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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7400 on: October 1, 2024, 09:39:49 pm »
i mistook that that was your opinion sorry. hope you're right and it plays out that we spend more on wages (for squad improvements and renewals). thought Slots post match comments about having same squad as Klopp with great foundations but no record yet of being able to play twice a week (with much less rotation as it's Champions League level now) were quite pointed. hopefully he asserts himself more and manages to convince his bosses to support him with squad improvements at the second time of asking

We should have money for improved contracts and to buy a couple of top quality players over the next few windows (caveated what happens with the "big 3"), around a 60-62% wage to revenue ratio is what we've maintained for a long time so with that in mind and revenue going to spike upwards with CL footie we have a lot of flexibility.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=356066.msg19646152#msg19646152

Slot doesn't mince his words, I get why we didn't push in the summer gone but there aren't any reasons why now we shouldn't be continuing to strengthen as we need going forward.

It was very obvious that wages had dropped and I'm not sure why Draex was so insistently pushing back on it with multiple people in this thread. I'm glad he's now admitted he was wrong.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7401 on: October 1, 2024, 11:41:48 pm »
We should have money for improved contracts and to buy a couple of top quality players over the next few windows (caveated what happens with the "big 3"), around a 60-62% wage to revenue ratio is what we've maintained for a long time so with that in mind and revenue going to spike upwards with CL footie we have a lot of flexibility.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=356066.msg19646152#msg19646152

Slot doesn't mince his words, I get why we didn't push in the summer gone but there aren't any reasons why now we shouldn't be continuing to strengthen as we need going forward.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7402 on: October 2, 2024, 07:24:05 am »
I think Knight's problem was his mum telling her little soldier that he's always right. "Of course, son, you could be King of the world one day if everyone listened."

Don’t you have a bag of dried lavender to munch on? ;)

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7403 on: October 2, 2024, 07:25:57 am »
I think Knight's problem was his mum telling her little soldier that he's always right. "Of course, son, you could be King of the world one day if everyone listened."

It’s been very hard for me.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7404 on: October 2, 2024, 01:45:46 pm »
It’s been very hard for me.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7405 on: October 2, 2024, 05:18:12 pm »
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7406 on: October 2, 2024, 05:19:54 pm »
Don’t you have a bag of dried lavender to munch on? ;)

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7407 on: October 2, 2024, 05:20:18 pm »
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7408 on: October 7, 2024, 05:52:18 pm »


Could be FSG related as they've been rumoured to buy a second club and 2 of them from this list.

https://xcancel.com/JosimarFotball/status/1843231091299414469

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7409 on: October 7, 2024, 05:58:25 pm »

Could be FSG related as they've been rumoured to buy a second club and 2 of them from this list.

https://xcancel.com/JosimarFotball/status/1843231091299414469

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7410 on: October 7, 2024, 06:01:17 pm »
Liege and Vasco were the rumours mate. Not heard about the Berlin club.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7411 on: October 8, 2024, 09:42:59 am »
Strange that we haven't heard any big moves yet to proceed with more clubs, apart from the Bordeaux opportunity.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7412 on: October 8, 2024, 11:30:45 am »
Strange that we haven't heard any big moves yet to proceed with more clubs, apart from the Bordeaux opportunity.

They take ages to sign footballers. It will be decades before they sign another football club. Thats good news to be honest.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7413 on: October 22, 2024, 05:59:59 pm »
Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from new Adidas kit deal

German company to replace Nike from 2025-26 season
Adidas beat Nike and Puma to sign five-year contract deal


Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from new Adidas kit deal
German company to replace Nike from 2025-26 season
Adidas beat Nike and Puma to sign five-year contract deal

Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from a new kit deal with Adidas that will come into effect from the start of the 2025-26 season.

The German sports company is to replace Nike as Liverpool’s kit supplier when Nike’s five-year contract expires. Adidas, which last supplied Liverpool’s kit between 2006 and 2012, won a tender process for a five-year contract against Nike and Puma.

The club believe it will bring their kit earnings into line with Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea, who all receive about £60m-£65m from deals with Adidas, Puma and Nike respectively.

Liverpool receive £30m a year from Nike as a guaranteed base figure. With commercial tie-ins, performance-related bonuses and 20% royalty payments on net sales of replica sportswear, promoted by people such as the basketball star and Liverpool shareholder LeBron James, the total can be closer to £60m a season.

The Premier League record is the £90m a season that Manchester United receive from Adidas.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/oct/22/liverpool-leipzig-slot-adidas-kit-deal
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7414 on: October 22, 2024, 06:02:48 pm »
Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from new Adidas kit deal

German company to replace Nike from 2025-26 season
Adidas beat Nike and Puma to sign five-year contract deal


Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from new Adidas kit deal
German company to replace Nike from 2025-26 season
Adidas beat Nike and Puma to sign five-year contract deal

Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from a new kit deal with Adidas that will come into effect from the start of the 2025-26 season.

The German sports company is to replace Nike as Liverpool’s kit supplier when Nike’s five-year contract expires. Adidas, which last supplied Liverpool’s kit between 2006 and 2012, won a tender process for a five-year contract against Nike and Puma.

The club believe it will bring their kit earnings into line with Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea, who all receive about £60m-£65m from deals with Adidas, Puma and Nike respectively.

Liverpool receive £30m a year from Nike as a guaranteed base figure. With commercial tie-ins, performance-related bonuses and 20% royalty payments on net sales of replica sportswear, promoted by people such as the basketball star and Liverpool shareholder LeBron James, the total can be closer to £60m a season.

The Premier League record is the £90m a season that Manchester United receive from Adidas.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/oct/22/liverpool-leipzig-slot-adidas-kit-deal

It'll surely be above that of Arsenal, City and Chelsea. If not the commercial dept have done a fucking shite job.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7415 on: October 22, 2024, 06:10:02 pm »
Why is it so much less than Utd?

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7416 on: October 22, 2024, 06:10:22 pm »
It'll surely be above that of Arsenal, City and Chelsea. If not the commercial dept have done a fucking shite job.

Wouldn’t underestimate Arsenal’s ability to earn from gear. They make a lot of stuff that appeal to casuals and non football fans. They’ve had some Stella McCartney and Maharishi collaborations.

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« Reply #7417 on: October 22, 2024, 06:11:36 pm »
Wouldn’t underestimate Arsenal’s ability to earn from gear. They make a lot of stuff that appeal to casuals and non football fans. They’ve had some Stella McCartney and Maharishi collaborations.

Those aren't anything to do with Adidas though :D

Most places online seem to think Arsenal signed a new £75m deal in Oct 22, so that's surely the benchmark at a min.

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« Reply #7418 on: October 22, 2024, 06:12:04 pm »
Those aren't anything to do with Adidas though :D

Of course they are, they were sold via the adidas website.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7419 on: October 22, 2024, 06:13:01 pm »
Arsenal must have the grown man kit market well under control. Swear to god whenever they play at the Emirates most adult supporters seem to be wearing a replica top, it's not just the kids like you get at other clubs. Just an observation.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7420 on: October 22, 2024, 06:13:07 pm »

Wtf we should be receiving more than UTD. Big fail.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7421 on: October 22, 2024, 06:13:22 pm »
Of course they are, they were sold via the adidas website.

Most the casual stuff, going by what's on the Arsenal website, isn't Adidas stuff.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7422 on: October 22, 2024, 06:14:50 pm »
Most the casual stuff, going by what's on the Arsenal website, isn't Adidas stuff.

Don’t know about that stuff, but the ones that I was on about were collaborations with adidas that were clearly aimed at non Arsenal fans.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7423 on: October 22, 2024, 06:19:01 pm »
Just give us some decent training gear without that shitty AXA logo on. Preferably in that green shade for the supposed 3rd kit with the Trefoil logo on, ta  :wave :wanker
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7424 on: October 22, 2024, 06:22:23 pm »
Wouldn’t underestimate Arsenal’s ability to earn from gear. They make a lot of stuff that appeal to casuals and non football fans. They’ve had some Stella McCartney and Maharishi collaborations.

That would be something that Adidas arrange rather than what Arsenal arrange though. So not sure their kit deal should be inflated for that reason are Adidas are doing all the work.

Could just be a London exposure tax whacked on there.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7425 on: October 22, 2024, 06:37:55 pm »
United fleeced Adidas on that kit deal.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7426 on: October 22, 2024, 07:28:03 pm »
Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from new Adidas kit deal

German company to replace Nike from 2025-26 season
Adidas beat Nike and Puma to sign five-year contract deal


Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from new Adidas kit deal
German company to replace Nike from 2025-26 season
Adidas beat Nike and Puma to sign five-year contract deal

Liverpool expect to make more than £60m a year from a new kit deal with Adidas that will come into effect from the start of the 2025-26 season.

The German sports company is to replace Nike as Liverpool’s kit supplier when Nike’s five-year contract expires. Adidas, which last supplied Liverpool’s kit between 2006 and 2012, won a tender process for a five-year contract against Nike and Puma.

The club believe it will bring their kit earnings into line with Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea, who all receive about £60m-£65m from deals with Adidas, Puma and Nike respectively.

Liverpool receive £30m a year from Nike as a guaranteed base figure. With commercial tie-ins, performance-related bonuses and 20% royalty payments on net sales of replica sportswear, promoted by people such as the basketball star and Liverpool shareholder LeBron James, the total can be closer to £60m a season.

The Premier League record is the £90m a season that Manchester United receive from Adidas.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/oct/22/liverpool-leipzig-slot-adidas-kit-deal
It might be commission-based like the Nike deal because the wording of "over" £60m indicates that. We were coy about how much we really earned from Nike for some reason. The same probably applies here.

If it's a flat rate then I'd expect them to report the actual figure.  I just don't see the club changing suppliers for less than what we really earned from Nike.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7427 on: October 22, 2024, 07:31:38 pm »
Arsenal must have the grown man kit market well under control. Swear to god whenever they play at the Emirates most adult supporters seem to be wearing a replica top, it's not just the kids like you get at other clubs. Just an observation.
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« Reply #7428 on: October 22, 2024, 07:43:26 pm »
I think 60% of their revenue comes from this bellend.  He always seems to be wearing half the club shop.



Hahaha, walked past him on Anfield Road years ago, official club headphones and all. If you can buy Arsenal boxer shorts I'd wager he has several pairs.



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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7429 on: October 22, 2024, 07:46:09 pm »
I think 60% of their revenue comes from this bellend.  He always seems to be wearing half the club shop.



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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7430 on: October 22, 2024, 07:50:40 pm »
Wtf we should be receiving more than UTD. Big fail.

Adidas obviously had their fingers burnt with that deal, that shower ruined it for us

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7431 on: October 22, 2024, 08:06:11 pm »
Why is it so much less than Utd?

They signed a 10 year deal.

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« Reply #7432 on: October 22, 2024, 09:01:34 pm »
Do united not get less when out of the cl or something like that?

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« Reply #7433 on: October 22, 2024, 09:06:38 pm »
Do united not get less when out of the cl or something like that?

Think it's -£10m if they fail to get in the CL for 2 successive seasons.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7434 on: October 22, 2024, 09:14:00 pm »
It was,reported I think the season we did the Cup double that we got £120 million that season from Nike.

It has to be £60 million plus 20% royalty payments from Merch sales.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7435 on: October 22, 2024, 09:20:18 pm »
It was,reported I think the season we did the Cup double that we got £120 million that season from Nike.

It has to be £60 million plus 20% royalty payments from Merch sales.

Yeah the normal commission rate is 7.5% of Net merchandise sales. With the Nike deal we had 20% net commission, plus a bonus for winning the CL.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7436 on: October 22, 2024, 10:56:23 pm »
It was,reported I think the season we did the Cup double that we got £120 million that season from Nike.

It has to be £60 million plus 20% royalty payments from Merch sales.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7437 on: October 23, 2024, 12:58:02 am »
Wtf we should be receiving more than UTD. Big fail.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7438 on: October 23, 2024, 08:50:19 am »
believed to be worth well over £100m a year in reality (apparently)

Yeah Mo Chatra on Twitter reckons it'll be in excess of £100m a year which sounds about right.


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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #7439 on: October 23, 2024, 08:50:59 am »
Just give us some decent training gear without that shitty AXA logo on. Preferably in that green shade for the supposed 3rd kit with the Trefoil logo on, ta  :wave :wanker

Good luck with that when AXA sponsor the training ground and kits until 2029