Author Topic: Liverpool - 2 Arsenal - 2 - Full TIme (Read 94172 times)

Blarf · « **Reply #120 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:33 pm »

Quote from: Solomon Grundy on December 21, 2014, 06:00:35 pm

Anyone who criticises the manager for those defensive lapses is a berk. That is purely down to the individual and their concentration levels.

As for the 2nd goal a good goalkeeper would have saved it.

I hear you but when these lapses happens in almost every f*cking game these are more than just individual lapses.

red mongoose · « **Reply #121 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:34 pm »

Quote from: Solomon Grundy on December 21, 2014, 06:01:54 pm

I love Brendan Rodgers but starting Brad Jones has cost him 4 points in the last two games. 4 of the 5 goals he has conceded would of been saved by a decent keeper.

I was thinking the same, Sol.

B0151? · « **Reply #122 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:36 pm »

Quote from: peachybum on December 21, 2014, 06:03:10 pm

10th at Xmas(if Chelsea win as you'd expect). Not really good enough.

Some good football today but toothless up front and not able to defend. It's like Brendan's first 6 months in charge which is a bit shite considering he's been here for 2 and a half years and had 5 transfer windows.

How were we toothless?

We scored 2 and Lucas, Markovic and Borini all had really good chances.

theredguy03 · « **Reply #123 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:41 pm »

That was a frustrating game, Arsenal got 2 undeserved goals (why do they always play better against us instead of against Chelsea or Man United every bloody season?!). Boxing Day's game shouldn't be as gruelling, no disrespect to Burnley who have a good home record!

Keita Success · « **Reply #124 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:45 pm »

I actually feel really sorry for Borini.

JohnM · « **Reply #125 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:48 pm »

Some great positives Lallana, Coutihno, Sakho, Sterling but we cannot play Gerrard and Lucas together they cannot last 90mins, Lucas was shagged at the end and could of cost us. We deserved that and more, great to see some passion Borini silly yellow but could of been a straight red.

MoM Lallana

Adeemo · « **Reply #126 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:04:49 pm »

Quote from: Bincey on December 21, 2014, 06:00:59 pm

Er, what?

Quote from: Twelfth Man on December 21, 2014, 06:01:08 pm

Wat? You must be joking? Much better performance, that 1st-half perhaps the best we have played at home this season. This is the way to go. Unlucky not to get the win. But much much better.

We dominated and played well, yet we're terrible in both boxes, for me we deserved nothing as we were inept in the most important areas of the pitch.

Jake · « **Reply #127 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:02 pm »

Quote from: surfer on December 21, 2014, 05:59:03 pm

I'm spent.

So am I!!!

stockdam · « **Reply #128 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:04 pm »

Quote from: clinical on December 21, 2014, 06:02:29 pm

We are better than arsenal with no striker or defense. That says a lot to me

We were even better than them when we had 10 men.

Borini needs to be fined for the first booking. Yes it was our throw but he needlessly got booked and then sent off.

Chig · « **Reply #129 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:10 pm »

We played very well, disappointed not to get the 3 points. But I can proudly say that it was a joy to watch us attack again.
BTW, I love and hate Skrtel so much and we can never fault the passion that Borini brings.

Merry Christmas everyone!!

Circa1892 · « **Reply #130 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:11 pm »

Quote from: Kennys Jacket on December 21, 2014, 06:03:51 pm

I kinda agree, but he was correct, it was out throw. Ref was disgusting today

Or you could argue it's the linesmans job to spot those things - he didn't. Oliver had to give a lot of decisions cos his linesman did fuck all...

the_red_pill · « **Reply #131 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:12 pm »

Quote from: us_col on December 21, 2014, 05:58:30 pm

Utter relief but...

We have a manager who does not know how to coach a defense.
This is his 3rd year - same questions every week...
Just look at the 3 defenders ball-watching for their 2nd goal.

I'm so angry at Kolo for that goal!

He "lets" it go past him.. then realise "Oh shit! I should have stopped it!"

EDIT: Come to think of it- he headed it back across for Arsenal for the first goal!

MrEazi1 · « **Reply #132 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:21 pm »

Quote from: kennedy81 on December 21, 2014, 05:59:24 pm

mother of god.

deserved at least a point, would have fucking wept had we lost that.

Agreed, point was fair result. Defeat would have been catastrophic and really would've put our season at rock bottom. We performed really well in terms of our movement and interplay up until their first goal. Arsenal didn't have a sniff for long periods of the game. Performance wise its better but ye gods we have such a soft underbelly, we're struggling to score as it is and to concede soft goals like we do is so self-defeating.

Got ragged in the second half and frustating to drop points in a league game yet again but considering our dire situation its not a bad result.

And I think that's the last we'll see of Fabio Borini in a Liverpool kit.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #133 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:23 pm »

Quote from: Vinay on December 21, 2014, 06:02:42 pm

Where we belong lads, and probably where we will finish.
That , is, probably 15 points off 4th, in 10th position.
Merry Xmas.

We aren't 15 pts off 4th.

stonty · « **Reply #134 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:25 pm »

Dear Santa, a defensive coach please

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #135 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:25 pm »

Quote from: Red Sea on December 21, 2014, 06:04:13 pm

I was very pleased with the performance until i saw the table! We're 10th? How is that possible?

Spurs 5 points ahead of us is truly a head scratcher.

Sir Psycho Sexy · « **Reply #136 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:25 pm »

As grateful as I am to Skrtel for scoring that goal, he was at fault for both goals today

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #137 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:27 pm »

Quote from: Something Cringey on December 21, 2014, 06:04:45 pm

I actually feel really sorry for Borini.

I don't. He's a fucking idiot

hide5seek · « **Reply #138 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:30 pm »

We are playing so much better. Oh for a decent goalie and striker.

HighSix · « **Reply #139 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:43 pm »

Quote from: tea_tree on December 21, 2014, 05:59:38 pm

It would be hard for anyone to convince me that the referee was not a bloody cheat. There's no way that was a red card if he didn't send Flamini off. And there were several other decisions that mysteriously went Arsenal's way. The officiating in the PL is a joke.

Take off your red glasses. Flamini red would have been soft whereas Borini was lucky it was not straight red. Borini acted like a mad dog for his 5 minutes on the pitch.

Kingstopic · « **Reply #140 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:47 pm »

Quote from: 12Kings on December 21, 2014, 06:03:36 pm

nah I think its possible still, everyone except the top 2 are going to drop big points, manchester united are the great pretenders at the moment.

Top 4 is away, best hope is to put all our eggs into the Europa.

Fiasco · « **Reply #141 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:55 pm »

We didn't deserve to win. You don't deserve to win a football match because you done the attacking things right. It's a game of attacking AND defending. And when you can't defend simple crosses and other routine passages of play then you don't deserve to win.

A draw was a fair result.

10 years on · « **Reply #142 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:05:58 pm »

Quote from: Black & White Paul on December 21, 2014, 06:00:37 pm

At the end of the 1st half there were dozens slagging off Skirtel for his performance, just watch the same ones come in now and praise him.

In fairness his defending was terrible for both their goals.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #143 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:00 pm »

Quote from: the_red_pill on December 21, 2014, 06:05:12 pm

I'm so angry at Kolo for that goal!

He "lets" it go past him.. then realise "Oh shit! I should have stopped it!"

Yes, terrible defending. But Lovren has done much worse, so, whatever.

jfc · « **Reply #144 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:01 pm »

Quote from: Black & White Paul on December 21, 2014, 06:00:37 pm

At the end of the 1st half there were dozens slagging off Skirtel for his performance, just watch the same ones come in now and praise him.

really? Skrtel has made many many errors over the past 2 seasons i doubt he'll get praised in terms of being defensively solid because he evidently is not

goalrushatgoodison · « **Reply #145 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:01 pm »

One question for the ref. why did he give a free against Flamini for his challenge on Llanna? If it was for a flaying elbow then not booking him is a complete abdication of his responsibility. If it wasn't for a flaying elbow then what was it for?

tommy LFC · « **Reply #146 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:03 pm »

Top 4 trophy is gone.

Good thing the Europa League means the exact same thing. Would rather the silverware.

Il Capitano · « **Reply #147 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:09 pm »

It basically comes down to either we buy a big striker in January, or we are fucked as a football club. Just go and fucking do it, don't mess around for three weeks lowballing a club and then lose him.

EmotionalCitrus · « **Reply #148 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:10 pm »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on December 21, 2014, 06:03:37 pm

Honestly I give the fuck up. Both of those goals were criminal, fucking criminal.

Rodgers bite the bullet and bury your ego get in defensive help.

There isn't a grave big enough for that.

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #149 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:11 pm »

Our defenders don't bloody communicate. Defending an attack is a group activity, you want to create order out of a mass of people, talk. Our shape isn't good enough, and then once we have numbers back, we don't fucking talk to each other, tell your teammate who's around you if he hasn't spotted it. For the 2nd goal Skrtel should have read the play, saw that Toure was there to cut out the line of the cross and got tight on his man, he didn't read the play but there was nothing between our defenders either to help each other out, to point him where necessary. It's pathetic.

Paul_h · « **Reply #150 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:11 pm »

Though Sterling was very greedy 2nd half. Was shooting from impossible angles, all to the detriment of the team.

anyway, great fightback. We are starting to click..that was a huge point. So important for our confidence going forward

Ste08 · « **Reply #151 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:15 pm »

Another point closer to 40

plura · « **Reply #152 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:17 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on December 21, 2014, 06:02:33 pm

Lallana is Liverpool's best player for me along with Sterling.

Borini tried to show he cares, you have to question if it was genuine passion or acting. The stupidity of his first yellow card is indescribable.

It's stupid but more understandable than the second for sure. The first he works back and wins the ball perfectly, and the ref makes a huge mistake in a crucial part of the game.

Ski · « **Reply #153 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:18 pm »

Fucking fuming here. 2 shots and we let them score both.

Too angry for words!! Goodnight.

Chakan · « **Reply #154 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:18 pm »

Quote from: Bakez0151 on December 21, 2014, 06:04:36 pm

How were we toothless?

We scored 2 and Lucas, Markovic and Borini all had really good chances.

No point in creating chance after chance after chance 29 shots! 29! the most since Opta started collecting stats, only 4 actually troubled the keeper.

B0151? · « **Reply #155 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:19 pm »

Seems some have set their markers down and refuse to acknowledge any positives at all at this point. Sad to see.

Adam_LFC · « **Reply #156 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:28 pm »

Quote from: Something Cringey on December 21, 2014, 06:04:45 pm

I actually feel really sorry for Borini.

Me too. Never been given a proper chance at all. Showed some passion and desire and it went to his head. He won't be putting on a Liverpool shirt again I am afraid.

Butter Keks · « **Reply #157 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:35 pm »

Start Skrtel off with a bandage every game. Seems to up his performance by about 50%.

On a more serious note we've looked a lot better in the past few games (even against Man Utd), get ourselves sorted with a new striker in January and go for the Europa.

farawayred · « **Reply #158 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:38 pm »

Quote from: Bakez0151 on December 21, 2014, 06:04:36 pm

How were we toothless?

We scored 2 and Lucas, Markovic and Borini all had really good chances.

Liverpool: 27 shots -> 2 goals
Arsenal: 7 shots -> 2 goals

We have a bite, but no teeth. Chances don't count.

Twelfth Man · « **Reply #159 on:** December 21, 2014, 06:06:45 pm »

We are starting to see glimpses of last season's style of play. Rodgers needs about 2/3 players to get us playing that free-flowing football. We need a DM, mobile striker and we should be back to something approaching last season's game. I've been encouraged since Raheem has played upfront, it has changed our game. He is not the answer, in that he is not a finisher, but Timbo was not far off, just a bit of pace, some darting runs, stretch play, and all of a sudden the rest of the side starts functioning. Contrast that to Lambert/Balotelli playing upfront and what that did to our free-flowing fluid attack? Encouraged.