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Kinda hope City win it. If they win, it’s just another trophy that no one will remember and no one will respect, that one day may get stripped from them. It will rile up more people in London and therefore cause more outrage about City’s cheating over the last decade.

If Arsenal win there will be a party all summer. The celebrations would be huge, especially with these Arsenal players. It will also be Arteta equalling Klopp’s PL which I cannot accept. People would actually respect their title. There will be more celebrations and acclaim in one night than City’s treble winners got in a year.

Also let’s not forget everyone calling to null and void the one year that we finally managed to keep the cheats at arms length.

So I’d rather City win another meaningless trophy.

Betting, Drafts and Fantasy/Prediction Leagues / Re: 2023/24 Champions League Predictions Thread

« Last post by Red Star on Today at 05:24:50 am »

SEMI-FINALS, FIRST LEG

Tuesday 30th April

Bayern v Real Madrid (1-2)

Wednesday 1st May

Dortmund v PSG (2-1)

FIRST PLAYER TO SCORE - Vinicius
FIRST TEAM TO SCORE - Dortmund

Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold

« Last post by lionel_messias on Today at 05:08:09 am »

Quote from: blert596 on April 25, 2024, 11:39:18 pm

Bradley is currently playing with the fire and commitment that an early Trent had.

I watch him a lot, and he has basically turned into a wannabee Xabi Alonso, with the work rate of Big Jan.

As someone has said previously I believe we are now playing a style to accommodate him, and its detrimental primarily to Konate, and also to Salah. I honestly cannot remember a game this year or most of last year where Trent was stretching defences for Salah (or himself) to exploit. Bradley is performing that function of bombing up the pitch but doesn't have the delivery/vision/composure of Trent.

I see the benefit of his long passing ability but it really is the opposite of how Mac Allister plays, with his vertical passing. Great to have the options, but probably quite difficult on the forwards.

For me, the bottom line is that were not currently good enough to be having a right back who ranks his defensive duties as second to "his" preferred role as a midfield distributor.

Very insightful post, this.

Hopefully Arne has a new plan. Surely, a key interview question that led to his nabbing the head coach job.

Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)

« Last post by Darren G on Today at 04:54:59 am »

Quote from: Knight on Yesterday at 06:51:24 pm

Of course it's an outlier. He's doubled his xG. So it absolutely hasn't been par for the course. Re Nunez, I just don't buy the idea that one season is an outlier but the others are 'him'. The reality is that players underperform and over perform their xG in different seasons but it mostly reverts to the mean. So it's best to take the largest sample size possible as representative. And if his one season of overperforming his xG is enough to cause him to be basically hitting his xG over his career guess what, he's not undershooting his xG by very much. And of course, even if you think he's mostly going to shoot under his xG you still need to accept natural variance and luck - see the number of times he's hit the woodwork this season and reckon with the possibility that he might overperform in future seasons, as he over performed in a past season.

People just need to stop under emphasising the ability to get high value shots and over emphasizing finishing ability and we'll all be a lot closer to agreement. I doubt we'll agree in every particular but at least we won't have insane ideas about Nunez being rubbish in the face of actual production, which is genuinely really good even with his bad (and unlucky) finishing.

So Jota being over his xG this season is definitely an outlier despite him doing very similar before, but the season that Nunez outperformed his xG wasn't, despite that only happening for one season in the past five? I'm not getting into the bulk of the other stuff you wrote as it largely consists of intangibles that can't be properly measured such as 'luck'.

And what is this?: " his one season of overperforming his xG is enough to cause him to be basically hitting his xG over his career guess what, he's not undershooting his xG by very much".
So, it's ok that he's underperforms his xG almost every season (4 out of the past five) because he had one really good season, so it all evens out? That's not how it works.

Incidentally, do you have somewhere that I can see the stats for "high value shots"? All I am able to find is total shots on goal. As far as that goes, Nunez has the highest amount in the league with 104 shots, but only has 11 goals, which other players in the league have managed with around 40 shots on goal. This appears to indicate that finishing ability is more of a factor than you give it credit for. I am not suggesting that total shots aren't a factor at all, but of the top ten scorers in the league eight of them are above their xG (Salah is slightly below his as is Haaland for the first time ever) and every one of them has outperformed their xG for multiple seasons. That indicates that finishing ability is not overemphasized as you claim.

Quote from: PEG2K on Yesterday at 10:17:46 pm

The problem with Jota and Nunez regardless of how xG-savvy you can be is that you can see with your fucking eyes who has better technique and who can strike a ball more cleanly therefore is the far better finisher lol.

...and of course there's that too.

General Football and Sport / Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league

« Last post by Bucko - Dubai on Today at 03:59:08 am »

They are starting to sense it happening to them

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