Topic: Football Italia Draft Final: red1977 vs surfer

[NICHOLLS]

Player evaluation: only performances from the 1992-93 season onwards are to be evaluated (including domestic cup and European Cup competitions).

Choose your winner!

__________________________________________Final: red1977 vs surfer___________________________________________

red1977                                      V                                           surfer

[A scaleXtric DraeX Xmas]

I've gone red, I think Gattuso is one of the best Serie A midfielders of all time, I love me a proper hard fucker, everywhere is even / cancels eachother out and none Real Ronaldo is a real vote no go.

Very close though, would be an incredible match to watch.

[Samie]

Lads, my vote can't be bought... 

[A weatherfield winter wonderland]

I should vote for Red. After all he beat the best side in the Draft in the opening game so his team must have something about them.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Ok...

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

I should vote for Red. After all he beat the best side in the Draft in the opening game so his team must have something about them.

But you won't. Because you're a good person who definitely doesn't remember who cost you the last draft.

Every day's a new day.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Lads, my vote can't be bought... 

Of course not, it's all mine. Plz.

Sorry red, it's a final .

[Samie]

This is what we needed in final for years...a bit of begging. 

[red1977]

Its slipping away!!. Where's my wife when I need her.

[child-in-time]

Voted for surfer. I think his front three will make the difference. I like red's team too, but both Perisic and Candreva are defensively suspect and I think Savicevic and Ronaldo, overlapped by Oddo and Favalli, will exploit that. And while Gattuso and Emerson are able to cover for them, this will only open up the midfield for Stankovic to run in behind Il Fenomeno.

[red1977]

So who's picking up Baggio?

[child-in-time]

So who's picking up Baggio?

I think surfer's team would be quite compact when defending, his defenders compliment each other well and his wing-backs were a consistent 7 out of 10 each game players. Of course, when caught on the break, it's only natural Baggio and Hamsik would punish them. But in fact I don't see surfer's team being on the front foot often, his team is not built to play like that imo. I favour him to win it because his system and front three are more capable to exploit the weaknesses (mentioned before) of the opposing side.

[red1977]

With Baggio as the 10 / SS either a centre half steps out or a mid drops deep otherwise he gets on the ball in space a lot. I'ts a midfield two so they don't have the personnel for a midfielder to keep tabs on him.

If Baggio pulls a centre half out then it can become a back two if the wingbacks are not tucked in, With Baggio deeper and my midfield 3 he is heavily out numbered in midfield, So with respect, he won't win the midfield battle. He has more width with wing backs and wide forwards, but neither of his wide forwards want to play wide, Savicevic played centre and the preening one in serie A did too. So to my mind your going to get Savicevic going to look for the ball more centrally where Gattusso or Emerson can pick him up. The two Ronaldo's are a big problem because of their quality and to be honest its some strike force and I can't see my team keeping them quiet and thats the big strength for Surfers team imo. but they will both want to play through the middle so the width advantage is up for debate, unless Ronaldo and Savicevic stay disciplined, if they do then it's a problem because the space is there behind Pericic and Candreva although both did play wing back in Serie A, but are more wingers than anything.

Anyway, thats my tuppence. Usually I don't add to much to any debate during voting because everyone knows their stuff here and my opinion will do little to change things, but its good to look at it a bit more tactically rather than just vote for the team with the best players man for man which I find my self doing quite a bit 

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Yep, well observed.

It's all good, love hearing the thinking behind the team construction and match-ups.

[Betty Blue]

Not had time to comment until now and looks like it's all over, but I went for Surfer by a whisker. Honestly I just really love his back 3. It's nice to see one with a proper sweeper in the middle rather than a stopper thrown in there. And with the two fullbacks, think his system is very well balanced. Definitely see the argument that Red could win the midfield with Emerson and Gattuso in there, but having two DMs feels a bit like overkill. Baggio is a genius, but Immobile I have similar problem to Higuain. Goes a bit missing when it matters and played in the weakest era of Serie A. It would be a tight game, but Savicevic + Real Ronaldo + a water tight defence seal it for Surfer. Not sure Cristiano does anything off the left honestly. By this point in his career he was just a goal hanger. So it's a win here in spite of him not because of. I'm sure he'd love that 

[Betty Blue]

Also, I would hope this is what people are mostly doing! Because the point of these matches is always to decide who would win on the pitch, not to just pick your fave 11 -

Anyway, thats my tuppence. Usually I don't add to much to any debate during voting because everyone knows their stuff here and my opinion will do little to change things, but its good to look at it a bit more tactically rather than just vote for the team with the best players man for man which I find my self doing quite a bit 

Thanks to Nicholls for keeping the draft running after I had to bow out and doing all the vote threads 

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Thx for a great draft all, it's a knowledgeable crowd so it's easier to manouevre since the assumed knowledge is there. (In most cases!)
Appreciate the work betty, nicholls. Shame about robbie leaving earlier, hopefully he's worked the mood out of his system by now. 

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Where do the champions sit Samie?

Joking, joking..

[A scaleXtric DraeX Xmas]

Well played Surfer.

Thanks Betty and Nicholls.

[Samie]

Where do the champions sit Samie?

Joking, joking..

Welcome to the RAWK Draft Hall of Fame mate.  You are now part of a society forged in the fires of shithousery...we meet evrey month.

[A weatherfield winter wonderland]

Congrats Surfer!

Was it really you who fucked me over in the last draft? Welcome to being a marked man.

[red1977]

Well played Surfer and cheers Betty and Nicholls

[child-in-time]

Well done, surfer, a well deserved win, I think yours was one of the best teams in general.

[Hazell]

Well done surfer. Thanks for sorting the matches Nicholls.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Cheers all.