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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31960 on: September 11, 2015, 12:08:22 pm »
https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/642291550987358208

@ManUtd - David De Gea has signed a new four-year contract at #mufc with an option to extend for a further year.

Works out perfect for United. Makes the fans and media think theyve kissed and made up, and De Gea was just a little confused and always really loved United. He can play the season in nets without being scrutinized before fucking off to Madrid for a large sum of money next summer or January.

He won't be at Old Trafford this time next year.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31961 on: September 11, 2015, 12:10:00 pm »
Interesting what the buy out clause is ?

Can't see his Agent letting him sign without a reasonable get out clause

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31962 on: September 11, 2015, 12:10:22 pm »
Man Utd want to take their ball home within the city... :P


Manchester City infuriate neighbours by dominating youth market

Rory Smith, Oliver Kay
Last updated at 12:01AM, September 11 2015

Manchester United’s uneasy relationship with Manchester City has soured further because of a dispute over the recruitment of youth players, with the Old Trafford club even going as far as to consider refusing to play their neighbours at academy level.

Though United have stopped short of submitting a formal complaint to the Premier League, they are believed to have expressed their unhappiness at what they perceive as their neighbours’ overzealous recruitment strategy on more than one occasion.

A number of former United players — including Robin van Persie, Phil Neville and Darren Fletcher — have enrolled their sons in their rivals’ academy, while a host of the brightest prospects from across the country have opted to continue their development with City.

United threatened to complain to the Premier League last year after City beat them to a number of players, and the club are thought to have discussed in recent weeks the idea of requesting not to play against City because of their interest in a number of their players, including Angel Gomes, an England Under-16 midfielder.

City and the Premier League, however, have yet to receive any official correspondence on the subject.

Although there remains a question as to how many of their youth players will one day get a chance in City’s first team, the results of the club’s age-group sides this season make it easy to see why so many are opting for the blue half of Manchester.

When the sides faced each other across a variety of age groups this month, City won every fixture apart from one, which was drawn. Their under-14s — national champions at under-13 level last season — beat their United counterparts 9-0. The club’s under-15s began the season by beating Liverpool 6-0, while their under-18s have won all five of their fixtures during this campaign.

That is testament not only to the work of Neil Roberts, Mark Allen and Rodolfo Borrell at the club’s academy, but also to the effectiveness of their approach to recruitment. This season, the club signed Jadon Sancho, a 14-year-old who started at Watford, at a cost of more than £200,000.

City’s connection with St Bede’s College, an elite school in Manchester, has also led to those of the club’s players who took their GCSEs this summer achieving results that were 10 per cent better than the national average, which serves as another considerable attraction to prospective parents.

United’s troubles at youth level extend well beyond displeasure with their neighbours, however. The club are yet to replace Brian McClair, who left his position as academy director in May to become the performance director of the Scottish FA, while the club’s youth scouts are believed to be frustrated at delays in recruitment, which they believe allow their rivals to beat them to the signatures of high-calibre youth prospects.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4553673.ece
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31963 on: September 11, 2015, 12:12:02 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31964 on: September 11, 2015, 12:14:49 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.
More to than wanting a bumper contract , would have gone if contract had been done earlier with Madrid

Believe Madrid had second thoughts or werent 100% committed at the end

He wanted out to Madrid

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31965 on: September 11, 2015, 12:15:13 pm »
Man Utd want to take their ball home within the city... :P


Manchester City infuriate neighbours by dominating youth market


http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4553673.ece

We should be as worried as United... City are doing everything right to dominate British football for a long long time

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31966 on: September 11, 2015, 12:15:29 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.
You're not even the biggest club in Manchester anymore. 

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31967 on: September 11, 2015, 12:17:16 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.

He has done what Sterling should of done and what Luis did.

He will continue to play from them, get a nice pay increase then Madrid will come calling at the end of the season.

Over the next 6 months you will start hearing a release clause in the contract.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31968 on: September 11, 2015, 12:17:41 pm »
Man Utd want to take their ball home within the city... :P




That's generally depressing to read for any club in and around the north west which is relying to any extent on developing local talent. 

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« Reply #31969 on: September 11, 2015, 12:19:29 pm »
Man Utd want to take their ball home within the city... :P


Manchester City infuriate neighbours by dominating youth market

Its should be a warning to all the top English clubs. City are the first new money club to be building effectively both the first team & the foundations. The facilities for youth development is on a different level to competitors & now they are filling it with the best at every age level.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31970 on: September 11, 2015, 12:22:41 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31971 on: September 11, 2015, 12:23:25 pm »
We should be as worried as United... City are doing everything right to dominate British football for a long long time

Yeah and Chelsea have 30 players out on loan.

The problem is you can only play 11, have a squad of 25, and players like to play. So if they don't get playing time, they leave.

Kids will do the same. If the first team manager doesn't promote the youth, what good is it to have the best youth system?

If you promote the youth, give them a chance, and your results ( points wise) are mixed then supporters want the club to go spend millions on the finished product.

However, the real payoff of having a top youth squad is you get to sell most of them to lower division clubs. Which makes the youth set up pay for itself. If you find a gem or two over years, not every year, then it really pays off.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31972 on: September 11, 2015, 12:24:11 pm »
He has done what Sterling should of done and what Luis did.

He will continue to play from them, get a nice pay increase then Madrid will come calling at the end of the season.

Over the next 6 months you will start hearing a release clause in the contract.

I'd expect a low release clause to be leaked ( £10/15m) probably only if Madrid or Barca come calling

Not 100% sure Madrid are committed to getting him as most think , that may change if their present keeper doesn't keep his good form up

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31973 on: September 11, 2015, 12:24:25 pm »
He will be gone next summer.Let the mancs dream that they will keep him.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31974 on: September 11, 2015, 12:25:32 pm »
He will be gone next summer.Let the mancs dream that they will keep him.
I wouldn't be so sure

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31975 on: September 11, 2015, 12:27:23 pm »
Definitely still some tension there between De Gea and United.

I think it's the first ever contract renewal/transfer PR statement I've seen released from them where the player hasn't used the "biggest team in the world" line.

He's rebelling. Head's been turned.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31976 on: September 11, 2015, 12:29:28 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.

Mendez would be foolish to not have a buy out clause that meets Real Madrids wishes.

And the word in Madrid, not just Marca, is David wants to move home, his girlfriend wants him there, and RM is the team he wants to play for.

Like Suarez, the player will get his wish.
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« Reply #31977 on: September 11, 2015, 12:30:17 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised with a low release clause either .... Luis had years left on his current contract when he wanted out to Arsenal, DDG was down to 6 months away from signing a pre-contract elsewhere.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31978 on: September 11, 2015, 12:37:32 pm »
Is this a good time to mention that his save % from the first half of last season was unsustainable and that he dropped off/reverted to the mean quite a bit in the second half.... you know for moral

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31979 on: September 11, 2015, 12:41:17 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.

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« Reply #31980 on: September 11, 2015, 12:44:11 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.


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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31981 on: September 11, 2015, 12:44:21 pm »
Whatever way I look at it , Utd have done well to keep him even if only for one more season


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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31982 on: September 11, 2015, 12:44:25 pm »
I wouldn't be so sure

are you on a wind up?  ;D He definitely  gone in the summer.

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« Reply #31983 on: September 11, 2015, 12:45:17 pm »
They think they have fucked over Madrid. Thats the funny thing.

Real Madrid will get their way, United will get one more season from DDG. If anyone thinks their isn't a get out clause in that new contract they are delusional.
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« Reply #31984 on: September 11, 2015, 12:49:51 pm »
are you on a wind up?  ;D He definitely  gone in the summer.
no


If betting I'd say gone , but I'm not so sure Madrid are 100% committed

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31985 on: September 11, 2015, 12:55:33 pm »
De Gea pulling a 'Ramos' to perfection... using Real Madrid's interest as leverage for a bumper new contract at the biggest club in the world.
You're not wrong, the contract Madrid will give him will be massive.
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« Reply #31986 on: September 11, 2015, 12:58:08 pm »
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« Reply #31987 on: September 11, 2015, 01:04:03 pm »
Must have a buy put clause
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« Reply #31988 on: September 11, 2015, 01:17:03 pm »
It's done for a year and they have a great goalie again.
Whatever happens next year, we have the fuckers tomorrow; and having DeGea in th enets is as massive boost for them as missing Countinho is a blow for us.

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« Reply #31989 on: September 11, 2015, 01:22:10 pm »
Worth every penny when he lets 5 in this weekend

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« Reply #31990 on: September 11, 2015, 01:23:43 pm »
Yeah and Chelsea have 30 players out on loan.

The problem is you can only play 11, have a squad of 25, and players like to play. So if they don't get playing time, they leave.

Kids will do the same. If the first team manager doesn't promote the youth, what good is it to have the best youth system?

If you promote the youth, give them a chance, and your results ( points wise) are mixed then supporters want the club to go spend millions on the finished product.

However, the real payoff of having a top youth squad is you get to sell most of them to lower division clubs. Which makes the youth set up pay for itself. If you find a gem or two over years, not every year, then it really pays off.

This is exactly it isn't it - they can invest in the youth structure all they want. Have a fancy youth academy and stadium which they can get one of their owners mates to sponsor for £100m a season, spend silly money attracting the best youth players of all ages, but if they then don't handle the tricky progression from youth set up to first team then it's all for nothing.

We've seen Chelsea have great youth teams for a while now, and great players within those youth sides, yet how many youth players have they brought through to become a regular? Zero since a near 35 year old Terry is the answer.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31991 on: September 11, 2015, 01:32:00 pm »
Either we are a club of supporters or become a club of customers.

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« Reply #31992 on: September 11, 2015, 01:34:11 pm »
no


If betting I'd say gone , but I'm not so sure Madrid are 100% committed

There's a chance he feels messed about by Real and is pissed off with them. He could have signed a pre contract in a few months yet he's just made the signing more difficult and more expensive for Real by doing this.
Not convinced at all he's definitely off now.

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« Reply #31993 on: September 11, 2015, 01:42:20 pm »
For all the bluster, I still think there's probably a release clause. Although the deal being 4+1 makes me question that a bit.

It won't be low though. Instead of a lowball move to Madrid, they'll probably be cashing in at least £30m if there is release clause. Wouldn't make sense to pay him an extra £8m + any signing/performance bonuses over the next year if there wasn't something in it for them.

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« Reply #31994 on: September 11, 2015, 01:47:55 pm »
United have done well here. Watch him have a stormer tomorrow now.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31996 on: September 11, 2015, 01:50:12 pm »
Whatever way I look at it , Utd have done well to keep him even if only for one more season


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By paying him £200k a week and backdating it a year ??? If they had sorted his contract out a year ago, it would have cost a lot less than that.

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« Reply #31997 on: September 11, 2015, 01:53:34 pm »
By paying him £200k a week and backdating it a year ???

If they're backdating his wages a year, then yeah, I'd accept that he probably doesn't have a release clause - or it's a massive one.

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« Reply #31998 on: September 11, 2015, 01:53:37 pm »
I remember Suarez signing a new contract. Good times.

They have done well to get him for another year but many of their fans seem to think they've secured his long term future  :rollseyes
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31999 on: September 11, 2015, 02:09:42 pm »
If all the reports about his missus wanting to be in Madrid are true, then there is no chance what so ever that there isn't a release clause.

£200k, even back dated a year, is hardly going to be that much of a financial incentive (given he'd get that sort of pay at Madrid, plus a signing on fee which is like getting that pay for the last 2 years) to give up moving there for at least the next 3 or 4 years, at a time where Madrid need a new keeper.