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« Reply #16840 on: May 6, 2021, 04:07:04 pm »
Getting a bit sidetracked here...

Can we all get back to rewarding loyalty for last season as it has been for every other season. Attend 68% of games, guaranteed tickets.

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« Reply #16841 on: May 6, 2021, 04:07:38 pm »
Those lads who would have missed out on Atletico but now have full CL credits because I was able to get in and help them.

I deserve shafting for that. What a twat I was.

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« Reply #16842 on: May 6, 2021, 04:08:27 pm »
😂😂 just donít like it when peopleís location is brought into things.  Totally unnecessary

But it's alright for him to bait me because I have been fucked over whilst he sits there on his 19 credits all fine and dandy I suppose.


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« Reply #16843 on: May 6, 2021, 04:09:01 pm »
Getting a bit sidetracked here...

Can we all get back to rewarding loyalty for last season as it has been for every other season. Attend 68% of games, guaranteed tickets.

We can, I sympathise with you but the club cannot win here, it was not a normal season and will not be a normal season next year either!

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« Reply #16844 on: May 6, 2021, 04:09:40 pm »
From what I've heard, the buy or attend argument will soon be a thing of the past. Just is what I heard from a mate on the ticketing forum a while back

It was meant to be that if the ticket isn't scanned you will lose the credit, whether or not that is still the case I don't know

Any ideas Harinder? Obviously with the caveat that next season is not valid credits, but surely if it is the case they'd be trialling it next season, before implementing it for 22/23 and removing real credits


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« Reply #16845 on: May 6, 2021, 04:09:52 pm »
But it's alright for him to bait me because I have been fucked over whilst he sits there on his 19 credits all fine and dandy I suppose.



No it isnít, just donít bring someoneís location or background into it. Simple.

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« Reply #16846 on: May 6, 2021, 04:10:03 pm »
Those lads who would have missed out on Atletico but now have full CL credits because I was able to get in and help them.

I deserve shafting for that. What a twat I was.

Those lads would have been able to get their own tickets if you had told them the secret to getting into the site but then you wouldn't get the kudos for being such a top bloke would you? Oh and before you say it no I don't believe you when you say you didn't know what it was

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« Reply #16847 on: May 6, 2021, 04:10:28 pm »
We can, I sympathise with you but the club cannot win here, it was not a normal season and will not be a normal season next year either!

The fact it's not a normal season isn't an excuse.


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« Reply #16848 on: May 6, 2021, 04:11:36 pm »
Those lads would have been able to get their own tickets if you had told them the secret to getting into the site but then you wouldn't get the kudos for being such a top bloke would you? Oh and before you say it no I don't believe you when you say you didn't know what it was

And as I keep telling you, I didn't know the secret at that point.

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« Reply #16849 on: May 6, 2021, 04:11:54 pm »
We can, I sympathise with you but the club cannot win here, it was not a normal season and will not be a normal season next year either!

What the club can do is reward loyalty for last season like they have done for every other season, though ;)

68% of games attend, guaranteed sales.

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« Reply #16850 on: May 6, 2021, 04:12:23 pm »
And that vice chair said Iíd be alright with my 13 games from 19/20 just a few weeks ago

It wasn't his decision to make and in fairness to him I remember him posting at the time and he didn't actually say you would be fine.
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« Reply #16851 on: May 6, 2021, 04:12:33 pm »
no I don't believe you when you say you didn't know what it was

First, I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.

But if I did know, then I would be on 15/15 and not 13/15 wouldn't I, genius.

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« Reply #16852 on: May 6, 2021, 04:13:19 pm »
It wasn't his decision to make and in fairness to him I remember him posting at the time and he didn't actually say you would be fine.

He literally did.

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« Reply #16853 on: May 6, 2021, 04:18:39 pm »
Let's see how bitter you are when they ban flights from Ireland next season

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« Reply #16854 on: May 6, 2021, 04:25:37 pm »
But it's alright for him to bait me because I have been fucked over whilst he sits there on his 19 credits all fine and dandy I suppose.

If you invite people to self harm, you deserve all the shite you get.

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« Reply #16855 on: May 6, 2021, 04:36:59 pm »
Aside from the in-fighting. The real issue here is that 300+ proper fans have been shafted by the club. In no way is that ok. Just make an extra 1-2,000 tickets available to everyone with 10 games or more last season who donít have 18-19 required credits, there canít be many... Someone is buying those tickets all the same. Better it be those people than someone with 0 credits.

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« Reply #16856 on: May 6, 2021, 04:43:43 pm »
Aside from the in-fighting. The real issue here is that 300+ proper fans have been shafted by the club. In no way is that ok. Just make an extra 1-2,000 tickets available to everyone with 10 games or more last season who donít have 18-19 required credits, there canít be many... Someone is buying those tickets all the same. Better it be those people than someone with 0 credits.

Hopefully the club reconsider and reward loyalty as they always have done instead of null and voiding efforts.

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« Reply #16857 on: May 6, 2021, 04:46:49 pm »
If you invite people to self harm, you deserve all the shite you get.

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« Reply #16858 on: May 6, 2021, 04:48:09 pm »
Sent two carefully worded and polite emails to the club, hopefully every one of the 300 does the same.

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« Reply #16859 on: May 6, 2021, 04:50:00 pm »
So basically: if you went to 13 games out of 19 in 18/19 you can buy any tickets for the next season. If you went to 13 games out of 15 in 19/20 you're fucked. It's a disgrace and it's unfair. You expect these kind of decisions from the club but to think that SOS agreed with this, it makes me wanna vomit. It's not too late from the club and SOS to review this decision and do the right thing

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« Reply #16860 on: May 6, 2021, 04:54:06 pm »
Aside from the in-fighting. The real issue here is that 300+ proper fans have been shafted by the club. In no way is that ok. Just make an extra 1-2,000 tickets available to everyone with 10 games or more last season who donít have 18-19 required credits, there canít be many... Someone is buying those tickets all the same. Better it be those people than someone with 0 credits.
Spot on,especially the last bit.

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« Reply #16861 on: May 6, 2021, 05:10:30 pm »
Does anyone think the club is just using Covid as an excuse to reduce the number of people in the guaranteed sales. After seeing how many extra tickets were available for games in the second half of 19/20, we know that more than 300 members with 13 failed fan update. Even if they allowed these 300 on 13+ for the first time into the guaranteed sale (assuming that number is accurate), there would still be fewer people in the sales than there were before.

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« Reply #16862 on: May 6, 2021, 05:12:55 pm »
Would be nice if the TO released all these numbers in their announcement tomorrow.

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« Reply #16863 on: May 6, 2021, 05:13:43 pm »
So basically: if you went to 13 games out of 19 in 18/19 you can buy any tickets for the next season. If you went to 13 games out of 15 in 19/20 you're fucked. It's a disgrace and it's unfair. You expect these kind of decisions from the club but to think that SOS agreed with this, it makes me wanna vomit. It's not too late from the club and SOS to review this decision and do the right thing

Spot on.

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« Reply #16864 on: May 6, 2021, 05:18:23 pm »
Would be nice if the TO released all these numbers in their announcement tomorrow.

Is there definitely going to be an announcement?

It would be nice to see some transparency on numbers, and who and who isn't being considered.
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« Reply #16865 on: May 6, 2021, 05:21:11 pm »
How do you find out if your membership is on auto renew? I can't find it in the members area or on the new ticketing website.

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« Reply #16866 on: May 6, 2021, 05:22:53 pm »
How do you find out if your membership is on auto renew? I can't find it in the members area or on the new ticketing website.

Under memberships it should be but mines been blank, you should get an email about the auto-renew (I got mine today).

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« Reply #16867 on: May 6, 2021, 05:22:55 pm »
How do you find out if your membership is on auto renew? I can't find it in the members area or on the new ticketing website.

Someone asked this the other day and I had a look and couldn't find it like it used to say. But you would probably have had an email this afternoon to say your membership is auto-renewing next week.
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« Reply #16868 on: May 6, 2021, 05:37:26 pm »
Someone asked this the other day and I had a look and couldn't find it like it used to say. But you would probably have had an email this afternoon to say your membership is auto-renewing next week.

Yeah I have but my mum hasn't and we couldn't find it. We think she's on the autorenewal but not sure.

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« Reply #16869 on: May 6, 2021, 05:38:35 pm »
Hard to see how they could have counted 2019/20, even pro rata.

Would those who had bought tickets in the bulk sales for matches that were postponed and then cancelled have kept the credit towards the 13? If not and people are proposing that it was just going to be on matches that took place then that's not fair.

Also not fair on those who could have got up to 13 or more by buying tickets and attending one of the cancelled matches on a game by game basis.

Those who attended 13 or more games at least got to go to the games, unless they were just buying tickets to get their credits up.
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« Reply #16870 on: May 6, 2021, 05:41:58 pm »
Hard to see how they could have counted 2019/20, even pro rata.

Would those who had bought tickets in the bulk sales for matches that were postponed and then cancelled have kept the credit towards the 13? If not and people are proposing that it was just going to be on matches that took place then that's not fair.

Also not fair on those who could have got up to 13 or more by buying tickets and attending one of the cancelled matches on a game by game basis.

Those who attended 13 or more games at least got to go to the games, unless they were just buying tickets to get their credits up.

But what about if someone  attended 13 games, even without the last 4 games. Dont you think it's fair that they can buy any tickets next season?

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« Reply #16871 on: May 6, 2021, 05:45:08 pm »
But what about if someone  attended 13 games, even without the last 4 games. Dont you think it's fair that they can buy any tickets next season?

Not ahead of someone who maybe had attended 11 and had tickets for two more which got cancelled. Not their fault they didn't end up on 13 is it?

Assuming that's what has happened of course, if tickets bought for the cancelled matches weren't going to be counted for credits then I don't think it's fair to count any of the games. If they could count them then maybe they should do something different.
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« Reply #16872 on: May 6, 2021, 05:50:00 pm »
Hard to see how they could have counted 2019/20, even pro rata.

Would those who had bought tickets in the bulk sales for matches that were postponed and then cancelled have kept the credit towards the 13? If not and people are proposing that it was just going to be on matches that took place then that's not fair.

Also not fair on those who could have got up to 13 or more by buying tickets and attending one of the cancelled matches on a game by game basis.

Those who attended 13 or more games at least got to go to the games, unless they were just buying tickets to get their credits up.

Everyone that got fucked over only thinks they got fucked over because they believe what the club have decided to do isn't fair. What would have been fair to do from the club was make a decision that doesn't fuck them over, but fuck someone else over instead. 

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« Reply #16873 on: May 6, 2021, 05:50:42 pm »
Hard to see how they could have counted 2019/20, even pro rata.

Would those who had bought tickets in the bulk sales for matches that were postponed and then cancelled have kept the credit towards the 13? If not and people are proposing that it was just going to be on matches that took place then that's not fair.

Also not fair on those who could have got up to 13 or more by buying tickets and attending one of the cancelled matches on a game by game basis.

Those who attended 13 or more games at least got to go to the games, unless they were just buying tickets to get their credits up.

Itís not that hard to see, really.

This is about looking after as many people as possible, and rewarding their loyalty.

I do think anyone that actually had a ticket for the postponed games should have their credit counted. They too have been through the arduous process of trying to secure a ticket.

Whatever works best for an individual from the below two options...

1. Pro-rata on the 15 games that took place at 68%, like every other season. So 11+ games attended guarantees it.

Or 2. Whether they would have been on 13+ because they had already secured tickets for the postponed matches.

THAT is the fairest way which ensures last season isnít null and void loyalty.

However, that said, I am almost certain that the TO has already wiped off the history for tickets that were purchased and postponed. So thatís fucked up my beautiful suggestion if so.

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« Reply #16874 on: May 6, 2021, 05:54:32 pm »
Not ahead of someone who maybe had attended 11 and had tickets for two more which got cancelled. Not their fault they didn't end up on 13 is it?

Assuming that's what has happened of course, if tickets bought for the cancelled matches weren't going to be counted for credits then I don't think it's fair to count any of the games. If they could count them then maybe they should do something different.

It's not their fault that they didnt reached 13 beacuse the last 4 games were cancelled. And if it was for me I would allow tickets for whoever had 11/12 tickets in that season. But I can understand that it could be hard to decide what to do in this situation. But i also think that  people that had 13 credits (without the last 4 games) deserve to buy tickets like fans that bought 13 games in the 18/19

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« Reply #16875 on: May 6, 2021, 05:55:42 pm »
Everyone that got fucked over only thinks they got fucked over because they believe what the club have decided to do isn't fair. What would have been fair to do from the club was make a decision that doesn't fuck them over, but fuck someone else over instead.

Exactly

I think that writing 19/20 off as far as credits is concerned is probably the fairest thing to do but someone is always going to lose out. If you got to 13 for the first time last season and are looking at losing that then that's a shame, but it would also be a shame if you were on 13 from the season before and would have been on 13 again but for the cancelled matches.
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« Reply #16876 on: May 6, 2021, 06:05:14 pm »
Exactly

I think that writing 19/20 off as far as credits is concerned is probably the fairest thing to do but someone is always going to lose out. If you got to 13 for the first time last season and are looking at losing that then that's a shame, but it would also be a shame if you were on 13 from the season before and would have been on 13 again but for the cancelled matches.

But these people wont be losing out because they're gonna take into consideration credits from 18/19. Was it that hard including in the sale, fans with 13 games for the season 19/20. What happened to the tickets that few supporters lost because they failed the fan update?

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« Reply #16877 on: May 6, 2021, 06:10:29 pm »
I actually benefit from the announcement today as I only managed 8 in 19/20 and 14 in 18/19. Iíd be in the guaranteed sale but if I wanted to go with a mate who only accrued 10 in 18/19 Iíd have to risk my guaranteed seat in a ballot with potentially 100,000 others?
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« Reply #16878 on: May 6, 2021, 06:12:36 pm »
I actually benefit from the announcement today as I only managed 8 in 19/20 and 14 in 18/19. Iíd be in the guaranteed sale but if I wanted to go with a mate who only accrued 10 in 18/19 Iíd have to risk my guaranteed seat in a ballot with potentially 100,000 others?

There won't be 100,000 in a ballot. But yes you would.

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« Reply #16879 on: May 6, 2021, 06:13:47 pm »
But these people wont be losing out because they're gonna take into consideration credits from 18/19. Was it that hard including in the sale, fans with 13 games for the season 19/20. What happened to the tickets that few supporters lost because they failed the fan update?

If you didn't have 13 in 18/19 but would have got them in 19/20 but for the cancellations then you would lose out.

I don't think they could have found a solution that would have satisfied everyone, maybe their systems just aren't up to it.

I think the biggest issue is letting people have a list of up to 20 people that they can transfer tickets to, can't see the thinking behind that at all.
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