Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[jackh]

Is it worth the hassle though? Maybe it is, but loads of vaccinated people are carrying and spreading the virus anyway and the vaccine take up has always been high.

It'll still rip through the unvaccinated schools where kids will spread it back to their vaccinated parents.

Based on my assumption that higher proportions of non-vaccinated people (than vaccinated) are carrying & spreading the virus, and presumably at a significantly higher risk of getting severely ill or worse, I'm inclined to think that, yes, it is worth the hassle.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Where's the money coming from?

Magic Money Tree

[lobsterboy]

I just don't get how hundreds of deaths a day is acceptable now. Last year we all were under police lockdown and we had single and double figure deaths some days.

This country is a fucking shambles.

Cutting the social care bill by a different method.

[Fromola]

Ask the NHS, seeing as they are seeing mainly unvaccinated patients being admitted, 75% was the figure I saw the other week.

It shows the virulence of the variant. Unvaccinated aren't going to be shut away at home even if the passports come in though. And there's some settings where vaccine passports are just unworkable (a lot of pubs/shops etc) so they're still going to be spreading the virus, as would the vaccinated.

As I say, i'm not saying don't do it, but for all the hassle it'd be, and the shitstorms, kick offs and marches etc, it's doubtful just how much effect it'd have.

If we have everything open then it's going to spread, passports or not. Unvaccinated schools are a key spreader.

[Red-Soldier]

I just don't get how hundreds of deaths a day is acceptable now. Last year we all were under police lockdown and we had single and double figure deaths some days.

This country is a fucking shambles.

It's acceptable in the same sense that deaths from other illnesses are acceptable I guess.  You cannot shut things down forever.  The majority of people are vaccinated now, 90% of hosp[ital admissions are unvaccinated.

[rob1966]

Fuck fuck fuck, my lads tested positive, rest of us off for tests today

[classycarra]

It's acceptable in the same sense that deaths from other illnesses are acceptable I guess.  You cannot shut things down forever.  The majority of people are vaccinated now, 90% of hosp[ital admissions are unvaccinated.

That's not correct. It may apply to a small subsection - eg a younger age group like 18-29 year olds - in isolation, but the full picture is very different.

In those aged over 50, more than half of overnight hospital inpatient admissions are people who have been fully vaccinated. This may sound counter intuitive or alarming, but it's an indication that the population denominator of people in those age groups that have been vaccinated is so much higher than the number of people not vaccinated.

Source: You can see this in PHE's latest Vaccine Surveillance report this week. Table 3 on pg 14 of the report here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf

Want to make sure I don't leave this on a negative note. Take a look at Figure 5a and 5b on page 25 - the effect the vaccine coverage has had on expected hospitalisations for everyone aged 45 and up is astounding. 

[afc tukrish]

Fuck fuck fuck, my lads tested positive, rest of us off for tests today

 

Hope the rest of the tests come back in the negatory and your lad turns it all into a joyous personal break from school...

[rob1966]

Hope the rest of the tests come back in the negatory and your lad turns it all into a joyous personal break from school...

Oh he's just going to annoy the shit out of us. Youngests birthday is Sunday, he's gutted.

[The G in Gerrard]

Source: You can see this in PHE's latest Vaccine Surveillance report this week. Table 3 on pg 14 of the report here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf

Want to make sure I don't leave this on a negative note. Take a look at Figure 5a and 5b on page 25 - the effect the vaccine coverage has had on expected hospitalisations for everyone aged 45 and up is astounding. 

What's that mean in layman's terms?

[TSC]

35623 new cases and 180 deaths reported today.

[scouseman]

Booster jab booked in for a week on Monday for me

mate has the 3rd booster jab programme started. I know my mum and myself got our second jabs in May? Will it have to be done though a GP again?

[Wabaloolah]

Where's the money coming from?

The Bank of England, the national debt is so high that a few billion more won't make any difference in the grand scheme of things

[Wabaloolah]

Didn't get vaccinated because "he doesn't go out much" - now dead

Wife double jabbed nothing

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/unvaccinated-dad-38-dies-covid-25063850

[Welshred]

mate has the 3rd booster jab programme started. I know my mum and myself got our second jabs in May? Will it have to be done though a GP again?

It has mate yes. You'll be eligible after 6 months. You should be able to book them via the national booking service this time https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/

I was able to book mine through there but my 6 months ends in 4 days time

[Hedley Lamarr]

Didn't get vaccinated because "he doesn't go out much" - now dead

Wife double jabbed nothing

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/unvaccinated-dad-38-dies-covid-25063850

That’s actually a heartbreaking article. Poor kids.

[So… Howard Philips]

That’s actually a heartbreaking article. Poor kids.

Heartbreaking but avoidable. Like not wearing a seat belt or crash helmet avoidable.

[scouseman]

It has mate yes. You'll be eligible after 6 months. You should be able to book them via the national booking service this time https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/

I was able to book mine through there but my 6 months ends in 4 days time

So you need to wait 6 months since your second jab to be able to book your 3rd Jab. So 6 months from May in our case

[Welshred]

So you need to wait 6 months since your second jab to be able to book your 3rd Jab. So 6 months from May in our case

Yes mate, just make a note of when you had your second dose and then use the link to book your booster closer to the time. I've got mine booked for Hornsey Health Centre which would be a breeze for you to get to

[scouseman]

Yes mate, just make a note of when you had your second dose and then use the link to book your booster closer to the time. I've got mine booked for Hornsey Health Centre which would be a breeze for you to get to

thanks mate for always being  reassuring and knowledgeable in such matters. It is very much valued. 

[No666]

mate has the 3rd booster jab programme started. I know my mum and myself got our second jabs in May? Will it have to be done though a GP again?

I got a text with a link to the booking site, so if they've got your mobile it may come that way. I got mine because of having the jab in a trial in December/February, so I show as being beyond the 6 months. It was all amazingly efficient.

[Wabaloolah]

That’s actually a heartbreaking article. Poor kids.

yes I know and needn't have happened

[rob1966]

Didn't get vaccinated because "he doesn't go out much" - now dead

Wife double jabbed nothing

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/unvaccinated-dad-38-dies-covid-25063850

Antu vaxx c*nts spamming the comments section, I wish these twats would fucking get it and die die die.

[Crosby Nick]

Got an email through about vaccination starting soon at my son’s school.

I should know this and I have had a look on government sites and can’t see anything specific but are the vaccines done for someone with allergies and asthma?

[rob1966]

Got an email through about vaccination starting soon at my son’s school.

I should know this and I have had a look on government sites and can’t see anything specific but are the vaccines done for someone with allergies and asthma?

My wife and her sister were both put in Group 6 due to Asthma, both double jabbed by mid May.

[Crosby Nick]

My wife and her sister were both put in Group 6 due to Asthma, both double jabbed by mid May.

Not sure what I meant to type instead of ‘done’ there but just meant is he ok in terms of side effects. More from the allergy point of view than the asthma but I’ll check with the school nurse.

[rob1966]

Not sure what I meant to type instead of ‘done’ there but just meant is he ok in terms of side effects. More from the allergy point of view than the asthma but I’ll check with the school nurse.

The missus was fine after her jab as was her sister and they didn't really make any mention of the asthma when they were giving them the jabs. Your GP will be the best to ask I'd have thought as they know your lad.

[Macphisto80]

Antu vaxx c*nts spamming the comments section, I wish these twats would fucking get it and die die die.

Don't want to read their shite, but what's the jist of their argument here about this?

[FlashingBlade]

Just watched BBC news showing table of select vaccinated countries by %.

UK was 5th with 68%...below it Netherlands on 64%.

yet the official Dutch Health service reporting approx 80% ....so then...someone not telling the truth..surely not the BBC......

[rob1966]

Don't want to read their shite, but what's the jist of their argument here about this?

Just the usual the vaccine kills more than covid, you don't need the vaccine anyway kind of shite.

[redbyrdz]

Just watched BBC news showing table of select vaccinated countries by %.

UK was 5th with 68%...below it Netherlands on 64%.

yet the official Dutch Health service reporting approx 80% ....so then...someone not telling the truth..surely not the BBC......

Weirdly a lot of countries seem to have trouble counting those vaccinated. The mix of vaccine centres, GPs, pop-up vaccine stations seem to make it difficult to get official figures. In the UK, every jab eventually shows up on your NHS record, but not all countries have a centralised health service.

[stoa]

Just watched BBC news showing table of select vaccinated countries by %.

UK was 5th with 68%...below it Netherlands on 64%.

yet the official Dutch Health service reporting approx 80% ....so then...someone not telling the truth..surely not the BBC......

Depends on the number you look at I think. I've had quick look and on the worldwide overview of vaccinations the Netherlands are below the UK in total vaccinations so far and I think the numbers are roughly the same as you're quoting from the BBC (they might have them from there). And I think that's doses in relation to population.
I don't know any real dutch, but from what I understand on their official website it says that as of Monday this week they have administered 23 million doses, a bit more than 12 million first doses and then more than 10 million as second doses. And there it says that 86 percent of all over 18-year-olds have received at least one dose and 80 percent are fully vaccinated. So, they're using only the people over 18. I think that might be where the difference comes from, so the BBC might  have the right numbers...

[moondog]

Don't want to read their shite, but what's the jist of their argument here about this?

Yeah, Unvaccinated Lives Matter apparently.

[FlashingBlade]

Depends on the number you look at I think. I've had quick look and on the worldwide overview of vaccinations the Netherlands are below the UK in total vaccinations so far and I think the numbers are roughly the same as you're quoting from the BBC (they might have them from there). And I think that's doses in relation to population.
I don't know any real dutch, but from what I understand on their official website it says that as of Monday this week they have administered 23 million doses, a bit more than 12 million first doses and then more than 10 million as second doses. And there it says that 86 percent of all over 18-year-olds have received at least one dose and 80 percent are fully vaccinated. So, they're using only the people over 18. I think that might be where the difference comes from, so the BBC might  have the right numbers...

Check out the Dutch Heath service site in English..

https://www.rivm.nl/en

The total vaccine figures are up to date.

They are reporting in the 80% area for vaccines.

the only area they match BBC figures is in 18 to 30 age group.

The Dutch are anal as fuck..as a result they qualify and explain every statement



Dutch inc teen vaccinations which may contribute to discrepancy.

[stoa]

Check out the Dutch Heath service site in English..

https://www.rivm.nl/en

The total vaccine figures are up to date.

They are reporting in the 80% area for vaccines.

the only area they match BBC figures is in 18 to 30 age group.

The Dutch are anal as fuck..as a result they qualify and explain every statement



cant see where  16% discrepancies arises tween them and BBC.

Yes, but they're giving the percentage of vaccinated people in relation to the people who can actually receive the vaccine, which is everyone older than 18 (and in addition to that everyone older than 12 since they've started vaccinating them as well). It says so in their news section:

By Sunday 19 September, it is estimated that 23.4 million vaccinations had been administered in the Netherlands. More than 12.7 million of those were first vaccinations, and more than 10.6 million were second vaccinations. It is estimated that 86.0% of all people over 18 have received a first vaccination, and 82.1% are fully vaccinated. Looking at all people over 12 years old, 83.5% have received a first vaccination, and 79.6% are fully vaccinated.

So, if you only look at the group of people that can get vaccinated (because they are the right age), they have 82.1 or 79.6 (if you include over 12s) fully vaccinated. However, according to wikipedia the Netherlands have a population of 17 million people, if you look at that in relation to vaccinations (by their own numbers, they've administered 23 million doses in total), the percentage is a lot lower than 80 percent and the 60-something percent seems to roughly add up.

Same goes for the UK-numbers. The official numbers say that among the people over 16 years old 89.6 percent have received at least one dose, with 82.1 percent fully vaccinated. Again, that's only the number of vaccinated people in relation to the amount of people who could potentially be vaccinated, because they are 16 years or older. If you look at the total population the percentage is lower and again, the 60-something number adds up. The UK has a population of 66 million people. 93 million doses were administered with 48 million people having gotten their first shot, and 44 million being fully vaccinated.

So, I think it's right that both in the Netherlands and in the UK roughly two thirds of the total population have been vaccinated. It fits the official numbers in both countries.

[FlashingBlade]

I read further into it and amended my initial post to say inc of 12 to 18s...a million so that does swerve it ...plus Jansen is a one dose hit not sure they have in UK....also people who had Covid plus one vaccination deemed vaccinated.

Just goes to prove the adage statistics are like mini skirts.
.they give you an indication of whats going on but you don't see what you really want to.

[Macphisto80]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-who-was-released-from-a-co-donegal-hospital-by-anti-vaccination-campaigners-against-medical-advice-has-died-in-hospital-40886238.html

[Andy @ Allerton!]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-who-was-released-from-a-co-donegal-hospital-by-anti-vaccination-campaigners-against-medical-advice-has-died-in-hospital-40886238.html

Such a waste.

These anti-vaxxers are really scumbags. Surely they can be prosecuted for manslaughter in this instance?

Poor fella. Terrified for his life, panicking, doesn't know what to believe and they con him into basically suicide. Absolutely tragic.

[BarryCrocker]

Such a waste.

These anti-vaxxers are really scumbags. Surely they can be prosecuted for manslaughter in this instance?

Poor fella. Terrified for his life, panicking, doesn't know what to believe and they con him into basically suicide. Absolutely tragic.

You just know the anti-vaxxers are going to claim they were right in their call that he would die in hospital.

[PaulF]

Easy to say this with hindsight, but why are the family slamming his 'friends' now. Where were they when he was being discharged?
I doubt the medical staff could have called security \ the police to get the anti vaxxers removed for endangering life. But they should be able to.