Topic: The Horse Racing thread

[Barneylfc∗]

Ignore him. He doesn't know what he's saying 😉

Agree with this 

As long as yous get the best price you can, what difference does it make sharing in here?

[Fiasco]

I doubt Constitution Hill will run now, if he has an infection given a poor workout and signs of mucus then a 2 week turnaround isn't going to do it especially how careful Nicky and the owners are about him.

They've wrapped him in cotton wool for Cheltenham and now it is nearly here it looks as if they wont be able to run him anyway. Nicky apparently said it could clear up pretty quickly but then you're still taking a chance with him. State Man backers would fancy their charge up against an undercooked/not 100 percent Constitution Hill.

[Cormack Snr]

Thanks lads, I agree with you all but something else has happened now. We have been restricted by one bookie and had BOG taken off another after only just over two weeks. The fella putting it on said he's lost all his life and the minute he starts winning he gets banned. We will be on to new bookies and then Betfair if this carries on.

This has only cost us £19.99 for 30 days racing and I won't advertise it here but 1892 asked me where he could find Billy Liddell and I told him a couple of pages back.

I am under pressure not to give the bets here anymore but for anyone interested Billy Liddell up-dates results every day .

My son said it takes ages to put £250-£300 on Betfair in the morning unless you leave it.

[carl123uk]

You'll get limited by most bookies within as few as 10/15 bets. Need loads of accounts and even use shops as well for decent stakes

[Barneylfc∗]

Thanks lads, I agree with you all but something else has happened now. We have been restricted by one bookie and had BOG taken off another after only just over two weeks. The fella putting it on said he's lost all his life and the minute he starts winning he gets banned. We will be on to new bookies and then Betfair if this carries on.

This has only cost us £19.99 for 30 days racing and I won't advertise it here but 1892 asked me where he could find Billy Liddell and I told him a couple of pages back.

I am under pressure not to give the bets here anymore but for anyone interested Billy Liddell up-dates results every day .

My son said it takes ages to put £250-£300 on Betfair in the morning unless you leave it.

That's not really much of a surprise given the stakes you're saying they put on.
Obviously I don't know the guy, but if he's been doing £10 football accas here and there or even a few quid on horses and rarely wins, suddenly chucking £250 on horses every day is going to raise suspicions with the traders.

[duvva 💅]

Thanks lads, I agree with you all but something else has happened now. We have been restricted by one bookie and had BOG taken off another after only just over two weeks. The fella putting it on said he's lost all his life and the minute he starts winning he gets banned. We will be on to new bookies and then Betfair if this carries on.

This has only cost us £19.99 for 30 days racing and I won't advertise it here but 1892 asked me where he could find Billy Liddell and I told him a couple of pages back.

I am under pressure not to give the bets here anymore but for anyone interested Billy Liddell up-dates results every day .

My son said it takes ages to put £250-£300 on Betfair in the morning unless you leave it.

Ah I did wonder how long it would be before you were facing restrictions etc. bookies don’t like winners, and clamp down pretty quickly these days.

Fingers crossed you’re able get enough on at betfair going forward. Failing that you’ll have to start going into local shops on a rota

[Cormack Snr]

Lads, its our lad for our syndicate putting on only £25 for us that's been restricted, we have backed 11 winners out of 15 but I don't know which bookies took the most. The £250 has been put on Betfair exchange in the morning by my son's syndicate.

[Cormack Snr]

I just want to say Billy hit the bookies for six and sent this today..  WON 7/2 from 11/4

Ignác Lamár was a renowned Bratislava street character in the mid-20th century but tonight Mathew at 8-30 bells the 4yr old bay is going to be a speedy 6f sprinter who will hopefully darken the winners enclosure again.

A return to form at the end of January from a poor draw when slowly away and detached until making headway and then finishing fast should sharpen up Jim Goldie's charge who was 15lbs higher this time last year.

The only horse tonight for the stable and ridden by Robert Havlin again this CD Winner off 10lbs higher will hopefully be more prominent this time just behind the leaders from a better draw with the likes of May Remain, Due Date and Dapper Man doing the leg work for our fella to make the long journey back to Bonny Scotland more enjoyable..

[duvva 💅]

Doesn’t sound positive re Constitution Hill, reckon it’s far more likely he doesn’t run.

[Cormack Snr]

We got a message to say Billy Liddell has been suspended and banned by ebay for asking would we be interested in a WhatsApp group to get the bets quicker. He has my mates email so we are still getting the bets.
We had our first loser today after a run of six winners, got beat by a 1/2 length into 3rd. We have another tonight which has gone from our bet of 11/2 into 3/1.

Super Over 8-15 Dundalk

[1892tillforever]

Was at Leopardstown. Lovely quiet day with sunshine! Zero favourites won. Minor miracle that I picked some winners and overlooked a long shot winner obviously! Predicted one race almost perfectly as both my fancies ran miles clear of everyone barring one complete donkey that won 

[duvva 💅]

https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/cheltenham-festival/constitution-hill-will-not-defend-champion-hurdle-crown-as-nicky-henderson-rules-star-out-of-the-festival-avyPz8f9pm1T/

Not a big surprise after last weeks news

[Andy2508]

Such a shame about CH. Even more so that we’ve not seen much of him as they’ve been keeping him wrapped up for Cheltenham, never understood owners and trainers not running horses when they’re fit.

On another note - where do we think Ballyburn will run? See he’s drifted in the market for the Supreme this morning. It’s quite jarring looking through the form without knowing who’s going where a week before the festival starts!

[duvva 💅]

Such a shame about CH. Even more so that we’ve not seen much of him as they’ve been keeping him wrapped up for Cheltenham, never understood owners and trainers not running horses when they’re fit.

On another note - where do we think Ballyburn will run? See he’s drifted in the market for the Supreme this morning. It’s quite jarring looking through the form without knowing who’s going where a week before the festival starts!

Always difficult trying to second guess Mullins. It’s destroying the festival for me so many horses under one roof - he’s got the Fav in 17 races!
I’m still wondering which way they’ll go with Gaelic Warrior too.

[duvva 💅]

https://www.racingpost.com/news/ireland/it-will-repair-itself-but-he-needs-six-weeks-arkle-favourite-marine-nationale-to-miss-cheltenham-after-setback-al5od7g3rqT8/
Didn’t take long for the next one to go

No Marine Nationale now

[Cormack Snr]

We got back into the winners enclosure at the weekend with a 4/1 winner on Saturday and a 5/2 coming good on Sunday from only two bets.
Few of us went out for a drink last night and watched it win, still can't believe our luck, my wife's never been in such a good mood.

My son joined on the 4th and I started posting them on here after we started on the 9th

2nd Feb Irish Rumour 2nd 3/1
2nd Feb Orange N Blue 2nd 7/2
4th Feb Sassy Redhead WON 9/4
4th Feb Glamourous Express Unp 4/1
5th Feb Laheg WON 9/4
5th Feb Oliver Snow WON 13/2
5th Feb Moon Flight WON 9/2.
5th Feb Pockley Unp 5/1
6th Feb Jungle Dance WON 3/1
6th Glory Dancer 3rd 5/1
7th Feb Ahlain WON 5/1
7th Feb Egoist 2nd 4/1
8th Feb So Chic 3rd 7/2
9th Feb Cabeza De Llave WON 9/4
9th Feb Due Date WON 5/2
10th Feb Pallas Lord WON 2/1
11th Feb NO BET
12th Feb Great Blasket 4th 7/2
12th Feb Darlo Pride WON 5/2
13th Feb Sibyl Charm 2nd 3/1
14th Feb Grigio WON 2/1
15th Feb Tortured Soul WON 2/1
16th NO BET
17th Nordic Glory Unp 5/2f
19th Goldsmith 4th 7/2
19th Neptune Legend WON 9/4
20th NO BET
21st Cephalus WON 13/8
22nd Phoenix Star WON 3/1
23rd Goldsmith WON 2/1
24th NO BET
25th NO BET
26th Gustav Graves WON 7/2
27th Ignac Lamar Won 7/2
28th NO BET
29th NO BET

MARCH

1st Batal Dubai 3rd 7/2- 7/4
1st Super Over 3rd 11/2 - 3/1
2nd Grenham Bay Won 4/1
3rd Abaaj WON 5/2
4th  NO BET

[duvva 💅]

Nice to see the run continuing Cormack

One for the rest of us with Cheltenham on the horizon

https://www.gaultstats.com/

Stats/Trends page usually helps turn up some good pointers

[Cormack Snr]

Thanks duvva, looks good..

[carl123uk]

Thanks duvva, looks good..

Southwell 8-00 Young Endless

[duvva 💅]

Southwell 8-00 Young Endless

This one of your own, or are you now one of Billy’s disciples?  Either way nice result

[carl123uk]

This one of your own, or are you now one of Billy’s disciples?  Either way nice result

Me and a mate went in together

[duvva 💅]

Me and a mate went in together

Might consider it myself after Cheltenham, but don’t want to get any last minute restrictions.

The strike rate is phenomenal

[Barneylfc∗]

Southwell 8-00 Young Endless

Nice one Carl. Missed this, but will keep an eye out for the next

[Cormack Snr]

Won easy didn't it Carl, there was a loser yesterday that was backed into 5/2f  from 5/1 only to finish 4th back out to 11/2.
None today.

Carl, can I ask where you joined with Billy Liddell banned on eBay.

[Cormack Snr]

We have a mate who we call Lucky Jim, not that clever and average looking. He won the lottery , has a £70,000 a year job and his wife looks like the miss world who was a bond girl. Think Souness went out with her.
He joined Billy Liddell and has had 9 winners and 1 loser because he
 missed the two losers when he was away in London

[gary75]

Won easy didn't it Carl, there was a loser yesterday that was backed into 5/2f  from 5/1 only to finish 4th back out to 11/2.
None today.

Carl, can I ask where you joined with Billy Liddell banned on eBay.

He's not too hard to find to be honest, a quick look an Google brings up a thread you started on here back in 2011 about Billy!
And his Ebay username is a few results further down, it appears he is still active on there.

[Cormack Snr]

Thanks Gary

He got banned for asking about WhatsApp, I followed him on Betfair forum quite a few years ago because of the name. He had a 100pts winning thread but I could never catch him right. Making up for it now though.

[Cormack Snr]

Just found thread,

On here 13 yrs ago..

There is someone on the Betfair horse racing forum called Billy Liddell giving tips if anyone is interested, it looks like he has inside information and is close to £900 up for the past month. I've been dipping in and out with the bets but from tomorrow I'm putting a fiver on each. Here are his results..

I couldn't catch him right, backing them all now though

Haarth Sovereign
Sparky May  Won 7/1
Red Mile
Notus De La Tour
Frascati Park
Arctic Lynx Won 5/1
Mahogany Blaze
Beau Fighter
Revelator
Faldal
Low Delta
Gift Of Dgab
Politeo
Pie Poudre
State General
Brouhaha
Paddys Honour
Van Wyck
Everaard Won 8/1
Charming Lad
French Art
Wishes Or Watches
Canaly Fairy Won 7/1
Norville
Droim Toll
Absolute Shambles
Tymismoni
Justcallmehandsome
Zafeen Speed Won 4/1
Sertao
Eltheeb
Desert Strike Won 6/1
Tuskar Rock Won 5/1
Hide The Evidence
Maximix
Lady Bling Bling
Twin Soul Won 6/1
What Katie Did
Prohibition
Bold Bomber Won 7/1
The Quantum Kid
Crackerjack Lad
Provost
Bertie May
Elijah Pepper
Pilgrim Dancer
Randolph OBrien
Inquisitress
Gekko
Winterwood Won 3/1
Heez A Steel
Petomic  Won 15/2
King of Connacht
Sir Nod
Tudor Prince
Diamond Twister
Brigadore
Far From Old
Paint The Town Red
Nubar Boy
Night Lilly Won 8/1
Bold Diva
13/2, 7/1 EW 1/2 pt double.. Won 1st & 3rd
Baccalaureate
1/2pt EW DOUBLE  12/1 & 7/2  BOG
Border Lad Won  11/1
Livvy Inn
Kildonnan
Jewellery
Beau Fighter
Acosta  Won 7/1
Trooper Clarence
Stand Guard
Grey Boy
Sundown Trail Won 6/1
Panama at once
Simple Rhythm
Silver wind
Russian Flag Won 15/2
Carnival Dream

43pts Profit


1st  Italian Tom WON  11/2
3RD Door boy 8/1
Satwa gold
3RD Hassanali  6/1
2ND BUDDY HOLLY  4/1
DREAM CATCHER
BREAKHEART
Hail Caesar
Fell Railway Park
Haarth Sovereign WON 5/1
Or Sing About
3RD Byron Bear  10/1
2ND Rocker
1st  Seamies Dream WON  8/1
Gentle Ranger
Meanus Dandy
1ST POKER DE SIVOLA WON 12/1
Diamond Shower
Crosby Jemma
The Shy Man
Screaming Brave
1ST Ventura Sands  WON 7/2
Klynch
LADY FLORENCE
Cavitie WON 7/1
Miles of Sunshine
Hail Promenader WON  7/1
Ellerslie Tom PULLED UP
3RD HASSANALI
3RDCaptain Carey
2ND Tisfreetdream  10/1
Midnight Manhattan
1st  Enderby Spirit WON 9/1
Sherman McCoy
Danderek WON  6/1
2ND Clouds End
1st  Houston Dynimo  6/1

[Cormack Snr]

Our last horse won last night at Dundalk at 100/30 with another backed from 9/1 -5/1 into 7/2 finishing 5th

50% Strike rate in March with 8 bets with 4/1, 3/1, 100/30, 5/2 winners

There is one tonight  THE DEFIANT 7-00   9/4

[duvva 💅]

Still banging them in. Lovely to see for you all

[Cormack Snr]

  The Defiant  Won 9/4 - 6/4

MARCH

1st Batal Dubai 3rd 7/2- 7/4
1st Super Over 3rd 11/2 - 3/1
2nd Grenham Bay  WON 4/1
3rd Abaaj  WON 5/2
4th  NO BET
5th Young Endless  WON 3/1
6th Ravenglass  4th 11/2
7th   No BET
8th Warminster 5th 5/1
8th Super Over  WON 100/30
9th The Defiant  WON 9/4

[Cormack Snr]

Thanks duvva, have a great week at Cheltenham..

[duvva 💅]

Thanks duvva, have a great week at Cheltenham..

Not going this year but have got the week off to watch it.

[duvva 💅]

If you’re as confident as me about Gaelic Warrior. William Hills are offering 11/2 to win by over 3 lengths

[liversaint]

Got an update last night from my mate who has a connection with the Venetia Williams yard. paraphrasing a little, he says that all her entries have been made on the basis of being competitive of running to at least a place and not just for an owners day out, some are quite well handicapped with ground conditions to suit. L'Homme Presse is as fit as its been and the ground is expected to be fine.

Dont blame me if you back them and they run like drains...

[1892tillforever]

If you’re as confident as me about Gaelic Warrior. William Hills are offering 11/2 to win by over 3 lengths

I'm not confident about GW! He will be put under pressure, and I'm unsure whether his jumping will hold in those circumstances.

Also, I'd be wary of Lossiemouth at odds on. The class act for sure but there's never any guarantees that going up in trip, especially in a festival environment on soft ground, will lead to success. She will probably win by about 14 lengths now 

Daft bet consideration is Colonel Mustard to finish top 3 in the 3:30. He's used to finishing behind State Man and is unlikely to try and win the race. The likes of Irish Point may try to stay with State Man and gas out, allowing Mustard to pick up the pieces and get a distant third 

[1892tillforever]

Shows what I know! Jumped well and was always winning if that happened. I'd love to know what happened at Leopardstown the last day!

[duvva 💅]

Shows what I know! Jumped well and was always winning if that happened. I'd love to know what happened at Leopardstown the last day!

Got some engine. Hood really helped stop him going right. The last day was the only thing that gave me doubts, but pleased with that. Week made

[1892tillforever]

Got some engine. Hood really helped stop him going right. The last day was the only thing that gave me doubts, but pleased with that. Week made

I've checked your picks and am depressed that I only have one the same as you; going to be a long day!

[duvva 💅]

I've checked your picks and am depressed that I only have one the same as you; going to be a long day!

To be fair he was my make or break horse for the week. Was convinced he was as good as that and last time he just didn’t fire for whatever reason.
I wouldn’t be all that confident about much else today, other than State Man