Bale.Never really rated any of the above and nothing i've seen other than glimpses now and again makes me think they're top top players. Never seen Bale really punish any defender who can actually defend. Only game that sticks out is Inter for him and he is sooooo over-rated at the moment because of this.
Wilshire is a more naturally gifted player than Lucas and in all likelihood will eventually turn out to be a better player than Lucas.Good God. Spearing will never be better than Wilshire. He may run a little more than him, but that's the only thing he may possibly have Wilshire.
Who are the most overrated footballers? Personally I think Carrick is the most overrated footballer followed closely by Chiellini.
19 goals and 8 assists in 30 games this season.......surely not good enough to be a main striker He is a fantastic footballer when fit
Where to begin! lolGareth Barry, Milner, Arshavin, Carrick, Anderson, Walcott, Defoe, Fellaini, Lescott, Lampard, Van Der SarTorres, David Villa, Kaka- Use to be great.
Google messi topless on holiday. Now look at david silva, villa, iniesta, xavi, they have the upper bodies of little boys.
Also lescott, forehead like a Klingon having a shit and not very good at defending.
How come Aquilani wasn't in the squad today?
Solving the drought in East Africa with his fancy flicks.
You could open a door with him, he's such a knob.
