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General Football and Sport / Re: Everton - The 777 Unflushables
« Last post by 4pool on Today at 11:54:52 am »
No problem with BMD.. :P

Was just on the Liver Building tour. Excellent thing to do if you haven't and don't mind climbing 135 steps up a winding staircase. You stop about halfway for a video in the clock room.

Anyway, I asked one of the tour guides at what point do you not do the tour due to high wind. She said they were good up to 70 mph winds. Lol. She said she did a tour when the wind was 53 mph and it was brutal.  ;D

So piss of piss for BMD stadium.. :lmao
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If the new manager wins they’ll last - if they don’t they won’t
If they win the fans will like them… if they don’t they won’t


Agree

Doesn't really matter what the manager's personality is like as long as you when. Winning is the biggest determinant of whether the fans like a manager or not. How they act outside of that success probably add a bit. Klopp is a good example of that. Shankly and Dalglish in differing ways beforehand. I'm not sure the likes of Paisley, Benitez, Houllier, Evans can be viewed as big personalities. They all got support though. Mainly until the results dried up. The only difference to this was Hodgson. Who got under people's skin by not defending the club and players when it was needed. For trying to dampen expectation. That's different than personality. It was the mark of someone who had never managed at a club like ours with the expectation of success,

Ultimately, I don't mind us having someone who comes across as a nob as manager as long as we win.If any manager comes in and wins the 1st 4 on the bounce, everyone will be behind them straight away. Even if it starts off rocky, we'll give them time as a fanbase as long as they defend the club and don't dampen down expectations to what a mid-table club expects.
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Illustrates the lack of managers.

Exactly, that’s why I always hoped Klopp would at least see out his current contract and hopefully by then another manager may have emerged. But it wasn’t to be so hopefully De Zerbi or whoever can step up!
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Now Thomas fucking Frank??

Are people on a wind up in here or what? FML.

It's genuinely the sort of shit we would say in a man united forum on potential managers.

Illustrates the lack of managers.
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If the Alonso rumours are true, which seems likely since it's coming from both Liverpool and Bayern, then I'm quite firmly in the Thomas Frank camp. He's done incredibly well over several seasons, even this season his team is the most underperforming side compared to their expected points. Also the setup at Brentford seems quite similar to ours, and our players should suit his system quite well compared to a possession minded coach.

The Brentford fans seem to be counting their lucky stars that he seemingly isn't in the running.

Now Thomas fucking Frank??

Are people on a wind up in here or what? FML.

It's genuinely the sort of shit we would say in a man united forum on potential managers.
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I really fancy us Sunday, I think this will be the game where we catch them playing out with the press and punish them.

A lot will probably come down to us getting the 1st goal, I always worry about how many chances we miss before getting that 1st goal unless Jota is playing, hopefully this will be a game where we take one of those early chances.

Looking forward to seeing a midfield 3 of Endo-Mac Allister-Szobszlai being energised by our own crowd, and looking forward to seeing Diaz continue his upturn in form.  I can be a bit of a pessimist but I fancy a dominant 4-1 win
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I still think there is plenty of time for this to be fucked up by either Labour, the media, or both. I think the Labour leadership also feel the same way, thank God. Calm heads needed. Having said that, If I was putting money on it...

Nothing's ever really set in stone until you see helicopter footage of the cars going to the Palace etc, but I'm not too concerned at this point. When it comes to Labour, the Tories are largely out of ammo, you can see how desparate they are that they're trying to make things like Rayner's taxes an issue (something like 3k I think?). Surely that's shaky ground for the average Tory MP!

Could Labour self-implode? Maybe, though all the signs so far to me is that Starmer's team is running a tight operation and will sacrifice small losses (Rochdale) to keep the party's overall image intact. It was hilarious watching Sunak trying to paint a "same old Labour" picture at PMQs using a candidate that had already been given the boot. There are some honest questions about the Labour party but even when in the spotlight their polling support doesn't seem to waver so either the subjects involved don't really resonate with the average voter or people are just that damn sick of the Tories.

And that brings me to the most apposite cause for optimism - Sunak himself being very bad at front line politics and having no real planks of support across his own party or the wider Right-leaning sections of the electorate. Combined with the natural lifecycle of a tiring Government and it will take at this point some sort of political asteroid strike to see anything other than Starmer as PM within a year.
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Media and Arts / Re: Music Association Game
« Last post by Terry de Niro on Today at 11:47:32 am »

 Tonight (I'm Lovin' You)

Enrique Iglesias



Give Me All Your Lovin' - ZZ Top
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I do find the criticism of De Zerbi bizarre.

His side were utterly brilliant to watch last season on the back of spending complete peanuts.  Sometimes a manager can get a one off good finish off a terrible budget but 95% of the time it will be through playing 11 men behind the ball, shit on a stick hoofball. De Zerbi did it through playing the most expansive, play out from the back, high pressing football in the league.

Look at the players Brighton have had to sell - White, Bissouma, Trossard, Caecido, Mac Allister to name but a few.  Now look at the big players at Brighton who have spent the majority of this season injured - Estupinian, March, Mitoma, Enciso.  Look at the quality of all those players lost combined and De Zerbi still has Brighton 8th, still playing great, expansive, attacking football.

This isn't a league like Portugal where any manager can come and guarantee to be in the top 3 if hes managing Porto, Benfica, Sporting.  This is now comfortably the best league on the planet.  De Zerbi has had his hands tied behind his back with a paltry budget and injury crisis and still he is producing results way above his means with one of the most attractive brands of football in the league.  I'll guarantee you this, when De Zerbi leaves Brighton in the summer, whether that be to Liverpool, Bayern, or some other big club, I guarantee you Brighton will plummet down the table and be fighting relegation within a couple of years.

I can't pretend to know much about the guy managing in the Portuguese league but you've always got to be wary about a manager coming in blind to this league, not knowing anything about English football and the specific teams in this league, also with the possibility of a language barrier.  Personally for me, I think De Zerbi ticks a lot of boxes

- knows the premier league
- attractive, high pressing football that suits the current group of players
- speaks good English
- is fresh, at the start of his managerial career
- is passionate and driven
- has proven capability of working on restrained budgets
- has a clear identity and track record of improving players

Is playing good football enough? It's relatively simple to do so with Brighton, and come away with winning less than 50% of your matches.

Can he be tactically flexible to change games? Can he command the respect of elite players? Can he manage having expectations of winning things and getting top 4 every year? Can he win over what seems like an extremely divided fanbase on him?

Is playing good football in the PL and glorious failure in Europe, with a team admittedly with no right to be there, enough to be Liverpool manager? Because he hasn't shown yet that he can the different challenges he has here, and in fact a lot of results with Brighton this year are a concern - the draws more than anything as that was the killer for Rodgers, a manager with that similar profile - playing good football and not coming away with the goals out pressure may have deserved
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