Topic: How a redeveloped Anfield would look:

[its cold in the stands]

Pretty sure it was 55k, this was the figure the club said Anfield could be expanded to.

However a lot of things have changed over the past few years, we have all that space behind the Anfield Rd now, and their are just a couple of occupied houses left in Lake St (behind the Main St)

The club should at least now look into the possibility of redeveloping Anfield to 60/65k, the main stumbling block as far as the club is concerned has always been the vast loss of revenue while rebuilding work went on.

Maybe there's some truth in that, and maybe that's why the club continue to refuse to reconsider staying at Anfield rather than moving to Stanley Park.

that says everything mate, the club are more arsed about making money in the short term than upholding the long term traditions of the club.
the likes of celtic, man united and newcastle all managed to re-develop their stadiums without moving so i`m sure we could do the same.
if it came to it, and the beancounters were adamant that the club couldnt afford the loss of revenue, then personally i`d rather go and watch us play at goodison for a season (or even 2) whilst anfield was re-developed than move onto stanley park permanently.
once this club moves away from anfield it wont be the same club.

[davenorthwales]

how many times has st james park been developed since 1987? it looks like they cannot go any further, as the stand in the forefront of the picture cannot be increased because of the houses in front.  newcastle doesn't look right with stands lower than the others...

manutd is the same with one of their stands with a railway track inbetween the houses and the stand


with celtic, this is how it used to look like.  there wasn't much immediate residential buildings more of an open space

[davenorthwales]

[alfonso]

Is there a more recent aerial shot of anfield?

[mikeb58]

This is the most recent one I could find.

This picture shows the new space behind the Anfield Rd and those houses behind the Main St are all but unoccupied.

[davenorthwales]

[alex.]

Some aerial shots here

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/sports/gallery2/v/football-stadia/liverpool/

[Kopout]

Some great pictures.

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/sports/gallery2/v/football-stadia/liverpool/liverpoolanfieldnight-cb50762a.jpg.html

Stunning.

[AnfieldIron]

Some interesting ideas floating about here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=330977&page=108

[LiamG]

Some interesting ideas floating about here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=330977&page=108

Ive posted them before in another thread a while ago, While it does look good just dont think it could be done

[alfonso]

Just took a look at google maps street view and there are 4 houses still occupied on Lothair Road behind the main Stand (2007). Across the road there are about 6 houses occupied.
Does anyone know if the boarded up houses are owned by the club?

Or maybe there are more derelict houses there.

[Manningham Red]

I dont know who owns what. But I hope this is a possibility. I think it would be alot better to redevelop.

[torres09]

I dont know who owns what. But I hope this is a possibility. I think it would be alot better to redevelop.

Definitely

[smig]

I am praying we stay at Anfield. The idea of moving has just never seemed right to me. Maybe I need to get with the times but we'd miss the place too much.

[Jokerman]

Just took a look at google maps street view and there are 4 houses still occupied on Lothair Road behind the main Stand (2007). Across the road there are about 6 houses occupied.
Does anyone know if the boarded up houses are owned by the club?

Or maybe there are more derelict houses there.

A lot of the houses in that area are being redeveloped at present, all along Rockfield Road and Anfield Road and the streets in between, with the exception of Lothair Road. I believe some of the houses at least are owned by the club, not sure about the rest though. It's interesting too, if you look at the other side of Walton Breck Road, the area between Granton Road and Herschell Street through to Hartnup Street, all of these houses are due for demolition. There are presently maybe about a dozen houses occupied between all of these streets. All of the houses in the area from Salisbury Road through to Venice Street are apparently due to be demolished,  and if you look at the size of that whole area, you'll see it dwarfs the area that the stadium presently occupies.

[kavah]

I am praying we stay at Anfield. The idea of moving has just never seemed right to me. Maybe I need to get with the times but we'd miss the place too much.

holy shit this could be the best news we've ever had, would be unbelievably boss if Anfield got done up/extended.

[LiverpoolKopKings]

I am praying we stay at Anfield. The idea of moving has just never seemed right to me. Maybe I need to get with the times but we'd miss the place too much.

You are not alone there. It definately doesn't sound/feel ok.

Do we really think that we can fill a 70K+ every week.

Not saying that we haven't got fans, alas I reckon that few have got more then us, if at all. But I think that maybe the majority of our type of fans are normal working people that maybe do not afford to go to all the matches. Or am I wrong?

[alex.]

We only need about 60K max in my opinion, square off the back of the Kop (add some safe standing rows at the back), re-do the annie road, and extend the centenary and main stand a bit (adding some more corporate boxes and the like) and bob's your uncle.

[Lee J]

The main stand needs demolishing IMO.  If the Anny Rd were redeveloped first (season 1) increasing capacity significantly, then closing the main for the second season would be mitigated by the additional Anny Rd seats. Then we would have two first-rate stands after 2 seasons with capacity > current and probably up to the 60k many people advocate.  Ok, the Kop would still be a cramped place (especially if you're a fat bastard like me) but a redesign incorporating an area for safe standing (as they have at Leverkusen's stadium, for example) could allow slightly better seating without losing too much of the Kop capacity?  The Kop should be full of young mad bastards anyway and not old foggies like me, sod the seat comfort 

That said, I like the new stadium design, I was 80:20 in favour of the move but now 50:50 split if it can be done without too much ago for the regular fans although I seem to remember that a redesign may cost more (given capacity losses etc) and take longer (given the piece-meal approach necessary) unless we share Goodison for a couple of seasons while it's done   

I don't know exactly why I'm changing my mind, perhaps the incessant attack on the Liverpool FC way by the current owners* makes me nostalgic enough to realise the effect it may have on our identity should we leave the current ground.  Who knows.



* previous owners if the sale has gone through when you read this 

[west_london_red]

We only need about 60K max in my opinion, square off the back of the Kop (add some safe standing rows at the back), re-do the annie road, and extend the centenary and main stand a bit (adding some more corporate boxes and the like) and bob's your uncle.

I think the problem is when you go 'up' by making larger stands, you usually need to also go backwards (away from the pitch) and I think the issue has always been about that space available to go backwards. But on the other hand, I've read here a few times that the club owns most of the houses that surround Anfield so maybe thats not the reason.

[west_london_red]

Do we really think that we can fill a 70K+ every week.

Not saying that we haven't got fans, alas I reckon that few have got more then us, if at all. But I think that maybe the majority of our type of fans are normal working people that maybe do not afford to go to all the matches. Or am I wrong?

If the teams doing well I think we should be able to fill a 70k stadium for a reasonable number of games. If the team carries on like it is currently, I doubt we'll be able to fill the current Anfield for much longer.

[Regi]

Some interesting ideas floating about here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=330977&page=108

That design by G.C looks really good IMO.
Third tier on the Centenary, 3 tier new Main Stand...
The noise in a stadium with those high stands and tight pitch area would be pretty awesome.
Would also leave scope for a new tier on the Anny of ever needed

[woz92]

^

[Chivasino]

Would love something like that, good work Woz.

It would be intimidating and the acoustics would be stunning. Assuming we have a half decent team to be scared of, and are still singing.

[Captain Wolf Biscuit]

Looks good but Annie Road end looks weird being so small compared to the others, no way it could be expanded could it?

[Samee]

Would really prefer Anfield being redeveloped than having to leave for a bigger new stadium.

[Acaustiq]

Looks good but Annie Road end looks weird being so small compared to the others, no way it could be expanded could it?

Yeah it could be, particularly if it were built over the road, Atletico style.

[Joe Rogans Chin]

We just need to think outside the box and awayt from traditional building methods for constricting a stadium. If they can build the channel tunnel and make bridges that can take earthquakes in Japan, then the must be some way of building a shell of a stand behind the Main stand during the season and then spending the off season demoltiong the Main stand and replacing it with the shell behind it. The roof could then be added during the season, along with the fit out of the stands, changies, and corporate stuff etc.

Anny road is different and we could maybe put up with that being pulled down and rebuilt completley during the season when the main stand is finished.

My main understanding of why a new stadium was always the best option was becuase of the No of executive boxes that Anfield could not provide, but coporate stuff has moved away from boxes to meals and seperate entertaining areas inside stands and just a match ticket with a comfy seat.

[Alan_X]

Hi lads - I hope to put up a new thread over the weekend looking at this. What would be really useful would be any photos showing long views of Anfield from across Stanley Park, coming up Walton Breck Road etc, and the surrounding streets. I'm doing a massing model and would like to show the impact of the increased heights of the stands. If anyone has any or could take a few snaps and upload them it would be appreciated. They don't need to be hi-res, just post them on here in the thread.

Many thanks

[LiamG]

Like this Alan??
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/27219612
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/34293555

Found on google streetview

[Alan_X]

Like this Alan??
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/27219612
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/34293555

Found on google streetview

Yes that's the kind of thing. I had a look at those but might need a few more though.

[LiamG]

There are a few more on streetview i think

[LiamG]

Here's a better picture of the old plan for anfield

[Samee]

The council are discouraging NESV from redeveloping Anfield. Sorry for my ignorance, but why?

[TMOI]

The council are discouraging NESV from redeveloping Anfield. Sorry for my ignorance, but why?

because they don't want to lose employment and the regeneration of the area (there's another thread talking about it)

[incredibleL4ever]

I am praying we stay at Anfield. The idea of moving has just never seemed right to me. Maybe I need to get with the times but we'd miss the place too much.

The problem with staying is that you are limited to working within the confines of the streets and houses around Anfield.  If it is redeveloped Anfield will be different anyway and the current look and feel will be lost.  It is much easier to build a few hundred yards away in Stanley Park and you will end up with a better result.

[Alan_X]

Here's a better picture of the old plan for anfield

That's a 55,000-seater keeping the Centenary and Kop. Looks like Anfield Road is shut and the new Anfield Road stand extends quite a way into the park. The new Main Stand is horribly unbalanced. If the Annie Road is say 12,500 then the new Main Stand would have to be 20,000 or more.

[kinkytones]

I reckon we build an exact replica of Anfield on Stanley park, then expand it

[PhilV]

The problem with staying is that you are limited to working within the confines of the streets and houses around Anfield.  If it is redeveloped Anfield will be different anyway and the current look and feel will be lost.  It is much easier to build a few hundred yards away in Stanley Park and you will end up with a better result.

this.

[davenorthwales]

any further news on the liverpool city council blocking anfield redevelopment with the new owners?