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deano2727 · « **Reply #29280 on:** May 29, 2019, 04:11:51 pm »

This is a crucial window for United. You would like to hope for their own sakes they have learnt from previous mistakes. Truth is, they are at least 2 , probably 3 years away from challenging. The only way they can do that is by buying in the right players. That means no more buying Sanchez', Di Maria's and Pogba's of the world. You have to say, Bale has United transfer written all over it, and its exactly the kind of transfer the rest of the league will be hoping they pull off.

They should look in the premier league for players and the smaller teams in Germany, France, Spain, Holland etc.. Players like Maddison and Ruben Neves could all do a job for them, as an example. They need to ditch this transfer strategy of buying second rate superstars who are unhappy, looking for more money or unwanted.

With all that said, I hope they continue along the same path they have done in recent years.

Sudden Death Draft Loser · « **Reply #29281 on:** May 29, 2019, 04:22:31 pm »

Quote from: Sons of pioneerS on May 28, 2019, 11:58:00 pm

It's amazing how so many of them have suddenly lost interest in the game since they went into decline.

TBF i lost interest when Hodgson was in charge.

ToneLa · « **Reply #29282 on:** May 29, 2019, 04:27:26 pm »

Quote from: Riquende on May 28, 2019, 02:36:08 pm

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/thinking-the-unthinkable-not-interested-in-football-any-more.447970/

Diddums.

"For some unexplained reason I just don't feel that into football as much as I did when we were dominating the game. I think it's because of all the money ruining it now."

If you don't support United when they lose..
You're this fella

Skeeve · « **Reply #29283 on:** May 29, 2019, 04:50:14 pm »

Quote from: Lycan on May 29, 2019, 06:04:19 am

The very epitome of a glory hunter. They have no interest in supporting a team if they can't gloat or laud it over their mates. That's the reason most of them started supporting Utd in the first place. My only surprise is they haven't moved on to another club yet.

To be fair to the fickle gloryhunters, even if they were winning, they just had a couple of seasons of Mourinho, that'd be enough to put anyone off football.

Hazell · « **Reply #29284 on:** May 29, 2019, 07:55:21 pm »

Quote from: thisyearisouryear on May 29, 2019, 07:09:48 am

How the fuck are these lot in contention for De Ligt! Why on earth is he even considering going to that shithouse!

They're in contention for De Ligt in the same way that ScouserAtHeart is in contention for Margot Robbie.

him_15 · « **Reply #29285 on:** May 30, 2019, 04:30:21 am »

Why would De Ligt wanna join United at this stage? No CL football, the squad is full of flop and is clearly a level below at least three teams thus no chance to challenge for the title in the next two years. An unproven, young manger who doesn't seem to have a strategy. If De Ligt comes simply for big salary then he could possibly turn out to be another Sanchez.

trimore · « **Reply #29286 on:** May 30, 2019, 05:21:55 am »

Quote from: Sudden Death Draft Loser on May 29, 2019, 04:22:31 pm

TBF i lost interest when Hodgson was in charge.

During those years I took a step back and fell in love with the history of the club, not so much the day to day. Reading and watching as much as I could of Hunt, Keegan, Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Fowler etc. Thus I felt some pride in just getting enough wins during those yeats to keep a semblence of competence to build on in the future and continue the legacy of all those great players. The past kept me interested in the present.

But that I is less of a motivation for the current United fans since they have so much money it will almost keep them by default in the top 6 to 8 range which wasn't really a crutch we had back then. They can just assume it will happen without paying any attention even if they care about the history of the club.

newterp · « **Reply #29287 on:** May 31, 2019, 03:07:08 am »

They want 80m for Lukaka.

Tobelius · « **Reply #29288 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:23:06 am »

Quote from: newterp on May 31, 2019, 03:07:08 am

They want 80m for Lukaka.

Haha,maybe they'll get that amount in Zimbabwean dollars..

I'm sure an Aquilani-like loan to Italy is on the cards eventually for both him and Sanchez,with United paying most of their salaries of course.

12C · « **Reply #29289 on:** May 31, 2019, 07:52:44 am »

Quote from: newterp on May 31, 2019, 03:07:08 am

They want 80m for Lukaka.

Come on, pound for pound, he is twice the player they bought from Everton.

Hymer Red · « **Reply #29290 on:** May 31, 2019, 09:11:46 am »

Quote from: newterp on May 31, 2019, 03:07:08 am

They want 80m for Lukaka.

Is that 80 metres round his chest or how far he has to run before he gets up to half speed?

red1977 · « **Reply #29291 on:** May 31, 2019, 09:21:44 am »

Quote from: him_15 on May 30, 2019, 04:30:21 am

Why would De Ligt wanna join United at this stage? No CL football, the squad is full of flop and is clearly a level below at least three teams thus no chance to challenge for the title in the next two years. An unproven, young manger who doesn't seem to have a strategy. If De Ligt comes simply for big salary then he could possibly turn out to be another Sanchez.

He’s still only a boy, maybe he will jump at the chance of going to Disneyland.

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #29292 on:** May 31, 2019, 09:26:59 am »

Quote from: him_15 on May 30, 2019, 04:30:21 am

Why would De Ligt wanna join United at this stage? No CL football, the squad is full of flop and is clearly a level below at least three teams thus no chance to challenge for the title in the next two years. An unproven, young manger who doesn't seem to have a strategy. If De Ligt comes simply for big salary then he could possibly turn out to be another Sanchez.

Raiola got a £41 million cut on the last one of his players who moved there on a big fee.

4pool · « **Reply #29293 on:** June 1, 2019, 02:04:05 pm »

I hope we share the 6th tag from these lot today.

Them 6th in the League.

And Liverpool have their 6th...

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #29294 on:** June 1, 2019, 02:32:51 pm »

Never really occurred to me, but when they glammed football up in the 90s and went the Premier League route, we had been successful for a couple of decades, then we went through a bad patch - but we still attracted supporters. They supported the team through good and bad, thick and thin and any successes were greeted with delerium. If we eventually win the league one day then we've already got a fanbase that hasn't seen us win it in 30 years - so that fan base having been through the lean times is used to it.

Manchester United are the opposite - largely shite before the Premier League and then the #1 bandwagon jumpers wet dream - they were the gloryhunters top team and all they've seen is success. If the wheels fall off then the majority of their fans are there for the wins and the success and the glory.. What happens if they get another few years down the line and other top clubs are more successful. They've had a few poor seasons - but still won cups and it seems like half their fanbase are going to fuck footy off (or more likely bandwagon jump onto another teams shirt tails)

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #29295 on:** June 1, 2019, 02:34:48 pm »

Quote from: newterp on May 31, 2019, 03:07:08 am

They want 80m for Lukaka.

I've honestly never understood where Lukaku got his reputation from or why some people in the media rate him so highly. He had 1 good season at Everton where he scored 25 goals. That's the only time in his career where he has managed to break into the twenties goal wise. Outside of that he averages about 15 goals a season. He only scored 12 last year. Salah scored that amount in a month for us once. If I was a United fan then I'd genuinely be scratching my head wondering what the fuck the scouting staff saw in this fraud

80 million? He's worth about 15, tops.

Son of Spion · « **Reply #29296 on:** June 1, 2019, 04:36:59 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on June 1, 2019, 02:32:51 pm

Never really occurred to me, but when they glammed football up in the 90s and went the Premier League route, we had been successful for a couple of decades, then we went through a bad patch - but we still attracted supporters. They supported the team through good and bad, thick and thin and any successes were greeted with delerium. If we eventually win the league one day then we've already got a fanbase that hasn't seen us win it in 30 years - so that fan base having been through the lean times is used to it.

Manchester United are the opposite - largely shite before the Premier League and then the #1 bandwagon jumpers wet dream - they were the gloryhunters top team and all they've seen is success. If the wheels fall off then the majority of their fans are there for the wins and the success and the glory.. What happens if they get another few years down the line and other top clubs are more successful. They've had a few poor seasons - but still won cups and it seems like half their fanbase are going to fuck footy off (or more likely bandwagon jump onto another teams shirt tails)

They've lived by that particular sword when the going was good, so they'll have to die by it now the decline is really setting in. They'll always have a solid fanbase, but they will shed an awful lot of their glory hunters. I'm actually surprised by just how many United 'fans' have suddenly gone off football altogether since they went to shit. The club benefited from being the media darlings and the glory hunters destination of choice. They are big opportunists over at OT, but they cannot be surprised when the bandwagon-jumpers start to move on for pastures new once a better looking proposition turns up. All fads and fashions have their day. United have had theirs.

LanceLink!!!!! · « **Reply #29297 on:** June 1, 2019, 04:40:12 pm »

Enjoy your night Mancs, Pot Noodle and a wank

ToneLa · « **Reply #29298 on:** June 1, 2019, 04:50:15 pm »

The way their club is going the only decent wank they'll get tonight is over a Spurs throw in

elpistolero7 · « **Reply #29299 on:** June 1, 2019, 10:54:28 pm »

Chakan · « **Reply #29300 on:** June 1, 2019, 10:54:44 pm »

6th

Champions League Cup

4pool · « **Reply #29301 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:01:36 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on June 1, 2019, 02:04:05 pm

I hope we share the 6th tag from these lot today.

Them 6th in the League.

And Liverpool have their 6th...

Iska · « **Reply #29302 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:17:03 pm »

A neat little footnote to tonight: all their years of dominance since Ferguson took over, and that’s us matched their European Cup record for the period - four finals, two wins.

FiSh77 · « **Reply #29303 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:21:38 pm »

Our 6th can batter your 6th

Kekule · « **Reply #29304 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:26:28 pm »

Tell me, how does it feel...

... to only have 1/2 the number of European Cups that your biggest rivals have?

Hazell · « **Reply #29305 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:34:17 pm »

Quote from: Iska on June 1, 2019, 11:17:03 pm

A neat little footnote to tonight: all their years of dominance since Ferguson took over, and that’s us matched their European Cup record for the period - four finals, two wins.

On the plus side, they can still count on one hand the number of European Cups we've won.

kavah · « **Reply #29306 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:50:43 pm »

Quote from: Iska on June 1, 2019, 11:17:03 pm

A neat little footnote to tonight: all their years of dominance since Ferguson took over, and that’s us matched their European Cup record for the period - four finals, two wins.

As good as he was, there can be no doubt he was European light weight. I'm not sure why? Any theories?

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #29307 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:53:07 pm »

Quote from: Foregone Concussion on June 1, 2019, 11:34:17 pm

On the plus side, they can still count on one hand the number of European Cups we've won.

Boom!

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #29308 on:** June 1, 2019, 11:59:37 pm »

Going to name my child Sixth

Skeeve · « **Reply #29309 on:** June 2, 2019, 12:46:25 am »

Quote from: kavah on June 1, 2019, 11:50:43 pm

As good as he was, there can be no doubt he was European light weight. I'm not sure why? Any theories?

After a while, he had a lot of teams and refs beaten before kickoff in the league, in Europe it is all top sides so he was never able to establish himself and his club in the same way.

FiSh77 · « **Reply #29310 on:** June 2, 2019, 01:10:18 am »

Quote from: kavah on June 1, 2019, 11:50:43 pm

As good as he was, there can be no doubt he was European light weight. I'm not sure why? Any theories?

His best period in Europe was after Rafa came here and showed you have to use tactics other than throw on 4 forwards who cost more than most teams combined budgets, the mancs always got done by playing too open and teams hitting them on the counter, he wrote that stupid letter to Rafa telling him where he went wrong yet the drunken c*nt had managed one win in 10/11 attempts with one of the richest teams in Europe, I think he learnt a lot by watching what Rafa did over that 4/5 year period and was definitely a lot more cautious/tactical, especially in home legs where they often conceded stupid away goals prior to Rafa's arrival

4pool · « **Reply #29311 on:** June 2, 2019, 01:16:30 am »

Quote from: FiSh77 on June 2, 2019, 01:10:18 am

His best period in Europe was after Rafa came here and showed you have to use tactics other than throw on 4 forwards who cost more than most teams combined budgets, the mancs always got done by playing too open and teams hitting them on the counter, he wrote that stupid letter to Rafa telling him where he went wrong yet the drunken c*nt had managed one win in 10/11 attempts with one of the richest teams in Europe, I think he learnt a lot by watching what Rafa did over that 4/5 year period and was definitely a lot more cautious/tactical, especially in home legs where they often conceded stupid away goals prior to Rafa's arrival

Yeah, he adopted 4-2-3-1 from Rafa.

Not to mention.....the dreaded Zonal marking-- that the neanderthal ex-players and pundits on the telly kept harping about man to man being the only way.

Peabee · « **Reply #29312 on:** June 2, 2019, 03:00:06 am »

Quote from: Foregone Concussion on June 1, 2019, 11:34:17 pm

On the plus side, they can still count on one hand the number of European Cups we've won.

mikeb58 · « **Reply #29313 on:** June 2, 2019, 03:04:23 am »

For my Manc mates, who took the piss a little too early!

The mancs gloated after Barca had won.
They ridiculed the reds, tie over and done!
But I let it be known, our chances still alive.
If Barcelona score 1, we'll simply score 5!

But Barca then wilted under the Kopite roar.
We didn't need 5 goals, so we just got 4!
The mancs all went quiet, a result to dread.
You should never write off the boys in Red!

Mancs swapped Messi scarves for Kane.
Cheering on Spurs, Terry, Mark and Elaine!
Hoping and praying the Reds would fail.
But alas all their prayers where to no avail!

Old 'Big Ears' to Liverpool is coming home.
To add to the version we already own!
Meanwhile the mancs, full of envy and pain.
Because we've just won number 6 in Spain!

Skeeve · « **Reply #29314 on:** June 2, 2019, 05:18:11 am »

Quote from: 4pool on June 2, 2019, 01:16:30 am

Yeah, he adopted 4-2-3-1 from Rafa.

Not to mention.....the dreaded Zonal marking-- that the neanderthal ex-players and pundits on the telly kept harping about man to man being the only way.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to use the word 'kept' rather than keep, the lazy fuckers still bring it up even now.

Statto Red · « **Reply #29315 on:** June 2, 2019, 07:56:22 am »

United fans must be sick of the number 6.

Red Beret · « **Reply #29316 on:** June 2, 2019, 07:57:31 am »

6th on 66 points.

Number 6.

El Lobo · « **Reply #29317 on:** June 2, 2019, 08:31:34 am »

It’s not all bad

David Moyes 6 year contract finishes in a month

Red Beret · « **Reply #29318 on:** June 2, 2019, 09:46:06 am »

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/champions-league-final-2019-spurs-v-liverpool-1st-june.447352/page-29

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/champions-league-final-2019-spurs-v-liverpool-1st-june.447352/page-57

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #29319 on:** June 2, 2019, 09:53:54 am »

Quote from: Red Berry on June 2, 2019, 09:46:06 am

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/champions-league-final-2019-spurs-v-liverpool-1st-june.447352/page-29

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/champions-league-final-2019-spurs-v-liverpool-1st-june.447352/page-56

We've managed 32 pages and they're up to 45 since kick-off.