Author Topic: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19 (Read 240385 times)

Iska · « **Reply #880 on:** December 30, 2018, 01:58:22 pm »

Quote from: Titi Camara on December 30, 2018, 01:14:42 pm

How long for the funny graph?

Here you go.

Prof · « **Reply #881 on:** December 30, 2018, 04:26:12 pm »

Quote from: Titi Camara on December 30, 2018, 01:14:42 pm

How long for the funny graph?

After that lot have played... About two hours

Prof · « **Reply #882 on:** December 30, 2018, 06:43:44 pm »

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #883 on:** December 30, 2018, 06:49:24 pm »

City on Thursday is a Par 1 for us, right?

Also, great to see that the Rev-Ole-tion still has them only playing to Par

Prof · « **Reply #884 on:** December 30, 2018, 06:55:28 pm »

Quote from: PhaseOfPlay on December 30, 2018, 06:49:24 pm

City on Thursday is a Par 1 for us, right?

Par 1 for us, par 3 for them.

Likely we'll be back to plus 7 after that. They'll want to put the Christmas period behind them.

SpionBob · « **Reply #885 on:** December 31, 2018, 01:42:28 am »

Quote from: Prof on December 30, 2018, 06:55:28 pm

Par 1 for us, par 3 for them.

Likely we'll be back to plus 7 after that. They'll want to put the Christmas period behind them.

Agreed. I can't see any way City will want to not beat us and with their expensively assembled squad they will rip our dodgy defence apart, whilst our powder puff attack will stall on encountering the likes of Stones and Laporte. It's been a good Christmas though despite that.

RooiBefok · « **Reply #886 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:01:22 am »

APLT Full Table : Matchweek 20

RooiBefok · « **Reply #887 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:01:55 am »

APLT Analysis & Extrapolations : Matchweek 20

RooiBefok · « **Reply #888 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:02:26 am »

APLT Revolving Par : Matchweek 20

RooiBefok · « **Reply #889 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:03:08 am »

LFC Current & Projected Form : Matchweek 20

thaddeus · « **Reply #890 on:** December 31, 2018, 01:55:21 pm »

A thing of beauty!

Am I right in thinking Man City's remaining par 1 games are:
- Newcastle
- Everton
- Bournemouth
- Man Utd
- Palace
- Burnley

Even allowing for their stumble over Christmas it looks like only United being a test for them in those fixtures. +10 over those games look highly likely.

They probably have tougher par 3 games in us, Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal (if they get their defence settled in the next month!).

dudleyred · « **Reply #891 on:** December 31, 2018, 02:57:25 pm »

Quote from: thaddeus on December 31, 2018, 01:55:21 pm

A thing of beauty!

Am I right in thinking Man City's remaining par 1 games are:
- Newcastle
- Everton
- Bournemouth
- Man Utd
- Palace
- Burnley

Even allowing for their stumble over Christmas it looks like only United being a test for them in those fixtures. +10 over those games look highly likely.

They probably have tougher par 3 games in us, Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal (if they get their defence settled in the next month!).

I could make a case to set city could lose any of those.

Football is so unpredictable it’s not worth worrying about them. We do our job and it doesn’t matter if they win every match from here (they won’t)

thaddeus · « **Reply #892 on:** December 31, 2018, 03:35:50 pm »

Quote from: dudleyred on December 31, 2018, 02:57:25 pm

I could make a case to set city could lose any of those.

Football is so unpredictable it’s not worth worrying about them. We do our job and it doesn’t matter if they win every match from here (they won’t)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not worried by them. I just find it quirky that they're nine points worse off than this time last season and they were five points worse off even before they lost three in five.

I'm guessing it's because of how their par 1s have fallen across the season. The majority of their remaining par 1s are against non top six sides. Unpredictability granted but on the law of averages they'd win the majority of those and claw back some APLT points.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #893 on:** December 31, 2018, 04:34:04 pm »

Quote from: thaddeus on December 31, 2018, 03:35:50 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm not worried by them. I just find it quirky that they're nine points worse off than this time last season and they were five points worse off even before they lost three in five.

I'm guessing it's because of how their par 1s have fallen across the season. The majority of their remaining par 1s are against non top six sides. Unpredictability granted but on the law of averages they'd win the majority of those and claw back some APLT points.

Would they? So far this season they are playing to almost perfect APLT form. That suggests that there is a good chance they will continue to follow the model, which would mean that they should expect to draw the Par ones more often than win them.

drmick · « **Reply #894 on:** December 31, 2018, 09:39:32 pm »

I'm with Thaddeus on this one- City will likely get +10 APLT points from those six Par 1s.

Redwhiteandnotblue · « **Reply #895 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:29:53 pm »

Quote from: drmick on December 31, 2018, 09:39:32 pm

I'm with Thaddeus on this one- City will likely get +10 APLT points from those six Par 1s.

How many do you think they will they lose, 3 at a time, against the likes of Crystal Palace?

drmick · « **Reply #896 on:** January 1, 2019, 01:14:55 am »

Quote from: Redwhiteandnotblue on December 31, 2018, 10:29:53 pm

How many do you think they will they lose, 3 at a time, against the likes of Crystal Palace?

None.

Hij · « **Reply #897 on:** January 1, 2019, 05:20:23 am »

COME ON!!!!!

We have a chance to win the league here. I'm beyond caring as it goes. LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL xxxx

McrRed · « **Reply #898 on:** January 1, 2019, 08:41:03 am »

Quote from: Hij on January 1, 2019, 05:20:23 am

COME ON!!!!!

We have a chance to win the league here. I'm beyond caring as it goes. LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL xxxx

Forgive him for he knows not what he does. Obviously fuelled by new year festive spirit he has forgotten the first, second and third laws applicable here.
City are too strong and will claw back too many points from their easy run in. There is nothing we can do about it. A shame really.

Rush 82 · « **Reply #899 on:** January 1, 2019, 08:57:12 am »

Quote from: McrRed on January 1, 2019, 08:41:03 am

Forgive him for he knows not what he does. Obviously fuelled by new year festive spirit he has forgotten the first, second and third laws applicable here.
City are too strong and will claw back too many points from their easy run in. There is nothing we can do about it. A shame really.

Good calm head there

Keep on truckin'

Prof · « **Reply #900 on:** January 1, 2019, 10:12:05 am »

Quote from: McrRed on January 1, 2019, 08:41:03 am

Forgive him for he knows not what he does. Obviously fuelled by new year festive spirit he has forgotten the first, second and third laws applicable here.
City are too strong and will claw back too many points from their easy run in. There is nothing we can do about it. A shame really.

Ah... the calm sense of reason

royhendo · « **Reply #901 on:** January 2, 2019, 09:33:33 am »

Prof et al - this thread, along with JP’s thread, is phenomenal.

Can I ask a beginner’s daft question? Is a par 1 “expect a draw” and a par 3 “expect a win”? I’ve assumed that throughout...

TepidT2O · « **Reply #902 on:** January 2, 2019, 09:52:27 am »

Yep..

You are expected to win all your home games and all away games against the bottom half (from the previous season).

You are only expected to draw away games against the top half from last season.

So for us, the city game is a par 1. We gain two points if we win and lose one if we lose. For city it’s a par three. They gain no points if they win and drop two if they draw and three if they lose.

This has taken me years to work out

Qston · « **Reply #903 on:** January 2, 2019, 10:05:13 am »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on January 2, 2019, 09:52:27 am

Yep..

You are expected to win all your home games and all away games against the bottom half (from the previous season).

You are only expected to draw away games against the top half from last season.

So for us, the city game is a par 1. We gain two points if we win and lose one if we lose. For city it’s a par three. They gain no points if they win and drop two if they draw and three if they lose.

This has taken me years to work out

And now it has taken me only reading your post to finally work out what the hell has been going on ! although i had always assumed that if your line was above 90 that was good !

TepidT2O · « **Reply #904 on:** January 2, 2019, 10:29:52 am »

Quote from: Qston on January 2, 2019, 10:05:13 am

And now it has taken me only reading your post to finally work out what the hell has been going on ! although i had always assumed that if your line was above 90 that was good !

Well it is!

Red Beret · « **Reply #905 on:** January 2, 2019, 11:04:00 am »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on January 2, 2019, 09:52:27 am

Yep..

You are expected to win all your home games and all away games against the bottom half (from the previous season).

You are only expected to draw away games against the top half from last season.

So for us, the city game is a par 1. We gain two points if we win and lose one if we lose. For city it’s a par three. They gain no points if they win and drop two if they draw and three if they lose.

This has taken me years to work out

I've only ever vaguely understood it myself

but thanks to this I do understand that a win for us means a five point swing in our favour.

Even more nervous now!!!

Sangria · « **Reply #906 on:** January 2, 2019, 11:34:44 am »

Quote from: Qston on January 2, 2019, 10:05:13 am

And now it has taken me only reading your post to finally work out what the hell has been going on ! although i had always assumed that if your line was above 90 that was good !

The assumption is that 90 points will win the title. To get there, you win all your home games (19 x par 3 = 57 points), win your 7 easiest away games against the 3 promoted teams and the teams that finished 14th-17th (7 x par 3 = 21 points) and draw the other 12 aways (12 x par 1 = 12 points), totalling (57 + 21 + 12 = 90 points).

Currently, we've dropped 2 points from a par 3 against Man City at home, but we've been par or above on the others. Against the top 6, draws against Chelsea and Arsenal away were par, while the win against Tottenham was 2 above par.

I still don't quite get the tables posted by RooiBefok though.

Yiannis · « **Reply #907 on:** January 2, 2019, 12:47:36 pm »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on January 2, 2019, 09:52:27 am

Yep..

You are expected to win all your home games and all away games against the bottom half (from the previous season).

You are only expected to draw away games against the top half from last season.

So for us, the city game is a par 1. We gain two points if we win and lose one if we lose. For city it’s a par three. They gain no points if they win and drop two if they draw and three if they lose.

This has taken me years to work out

Haha, it took me some weeks too. First time I visited the relevant thread was this season after watching it season by season getting bumped and not click on it

My first reaction was "hang on, how on earth you ask any title aspiring team not to lose a single game? "

Then you read a bit more and understand how for example wins on par1 games balance that out.

Suareznumber7 · « **Reply #908 on:** January 2, 2019, 12:48:24 pm »

Tomorrow starts our slow decent back to the pack and City's rise to another title. It's been a fun run lads but time to get back to reality.

RooiBefok · « **Reply #909 on:** January 2, 2019, 02:12:03 pm »

Quote from: Sangria on January 2, 2019, 11:34:44 am

I still don't quite get the tables posted by RooiBefok though.

APLT Full Table and APLT Analysis Logic

RooiBefok · « **Reply #910 on:** January 2, 2019, 02:12:45 pm »

APLT Extrapolations Logic

RooiBefok · « **Reply #911 on:** January 2, 2019, 02:13:19 pm »

APLT Revolving Par Logic

RooiBefok · « **Reply #912 on:** January 2, 2019, 02:14:01 pm »

LFC Current & Projected Form Logic

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #913 on:** January 2, 2019, 06:08:36 pm »

Quote from: Suareznumber7 on January 2, 2019, 12:48:24 pm

Tomorrow starts our slow decent back to the pack and City's rise to another title. It's been a fun run lads but time to get back to reality.

It was highly enjoyable. Next year will be our year though.

Perham · « **Reply #914 on:** January 2, 2019, 08:16:25 pm »

Still can't look past city for the title this year we will most likely bottle it and hand it straight to them. We're just lucky that we're past 40 points so should be safe from relegation

Prof · « **Reply #915 on:** January 3, 2019, 01:36:42 am »

Quote from: royhendo on January 2, 2019, 09:33:33 am

Prof et al - this thread, along with JP’s thread, is phenomenal.

Can I ask a beginner’s daft question? Is a par 1 “expect a draw” and a par 3 “expect a win”? I’ve assumed that throughout...

Thanks Roy

Great to see you back around here too.

AirConGipsyRed · « **Reply #916 on:** January 3, 2019, 01:52:44 am »

Quote from: royhendo on January 2, 2019, 09:33:33 am

Prof et al - this thread, along with JP’s thread, is phenomenal.

Can I ask a beginner’s daft question? Is a par 1 “expect a draw” and a par 3 “expect a win”? I’ve assumed that throughout...

Wht is JP's thread?

BassTunedToRed · « **Reply #917 on:** January 3, 2019, 08:45:16 am »

Quote from: AirConGipsyRed on January 3, 2019, 01:52:44 am

Wht is JP's thread?

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=340617.0

Compares results with the previous season.

Prof · « **Reply #918 on:** January 3, 2019, 10:00:57 pm »

royhendo · « **Reply #919 on:** January 3, 2019, 10:33:17 pm »

Thanks for all the replies guys. I spent a while doing a “difficulty analysis” on twitter but this echoed the output of that.

I think we’ll win the league. If we don’t it will be because another side levels up to an unprecedented level I think.