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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #120 on: July 23, 2023, 04:26:21 pm »
Easy, Virgil and Trent vice captain.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #121 on: July 24, 2023, 02:21:00 am »
My initial reaction was Trent, but on further reflection I don't mind letting him have a year or two to concentrate on his own game as he morphs into a midefendielder or whatever. So VVD for 2 years is a decent shout.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #122 on: July 24, 2023, 03:12:23 am »
Think everyone has selective memory when it comes to Van Dijk and captaincy, he's always been a bit meek.

Robbo or Mo for me.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #123 on: July 24, 2023, 03:35:22 am »
My initial reaction was Trent, but on further reflection I don't mind letting him have a year or two to concentrate on his own game as he morphs into a midefendielder or whatever. So VVD for 2 years is a decent shout.
That's where I stand too. With the loss of Milner and Hendo, experience might be important. Virg now, then Trent / Robbo in no particular order, I don't think Mo would be high on the list; hasn't been before even though he's one of our two best players (Alisson being the other). Plus, refs don't like him and he won't be too useful to the team as a captain.
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #124 on: July 24, 2023, 03:47:30 am »
... I don't think Mo would be high on the list; hasn't been before even though he's one of our two best players (Alisson being the other). Plus, refs don't like him and he won't be too useful to the team as a captain.

A very good point on refs not liking him. We need a captain that can talk to refs, so VvD would be a good shout
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #125 on: July 24, 2023, 04:23:30 am »
I do like the idea of the ref giving one of our players a talking to for a hard foul, and then Virg ambles over and gives him the ol' "who cares?"

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #126 on: July 24, 2023, 07:50:11 am »
I think it's difficult and a good point made about refs not liking players or basically respecting them. I think at surface level Klopp won't mind too much who is captain, he expects everyone to lead, however as it's the captain who is in the refs ear then the choice is an important one. It's easier to rule out players that it is rule them in. Mo gets no respect from refs, his English is okay but he's not that kind of personality to argue something, he's more arms than mouth. Robbo isn't high up on respect either as evidence shows with the the response to his altercation with the linesman, he was painted as the villain by pundits, ex refs etc so despite being vocal and I'd like a Scot to wear the armband I think there's already an agenda round him.

It probably is Virgil as his English is good enough, he's more imposing than other figures. I also believe referee's treat foreigners differently especially if you aren't white so that also limits the options. (Let's be honest that's why Salah never gets a foul)

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #127 on: July 31, 2023, 06:06:09 pm »
Its Virg and Trent is vice.
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #128 on: July 31, 2023, 06:08:00 pm »
Easy, Virgil and Trent vice captain.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #129 on: July 31, 2023, 06:08:38 pm »
Hope Salah is cool with this!

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #130 on: July 31, 2023, 06:11:15 pm »
Hope Salah is cool with this!

Why wouldn't he be? he's part of the leadership committee in the squad but Virg was the vice captain,.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #131 on: July 31, 2023, 06:17:40 pm »
Not been overly impressed with van Dijk as a leader but guess the management sees more in him and how the players react to him. Just feel he is a bit to laid back and easy going the steer the ship when the water is troubled

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #132 on: July 31, 2023, 06:18:05 pm »
Fantastic news about Trent - so well deserved.

He's led by example asserting his talent since being a teenager. Also taken quite extreme levels of responsibility for our team's entire way of playing for multiple years now (and even more so since the end of the season) - great to see him publicly get the recognition he deserves and that we know Klopp has had for him for years

PS this might shut up some of his high profile talent-phobe detractors on TV too - they'll run a compilation and say 'this is what's changed' to justify their dumb wrong original opinions as being in the past now

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #133 on: July 31, 2023, 06:24:00 pm »
VVD captain, trent vice so he can take over in the future.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #134 on: July 31, 2023, 06:27:32 pm »
Why wouldn't he be? he's part of the leadership committee in the squad but Virg was the vice captain,.

I just wonder if he thought he was next in like after VVD given his experience and performances.

I like TAA as the VC but I did think it would be VVD and Salah.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #135 on: July 31, 2023, 06:30:03 pm »
Im sure Klopp explained to Salah that TAA is the correct appointment for the club in the long run. Salah wont be here in 2030 and Trent hopefully will.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #136 on: July 31, 2023, 06:31:54 pm »
Its Virg and Trent is vice.
Happy with that.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #137 on: July 31, 2023, 06:36:19 pm »

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #138 on: July 31, 2023, 06:54:50 pm »
Hope Salah is cool with this!


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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #139 on: July 31, 2023, 06:56:57 pm »

Great pic & right decision. Only Mo was in the equation for it imo.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #140 on: July 31, 2023, 07:03:26 pm »
Would have liked Salah to be vice captain.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #141 on: July 31, 2023, 07:06:42 pm »
Would have liked Salah to be vice captain.

I prefer it this way I think. In reality Virg and Mo will leave/retire at a similar time. Trent is being groomed to be the next captain for the long term which makes sense.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #142 on: July 31, 2023, 07:10:11 pm »
Well in Trent  ;D

Makes perfect sense, a younger vice captain, as Virg won’t likely be that long term a captain.  Rather than have another ‘older’ vice captain that may not be here after a couple years as well.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #144 on: July 31, 2023, 11:51:48 pm »
Virgil Van Dijk seems to have confirmed in an interview that this is the new leadership group at Liverpool:

Virgil Van Dijk (captain)
Trent Alexander-Arnold (vice-captain)
Andy Robertson
Alisson
Mo Salah

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #145 on: August 1, 2023, 04:52:54 am »
As expected.
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #146 on: August 1, 2023, 03:02:21 pm »
I think it's difficult and a good point made about refs not liking players or basically respecting them. I think at surface level Klopp won't mind too much who is captain, he expects everyone to lead, however as it's the captain who is in the refs ear then the choice is an important one. It's easier to rule out players that it is rule them in. Mo gets no respect from refs, his English is okay but he's not that kind of personality to argue something, he's more arms than mouth. Robbo isn't high up on respect either as evidence shows with the the response to his altercation with the linesman, he was painted as the villain by pundits, ex refs etc so despite being vocal and I'd like a Scot to wear the armband I think there's already an agenda round him.

It probably is Virgil as his English is good enough, he's more imposing than other figures. I also believe referee's treat foreigners differently especially if you aren't white so that also limits the options. (Let's be honest that's why Salah never gets a foul)

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #147 on: August 1, 2023, 03:22:11 pm »
“… referee’s treat foreigners differently especially if you aren’t white”.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #148 on: August 1, 2023, 03:33:43 pm »
Virgil Van Dijk seems to have confirmed in an interview that this is the new leadership group at Liverpool:

Virgil Van Dijk (captain)
Trent Alexander-Arnold (vice-captain)
Andy Robertson
Alisson
Mo Salah

Makes sense


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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #149 on: August 1, 2023, 04:17:23 pm »
Mo can't be VC.
If Van dijk isn't playing he'd have to come out first!


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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #150 on: August 1, 2023, 04:31:31 pm »
Mo can't be VC.
If Van dijk isn't playing he'd have to come out first!
I don't understand what this means?

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #151 on: August 1, 2023, 04:33:09 pm »
I don't understand what this means?

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #152 on: August 1, 2023, 04:35:26 pm »
Salah is always last out of the tunnel
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #153 on: August 1, 2023, 04:36:29 pm »
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #154 on: August 1, 2023, 04:48:57 pm »
Imagine Virg and Salah's roles reversed... Salah goes angry to the ref, nearly butts heads and starts harping, while Virg move slightly away with a smirk...
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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #155 on: August 1, 2023, 05:13:31 pm »
Virgil Van Dijk seems to have confirmed in an interview that this is the new leadership group at Liverpool:

Virgil Van Dijk (captain)
Trent Alexander-Arnold (vice-captain)
Andy Robertson
Alisson
Mo Salah

Happy with that, good professional group to keep things in check. Our dressing room is a young one at present so this groups influence will be invaluable.

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Re: VVD Captain - TAA Vice Captain
« Reply #156 on: August 1, 2023, 09:10:24 pm »
Virgil Van Dijk seems to have confirmed in an interview that this is the new leadership group at Liverpool:

Virgil Van Dijk (captain)
Trent Alexander-Arnold (vice-captain)
Andy Robertson
Alisson
Mo Salah
Very happy with that.

Will be interesting over the next year or 2 what Younger players step up and become part of this group.