Author Topic: Ragnar Klavan (Read 124527 times)

thejbs · « **Reply #80 on:** July 20, 2016, 05:44:44 pm »

He's never scored an own-goal in his professional career. So not really a like-for-like with Skrtel then...

Purple Red · « **Reply #81 on:** July 20, 2016, 05:45:12 pm »

Positive quotes from Klopp. Hopefully an upgrade on Skrtel.

Moos · « **Reply #82 on:** July 20, 2016, 05:52:35 pm »

The new Kyrgiakos

Floydy · « **Reply #83 on:** July 20, 2016, 05:55:50 pm »

Could this guy turn out to be a Sami Hyypia type player ? in the sense that there will probably be low expectations from the fans allied with the fact he is clearly one of those players that develops as he gets older (Hyypia, Aldo, Vardy even) throw in the fact he was rejected as a youth etc etc makes it all the more that his trajectory is that he is a fine wine and gets better with age.

So here is to Ragnar I toast you with a vino tinto.

Welcome to heaven lad.

P.S watch out for the moaning fuckers on RAWK after a defeat

Redinho · « **Reply #84 on:** July 20, 2016, 05:58:56 pm »

Welcome! May he become an important part of our squad.

Kop 81 · « **Reply #85 on:** July 20, 2016, 06:01:24 pm »

Welcome lad! You're going to be boss.

Irakla · « **Reply #86 on:** July 20, 2016, 06:46:12 pm »

Klavan vs Liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbnz4IHb6-0

He looks boss to be honest, I thought he'd be a real hardman with bad touch, low IQ muscle /hassle merchant and stuff, but at first glance he can play real football and makes very intelligent passes, very shrewd business by Klopp.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #87 on:** July 20, 2016, 06:47:45 pm »

Welcome Ragnar! Boss name by the way.

Tobelius · « **Reply #88 on:** July 20, 2016, 06:48:51 pm »

Quote from: Irakla on July 20, 2016, 06:46:12 pm

Klavan vs Liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbnz4IHb6-0

He looks boss to be honest, I thought he'd be a real hardman with bad touch, low IQ muscle /hassle merchant and stuff, but at first glance he can play real football and makes very intelligent passes, very shrewd business by Klopp.

Interesting,thanks for the link mate!

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #89 on:** July 20, 2016, 06:49:30 pm »

Quote from: thejbs on July 20, 2016, 05:44:44 pm

He's never scored an own-goal in his professional career. So not really a like-for-like with Skrtel then...

He hasn't played in front of hesitant Simon before, has he?

gatcliffe · « **Reply #90 on:** July 20, 2016, 07:00:11 pm »

Good luck and welcome to LFC in Jurgen we trust.

fenre · « **Reply #91 on:** July 20, 2016, 07:17:25 pm »

I have not seen much of him, but when he played against us, he seemed to be in the Hyypia-mold: doing nothing spectacular, keeping it simple and that he had this calm aura about him.

Ocean Red · « **Reply #92 on:** July 20, 2016, 07:32:35 pm »

Welcome to Liverpool FC Ragnar Klavan. All the best of luck in your time here.

Mr_Shane · « **Reply #93 on:** July 20, 2016, 07:42:29 pm »

My first impression of him and reading up on him is that he is a no nonsense uncompromising defender. May just be the sort of person we need in defence in the league

Yevgeny · « **Reply #94 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:11:24 pm »

Apparently he can play left back too. I like him already.

Red Beret · « **Reply #95 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:42:59 pm »

Welcome, Lord Ragnar.

Andy · « **Reply #96 on:** July 20, 2016, 09:29:01 pm »

I hear Ragnar rocks, so that's 4th choice centre back Thorted.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #97 on:** July 20, 2016, 09:52:44 pm »

Liked his interview. His English is excellent. I think Klopp has signed him knowing that we have been a bit of a soft touch at the back, so Klavan adds a bit more bite. Ragnar the Red.

dosx · « **Reply #98 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:00:30 am »

Built like a tank, welcome to Anfield

dosx · « **Reply #99 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:14:13 am »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on July 20, 2016, 09:52:44 pm

Liked his interview. His English is excellent. I think Klopp has signed him knowing that we have been a bit of a soft touch at the back, so Klavan adds a bit more bite. Ragnar the Red.

Good command of English.

cricketrocks · « **Reply #100 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:41:31 am »

Quote from: dosx on July 21, 2016, 02:14:13 am

Good command of English.

Fragment, consider revising.

brownbear11 · « **Reply #101 on:** July 21, 2016, 06:16:31 am »

Quote from: Irakla on July 20, 2016, 06:46:12 pm

Klavan vs Liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbnz4IHb6-0

He looks boss to be honest, I thought he'd be a real hardman with bad touch, low IQ muscle /hassle merchant and stuff, but at first glance he can play real football and makes very intelligent passes, very shrewd business by Klopp.

Quite good on the ball, didn't realize how many times he shimmied away from Sturridge like that. Reminds me of Agger on the ball and Hyypia defensively.

If Lovren falls out of form and/or Sakho gets hurt, I think I feel pretty good about Ragnar slotting into that LCB role.

EestiRed · « **Reply #102 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:40:28 am »

Made my account a few weeks ago. Been browsing the forums for 5 years atleast but thought i should probably make an account aswell, didn´t see the spoilered parts in other parts of the forums without an account. Been following Liverpool since 2000-2001, my first football shirt was McManaman´s so maybe i was a fan even before.

So it´s only natural my first post is in the Ragnar Klavan thread(Eesti=Estonia). He is certainly a leader on the pitch, not one to hide away. Some have pointed out that he is a no nonsense defender, built like a tank. His physicality is decent but having watched most of his games for the national team and quite many Augsburg ones during the years i would say he is more of a" ball-playing elegant" defender sort of type. He prefers to pass rather than hoof it, even when getting pressed. He has quite good passing skills(long diagonals), reads the game well. Sakho probably has better passing abilities and is stronger aswell, but i see Ragnar as the more intelligent type when it comes to interceptions and reading the game. Likes to win tackles high up the pitch and press his opponent. There is a chance that more physical forwards could bully him. But then again during the last years many forwards have done the same with Skrtel and also other defenders in Liveprool´s defence. Probably with the addition of Matip and the commanding presence of Sakho that won´t happen again too many times with Klopp´s defence. Can´t remember during the Bundesliga time a single time someone got the better of him so bad that you could count it as bullying. He just takes them down beforehand

It remains to be seen how he can get accustomed to the Premier League and how much more can he develop. I still think Bundesliga and Premier league are quite different so it´s very interesting to see how he can manage when he gets some gametime. If he gets around 15 games in different competitions during the first year and performs solidly then i would call it a certain success considering the money paid. Ofcourse whole of Estonia hopes that he will play many more games and follow in the footsteps of the legendary Finn Hyypia but that is a big ask. Then again Ragnar definitely seems to have the mentality and willpower so best of wishes to him and expect quite a few more Estonians around Liverpool this year

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #103 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:42:44 am »

Thanks for that Eesti.

Tobelius · « **Reply #104 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:00:59 am »

Hi EestiRed! Nice post and greetings from your northern neighbour

. Same circumstances for me except i'm propably a bit older than you,been a fan since the early 80's.

It's great to hear your insight on Ragnar and it's news to me he's considered a ball playing CB,he should fit right in

.

EestiRed · « **Reply #105 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:38:10 am »

Thank you. Before streaming became available following games was quite limited here in Estonia. I read from Litmanen´s book that premier league games were being broadcast in Finland already during the 80´s if im not mistaken so that was huge for you guys. During the Mart Poom years some games were being broadcast and that is the first time i remember taking an interest to Liverpool. I should probably confess that the McManaman shirt was secondhand and a random pick by my mother but i definitely chose the next Owen one myself.

It might be different in the Premier league about the ball playing CB part considering the speed of the game. It´s only natural that in the Estonian national team our CB seems the best with the ball at his feet considering the level of our other players. Well it´s not that bad but overall he has been head and shoulders above every other player in terms of overall play and contribution to the national team. Also the game is just a tad slower in Germany. It remains to be seen whether he can continue to appear coolheaded with the ball right away or it takes a bit of adjusting.

Tobelius · « **Reply #106 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:56:37 am »

Quote from: EestiRed on July 21, 2016, 08:38:10 am

Thank you. Before streaming became available following games was quite limited here in Estonia. I read from Litmanen´s book that premier league games were being broadcast in Finland already during the 80´s if im not mistaken so that was huge for you guys. During the Mart Poom years some games were being broadcast and that is the first time i remember taking an interest to Liverpool. I should probably confess that the McManaman shirt was secondhand and a random pick by my mother but i definitely chose the next Owen one myself.

It might be different in the Premier league about the ball playing CB part considering the speed of the game. It´s only natural that in the Estonian national team our CB seems the best with the ball at his feet considering the level of our other players. Well it´s not that bad but overall he has been head and shoulders above every other player in terms of overall play and contribution to the national team. Also the game is just a tad slower in Germany. It remains to be seen whether he can continue to appear coolheaded with the ball right away or it takes a bit of adjusting.

Yeah,we certainly were fortunate in the 80's compared to you guys re. televised matches mate. Ha,i adored MacManaman myself and was crushed when he fucked off to Madrid,it was a sad day for me.

I think barring an injury crisis we'll bed Ragnar in slowly so he has time to adjust to the pace of PL,Klopp should know his strengths and weaknesses well from the bundesliga so no worries there at least for me.

itsalltosh · « **Reply #107 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:57:43 pm »

Welcome, Lord Ragnar,

Advil · « **Reply #108 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:23:26 pm »

Is it possible that he plays as a left back here? Being mentioned that he play as left back previously. Will be good to have a good solid defence. We have missed that since the Rafa days.

the first available number at the end, starting with 1 · « **Reply #109 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:44:14 pm »

From the game against us, he plays more like an Agger than a Škrtel.
Handled Sturridge and Firmino well, so can't complain about that

Also - Is that Kolo Touré recruiting him to be his successor at the end of the game? >.<

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #110 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:54:34 pm »

Quote from: EskilJehn on July 21, 2016, 03:44:14 pm

From the gain against us, he plays more like an Agger than a Škrtel.
Handled Sturridge and Firmino well, so can't complain about that

Also - Is that Kolo Touré recruiting him to be his successor at the end of the game? >.<

No mate, he is trying to sell him a car

Didi_ram · « **Reply #111 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:51:16 pm »

Built like a tank, with superb English like Karius. Fan already !

diegoLFC7 · « **Reply #112 on:** July 21, 2016, 11:02:37 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on July 20, 2016, 09:52:44 pm

Liked his interview. His English is excellent. I think Klopp has signed him knowing that we have been a bit of a soft touch at the back, so Klavan adds a bit more bite. Ragnar the Red.

Yeah i can see that, Lovren will also kill for the club this season. Needs to be named captain.

Purple Red · « **Reply #113 on:** July 21, 2016, 11:14:20 pm »

Quote from: EestiRed on July 21, 2016, 07:40:28 am

Made my account a few weeks ago. Been browsing the forums for 5 years atleast but thought i should probably make an account aswell, didn´t see the spoilered parts in other parts of the forums without an account. Been following Liverpool since 2000-2001, my first football shirt was McManaman´s so maybe i was a fan even before.

So it´s only natural my first post is in the Ragnar Klavan thread(Eesti=Estonia). He is certainly a leader on the pitch, not one to hide away. Some have pointed out that he is a no nonsense defender, built like a tank. His physicality is decent but having watched most of his games for the national team and quite many Augsburg ones during the years i would say he is more of a" ball-playing elegant" defender sort of type. He prefers to pass rather than hoof it, even when getting pressed. He has quite good passing skills(long diagonals), reads the game well. Sakho probably has better passing abilities and is stronger aswell, but i see Ragnar as the more intelligent type when it comes to interceptions and reading the game. Likes to win tackles high up the pitch and press his opponent. There is a chance that more physical forwards could bully him. But then again during the last years many forwards have done the same with Skrtel and also other defenders in Liveprool´s defence. Probably with the addition of Matip and the commanding presence of Sakho that won´t happen again too many times with Klopp´s defence. Can´t remember during the Bundesliga time a single time someone got the better of him so bad that you could count it as bullying. He just takes them down beforehand

It remains to be seen how he can get accustomed to the Premier League and how much more can he develop. I still think Bundesliga and Premier league are quite different so it´s very interesting to see how he can manage when he gets some gametime. If he gets around 15 games in different competitions during the first year and performs solidly then i would call it a certain success considering the money paid. Ofcourse whole of Estonia hopes that he will play many more games and follow in the footsteps of the legendary Finn Hyypia but that is a big ask. Then again Ragnar definitely seems to have the mentality and willpower so best of wishes to him and expect quite a few more Estonians around Liverpool this year

Thanks for that mate.

Going by the video posted above he looks like an impressive defender.

Definitely adds something different to what we currently have. Important to maintain competition at the back as well.

the_red_pill · « **Reply #114 on:** July 21, 2016, 11:37:42 pm »

Quote

“He will bring us really good qualities with his defensive intelligence and ability on the ball and he is a left-footed player so will give us extra balance."

Hmm... everyone likens him to Skrtel, but the boss comes out with this little nugget.

Quote from: thejbs on July 20, 2016, 05:44:44 pm

He's never scored an own-goal in his professional career. So not really a like-for-like with Skrtel then...

Quote from: Irakla on July 20, 2016, 06:46:12 pm

Klavan vs Liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbnz4IHb6-0

He looks boss to be honest, I thought he'd be a real hardman with bad touch, low IQ muscle /hassle merchant and stuff, but at first glance he can play real football and makes very intelligent passes, very shrewd business by Klopp.

Yeah- don't know where the Skrtel comparisons come from really. He's never even eaten a baby in his life yet, FFS. There are only 2 men who can do that: The baby-eating bishop of Bath and Wells and Martin Skrtel.
He appears more Hyypia-like.

crabfootlong · « **Reply #115 on:** July 22, 2016, 01:01:28 am »

I am excited. For most people (atleast outside our fanbase), this looks like a case of (a) adding squad depth or (b) a bad buy because of the age. But I look at what he has done last year in a league that is not very different from ours and I'm excited. I think his contributions could be massive in the next 2 seasons. And I am not talking about being substitute or a stand-in player during injury to others. I genuinely think he would make a name of his own here.

WanderingRed · « **Reply #116 on:** July 22, 2016, 10:52:39 am »

Not seen this posted anywhere but he put this on instagram

Eliit · « **Reply #117 on:** July 22, 2016, 05:26:46 pm »

I'm absolutely sure it isn't his quote and that it isn't his account. It's just so unlike him.

Bobinhood · « **Reply #118 on:** July 23, 2016, 01:25:55 am »

Ragnar! Klaven!
He's our man and he's fucking amazing
Anfields been ravin
About Ragnar the Red.

Ragnar! Klaven!
His eyes are blazin
and he's gonna kick you
right in the head

Ragnar the Red, Ragnar the Red, he's gonna kick you right the head, Ragnar the Red, Ragnar the Red, he's gonna kick you right in the head.

Instant classic

lorenzo · « **Reply #119 on:** July 23, 2016, 03:00:39 am »

Welcome Viking if your half as good as your hit t.v series we got are self a bargain.