Author Topic: Rogue One - 2 Siths, 1 Saber (Read 30057 times)

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #400 on:** January 22, 2017, 07:15:39 pm »

Quote from: John_P on January 22, 2017, 04:38:16 pm

it was changed for the 2004 edition

Worst is the ending of Return of the Jedi were they've added him saying 'Noooooo' when he picks the emperor up and throws him down the shaft.

Found it ironic that Lucas was one of the people against black and white films being colourized but he's had no problems altering the work of two other directors.

Awful.

And you have to feel sorry for Luke at the end now. "Oh look, it's Obi-wan! And Yoda! And...someone else"

Red Beret · « **Reply #401 on:** January 22, 2017, 07:35:57 pm »

For comparison's sake:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/JaBlw1gNWdg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/JaBlw1gNWdg</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ZUOAbT6OATU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ZUOAbT6OATU</a>

Red Beret · « **Reply #402 on:** January 22, 2017, 08:50:59 pm »

This is an interesting take by Ian McDiarmid on how almost everything was redubbed after the fact.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/SBtbwhyBibI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/SBtbwhyBibI</a>

*important to remember that he was only about 38 when RotJ was filmed so he was aiming for a character much older than himself at the time.

cptrios · « **Reply #403 on:** January 25, 2017, 05:39:23 am »

I recommend checking out the "Despecialized" editions. The people behind it put an absolutely insane amount of work into trying to restore the original versions.

They can be found on an official page, but in massive (17gb or so) form. The usual sources have smaller encodes.

Paul JH · « **Reply #404 on:** January 25, 2017, 08:35:17 am »

Quote from: Red Beret on January 22, 2017, 01:38:36 pm

What was wrong with just sticking to "bring my shuttle"?

This is ever so small, but one of the main reasons I hated some of the changes Lucas made. "Bring my shuttle" was said so curtly, you could tell he was fuming after what had just happened. Either angry, sad, just annoyed. Adding the clunky line about alerting his Star Destroyer just again ruined a moment. It was the moment ruining that annoyed me most.

Same goes for the added 'NNOOOOOOOOOO!' as he throws the Emperor. His silent contemplation was the thing that made that whole scene so memorable. He is a mask Vader. And to show the turmoil in him by just focussing on the mask, and his back and forth looks, the music and the direction did the job. There was no need to add a ridiculous 'NNNOOOOO!' at that moment ... it was such a shame that fans (not all, but some!) ended up knowing what made the SW films great more than the man who created them.

I know Simon Pegg hated that addition, and to be fair, I was an apologist for the special editions, but after that was added to the Bluray, I wanted the originals more than ever.

Red Beret · « **Reply #405 on:** January 25, 2017, 12:23:14 pm »

Always good for a giggle.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/JkPKZhXth7M" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/JkPKZhXth7M</a>

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #406 on:** January 25, 2017, 12:29:23 pm »

Rogue One was absolutely brilliant.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #407 on:** January 25, 2017, 03:16:31 pm »

http://io9.gizmodo.com/youve-been-wrong-about-where-the-death-star-trench-was-1791582520

Well, that's me corrected.

oojason · « **Reply #408 on:** January 25, 2017, 03:41:21 pm »

Quote from: cptrios on January 25, 2017, 05:39:23 am

I recommend checking out the "Despecialized" editions. The people behind it put an absolutely insane amount of work into trying to restore the original versions.

They can be found on an official page, but in massive (17gb or so) form. The usual sources have smaller encodes.

Fantastic aren't they?

There are now 23gb versions (to fit on a blu-ray) as well as a 50gb version (46gb-ish) - which includes a whole host of bonus materials for each film in the Trilogy - including interactive menus and artwork etc. Smaller versions are still out there - in various formats like mkv, iso, mp4, dvd etc...

The custom version (with menus and bonus material etc) - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Editions-Custom-Bluray-Set/id/49995/page/1

The original 'just' the film version - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V25-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/id/12713/page/1

Some of the artwork, boxsets, disc covers, inserts, and disc art etc are superb; either unique - or based on previous formats that have been released down the years - with lots of choices too

Watching the Star Wars films in great picture and sound quality - just as they came out in the cinemas (with none of the changes made since then by George) - all those years ago....

Something Worse · « **Reply #409 on:** January 25, 2017, 04:38:06 pm »

Quote from: my last name. on January 25, 2017, 03:16:31 pm

http://io9.gizmodo.com/youve-been-wrong-about-where-the-death-star-trench-was-1791582520

Well, that's me corrected.

That's weird, I always thought it was north-south specifically because of the briefing.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #410 on:** January 30, 2017, 09:29:19 pm »

Filming on Han Solo film has started ...

TepidT2O · « **Reply #411 on:** January 30, 2017, 09:30:46 pm »

oojason · « **Reply #412 on:** January 30, 2017, 11:29:53 pm »

found at https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/5r325u/fetch/

Red Beret · « **Reply #413 on:** February 2, 2017, 05:23:14 pm »

Quote from: clever.. on January 30, 2017, 09:30:46 pm

Two Sith, One Cup?

Something Worse · « **Reply #414 on:** February 2, 2017, 05:28:03 pm »

Quote from: Red Beret on February 2, 2017, 05:23:14 pm

Two Sith, One Cup?

"To sixth, one cup!" is actually the name of the Manchester United season review DVD

Red Beret · « **Reply #415 on:** February 16, 2017, 08:58:45 am »

Something Worse · « **Reply #416 on:** February 16, 2017, 09:06:06 am »

Quote from: Red Beret on February 16, 2017, 08:58:45 am

Is that a natural cloud formation!?

Red Beret · « **Reply #417 on:** February 16, 2017, 09:18:55 am »

quality is too poor for me to tell if it's photoshop or not but I'm guessing natural. Anybody who's been on a plane can say there's some weird ass clouds around up there.

oojason · « **Reply #418 on:** February 16, 2017, 04:46:30 pm »

^ quality pic RedBeret

a photoshop pic from the some new box art packaging for The Last Jedi:-

(taken from here - with actual box art pic - https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/5uf45n/first_look_at_the_last_jedi_product_packaging/)

Something Worse · « **Reply #419 on:** February 17, 2017, 12:03:46 am »

Can they hurry up and do another giant Lego Millennium Falcon already? I've finally got someone I can "buy it for".

TepidT2O · « **Reply #420 on:** February 17, 2017, 08:28:17 am »

Quote from: Claus on February 17, 2017, 12:03:46 am

Can they hurry up and do another giant Lego Millennium Falcon already? I've finally got someone I can "buy it for".

minimum 8 hours build time... and that's not even for the really big one...

Don't do it!!!

Beav · « **Reply #421 on:** February 17, 2017, 08:32:58 am »

Quote from: Claus on February 17, 2017, 12:03:46 am

Can they hurry up and do another giant Lego Millennium Falcon already? I've finally got someone I can "buy it for".

There's been strong rumours in the Lego community that there will be a new UCS Falcon either late this year, or next year.

This May they're releasing a big Snowspeeder set.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #422 on:** February 17, 2017, 02:45:44 pm »

The last Jedi?

Now they have released the name of the film in other languages, it's now confirmed as being a plural...

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #423 on:** February 17, 2017, 02:59:58 pm »

I know about the German one, what are the others?

Something Worse · « **Reply #424 on:** February 17, 2017, 03:36:36 pm »

Quote from: Beav on February 17, 2017, 08:32:58 am

There's been strong rumours in the Lego community that there will be a new UCS Falcon either late this year, or next year.

This May they're releasing a big Snowspeeder set.

I'd just googled it before posting and saw nothing, where did you read about these?

TepidT2O · « **Reply #425 on:** February 17, 2017, 03:38:02 pm »

Quote from: my last name. on February 17, 2017, 02:59:58 pm

I know about the German one, what are the others?

Spanish and French too it seems!

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #426 on:** February 17, 2017, 03:44:25 pm »

Quote from: COCK WOMBLES on February 17, 2017, 03:38:02 pm

Spanish and French too it seems!

Nice one!

Red Beret · « **Reply #427 on:** February 22, 2017, 09:06:19 am »

Quote from: COCK WOMBLES on February 17, 2017, 02:45:44 pm

The last Jedi?

Now they have released the name of the film in other languages, it's now confirmed as being a plural...

"Always two, there are. A Master, and an Apprentice."

oojason · « **Reply #428 on:** February 22, 2017, 11:12:43 pm »

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story In-Home Trailer:-

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZwPgQucl4QA?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/ZwPgQucl4QA?fs=1</a>

In the UK it is out on Monday 10th April (DVD, 3D Blu-ray, and Digital Download) - https://twitter.com/StarWarsUK/status/834500817306660865

artwork for various covers is in the link above...

Seems there are no deleted scenes or commentary.

In the USA, Rogue One is out in Digital HD on Friday 24th March.

It's out in the USA on Blu-ray 3D, Blu-ray, DVD, and On-Demand on Tuesday 4th April.

Adopts K2SO voice: there is high probability that people in the UK will get their hands on the digital download soon after the US on the 24th March - a high probability...

Red Beret · « **Reply #429 on:** February 26, 2017, 11:14:21 pm »

Anybody else noticed how Star Wars seems to work best when it's classic ships slugging it out?

oojason · « **Reply #430 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:41:54 am »

Rogue One is away - bluray versions have leaked in the usual places...

Full 1080 - from 19.49gb down to 700mb versions, erm... apparently.

Red Beret · « **Reply #431 on:** March 20, 2017, 12:58:55 pm »

Quote from: oojason on March 18, 2017, 12:41:54 am

Rogue One is away - bluray versions have leaked in the usual places...

Full 1080 - from 19.49gb down to 700mb versions, erm... apparently.

Wonderful. I'll be happy with around 2.5gb. Not like I have a 70 inch curved 3D telly (which might have spied on me anyway.)

oojason · « **Reply #432 on:** March 21, 2017, 12:10:11 am »

Quote from: Red Beret on March 20, 2017, 12:58:55 pm

Wonderful. I'll be happy with around 2.5gb. Not like I have a 70 inch curved 3D telly (which might have spied on me anyway.)

I keep to files around that size too - normally to fit on a 4gb usb drive. I'm not sure why anymore - as I often stream from the pc hard drive, and the usb drives are now a lot cheaper and can pick up a good sandisk 32gb usb for around £12-13... yet I still go looking for files around 2gb to 3.4gb - force of habit!

Anyway, great looking film - and Takrin / Leia cgi seemed more authentic looking on it than at the cinema (or the leaked cam rips) - especially in the darker lit scenes...

Good comparison video of Tarkin in Rogue One and Star Wars here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsuvXHGCVXE

Guy Henry did a top job.

Red Beret · « **Reply #433 on:** March 21, 2017, 09:16:11 pm »

I loved seeing Tarkin in the movie - his are my (non Vader) favourite scenes to be honest. Thought his lip work was far better in the later scenes, although I also felt his eyebrow work wasn't quite as expressive as it could have been. It seemed just a little bit off from the rest of his expression, which overall seemed slightly subdued or restrained. Still a top notch job though. And yes, Leia looks a lot better in this dvd cut. Maybe they tweaked her slightly?

In Force Awakens, where the Falcon was up against the Tie Fighters, I felt we finally had a moment that stood up when compared to the OT. But I honestly feel that Rogue One is the first modern Star Wars movie to give us numerous iconic moments that not only match the OT, but exceed it.

blert596 · « **Reply #434 on:** March 21, 2017, 10:00:39 pm »

I watched it in bed last night and preferred it to watching it at the pictures.

I was a bit pissed off at first as the score is so much louder than the dialogue when it kicks in - which is great as I love the score. But at 1am my neighbours wouldnt have been pleased so ended up turning the volume up and down which was more than annoying.

I then remembered/realised that my Samsung telly has built in bluetooth support. 2 mins later with my Jabra Pulse earphones paired up and life was great. Booming sound and the 1080p stream was boss too.

I think the Vader bit at the end when he stands there unmoving with his sabre is one of the most daunting bits of film I've seen. It just exudes menace before he even kicks off. Up there with the Jaws music and the Alien/Weaver face off for me.

Red Beret · « **Reply #435 on:** March 22, 2017, 08:16:44 am »

I heard the Vader scene at the end described as "going ful on horror movie, but with Darth Vader." I'd say that was pretty accurate!

This film gives us so many new things about the universe we know that we haven't seen before. Vader going full terminator is one of them.

Rattleduser · « **Reply #436 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:44:57 pm »

Quote from: cptrios on January 25, 2017, 05:39:23 am

I recommend checking out the "Despecialized" editions. The people behind it put an absolutely insane amount of work into trying to restore the original versions.

They can be found on an official page, but in massive (17gb or so) form. The usual sources have smaller encodes.

STAR WARS 1977 SILVERSCREEN EDITION is the version everyone should download

oojason · « **Reply #437 on:** March 22, 2017, 04:22:18 pm »

Quote from: Rattleduser on March 22, 2017, 01:44:57 pm

STAR WARS 1977 SILVERSCREEN EDITION is the version everyone should download

Think they are now on v1.6 of that - the Grindhouse versions for ESB and ROTJ are worth a look too

Hopefully, in time (and a lot of work), we'll see some 4K preservations/restorations of the Original Trilogy...

oojason · « **Reply #438 on:** March 22, 2017, 04:51:08 pm »

Quote from: Red Beret on March 21, 2017, 09:16:11 pm

I loved seeing Tarkin in the movie - his are my (non Vader) favourite scenes to be honest. Thought his lip work was far better in the later scenes, although I also felt his eyebrow work wasn't quite as expressive as it could have been. It seemed just a little bit off from the rest of his expression, which overall seemed slightly subdued or restrained. Still a top notch job though. And yes, Leia looks a lot better in this dvd cut. Maybe they tweaked her slightly?

In Force Awakens, where the Falcon was up against the Tie Fighters, I felt we finally had a moment that stood up when compared to the OT. But I honestly feel that Rogue One is the first modern Star Wars movie to give us numerous iconic moments that not only match the OT, but exceed it.

Amen brother

There are a few good videos spliced together from the promos, trailers and adverts into one (and done before the recent blu ray leak) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mPzBKG8wyE - not only highlighting the superb effects, but there is emotional connection there to what the Rebels are fighting for, beit their characters, backstory, cause or current plot of the film - even in the spaceship battles (which could have easily gone into Prequel and 'density' territory), and like you say some scenes surpass even the OT.

I'm looking forward to some of the coming fan edits for Rogue One - though seemingly it'll be mainly new title sequences, crawls, maybe some re-scoring here and there, and maybe a few shots lifted from the trailers etc - though doubt we'll be seeing much change at all for the actual film itself - it just doesn't require it.

(though would be cool to see those deleted/alternative/pre-reshot scenes in a future release someday soon)

Something Worse · « **Reply #439 on:** March 24, 2017, 03:20:16 pm »

The Han Solo movie is going to reveal his real name. Whatever that means.