Topic: Serie A

[Drinks Sangria]

Obviously not the same thing, but it's been done before!

True! Maybe I should've said they can't afford to remove them from the league structure entirely!

That season, Serie B jumped up to the 6th most watched league in Europe, when previously it was around the 17th. It then dropped back down to 15th when Juve got promoted.

[disgraced cake]

AC Milan cruising against Torino, if they win their final two after this they'll be back in the Champions League for the first time in several years. Juventus have Inter next too, which will be tough even after Inter are already home and dry.

[aw1991]

AC Milan cruising against Torino, if they win their final two after this they'll be back in the Champions League for the first time in several years. Juventus have Inter next too, which will be tough even after Inter are already home and dry.

The pressure is all on Juve. Inter wouldn't give them an easy life as well. Pretty much everyone in Italy are rooting against Juventus.

[sinnermichael]

Top 4 in Italy all winning so Juventus still 5th.

AC Milan 7-0 up.

[Ray K]

Top 4 in Italy all winning so Juventus still 5th.

AC Milan 7-0 up.

All without Big Nose slowing everything down and hogging all the limelight.

I'm sure we can all agree that the funniest outcome of the remaining games - apart from Juventus not finishing in the top 4 - would be for Roma to qualify for the Europa Conference thingy next season.

[Scottymuser]

How was that a penalty?  Ronaldo missed the pen, but put in the rebound anyway, but for me, was not a pen in the first place

[b_joseph]

Juve 2-2 and down to 10 men...its bleak

Oh my goodness...penalty for Juve. Pretty soft but I dont know these days

[CalgarianRed]

Wild game, even the Cheillini OG was harsh, seemed like a fouled by Lukaku. Keeps Juve alive in the top 4 race.

The Milan/Atalanta game will be huge and possibly a shootout for top 4.

[DelTrotter]

Wild game, even the Cheillini OG was harsh, seemed like a fouled by Lukaku. Keeps Juve alive in the top 4 race.

The Milan/Atalanta game will be huge and possibly a shootout for top 4.

Atalanta are already guaranteed top 4 now, Milan too if they beat Cagliari. Juve need to hope Fiorentina don't roll over tomorrow to screw them.

[Drinks Sangria]

Definitely was not a penalty. Keeps things poised with two games left. Torino staying up through the collective incompetence of the teams below them, rather than their own quality. Awful season for them.

[CalgarianRed]

Atalanta are already guaranteed top 4 now, Milan too if they beat Cagliari. Juve need to hope Fiorentina don't roll over tomorrow to screw them.

Oh, did not check the head to heads. Fiorentina are dismal this season, Napoli should beat them anyways.

[BobPaisley3]

Oh, did not check the head to heads. Fiorentina are dismal this season, Napoli should beat them anyways.

Without saying Fiorentina will throw the game, it’s safe to say that a large section of their fans will be cheering on Napoli.

[Fromola]

Napoli are notorious bottle jobs though.

[BobPaisley3]

This is also true. It’s definitely the decisive game now though, Napoli win and they’re in.

[DelTrotter]

That was a lovely goal. Big deflection but still, nice move.

[OOS]

Down to Milan later to complete the 'keeping Juve out of CL' alive.

Milan last game of the season is against Atalanta. Napoli is against Verona and Juventus is against Bolonga.

[disgraced cake]

Napoli close to the CL again. Think Gattuso has done a good job. If they can keep they're best players and add a few more they could really be pushing themselves to challenge over the next couple of seasons.

[Dan The Man 28373]

With the results this weekend, it looks like Juve have to win their last game vs Bologna & hope 1 of Napoli or Milan don't win. Napoli & Milan have to match Juve's result for Juve to miss out on CL.

If points are equal, Milan would be ahead of Napoli & Juve (better GD in head to heads), Napoli would be head of Juve (better overall GD as the head to head is 1 win each & 2 goals for & 2 against).

Could be an interesting last day.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Napoli close to the CL again. Think Gattuso has done a good job. If they can keep they're best players and add a few more they could really be pushing themselves to challenge over the next couple of seasons.

I think so as well. he won them a cup last year, and he's close to bringing them back to Europe again.

[Drinks Sangria]

Napoli close to the CL again. Think Gattuso has done a good job. If they can keep they're best players and add a few more they could really be pushing themselves to challenge over the next couple of seasons.

This may not be 100% verified but I’d heard Gattuso is leaving at the end of the season? He’s done a decent job though and quite some turnaround after the revolt during Ancelotti’s time.

Unfortunately, it’s long been the same with Napoli - so close. Always coming second to Juve, often falling away after leading. This year, Juve haven’t been the challenge but Inter have stepped up and Napoli’s own form has been poor by their standards, albeit they’ve been very good of late.

[DelTrotter]

I think so as well. he won them a cup last year, and he's close to bringing them back to Europe again.

Yep, he's doing a really decent job there, baffled by the reports every week that he's leaving and so are the players judging by some of the goals they've celebrated with him. 79 points and CL qualification is a good haul if they win next week and scoring fuck loads of goals again, not sure what's going on but if they are sacking him I think that'd be a bit mad. Thought he done decent at Milan too, nearly getting them back in the CL given how bad that squad was at the time was pretty good.

[Drinks Sangria]

Yep, he's doing a really decent job there, baffled by the reports every week that he's leaving and so are the players judging by some of the goals they've celebrated with him. 79 points and CL qualification is a good haul if they win next week and scoring fuck loads of goals again, not sure what's going on but if they are sacking him I think that'd be a bit mad. Thought he done decent at Milan too, nearly getting them back in the CL given how bad that squad was at the time was pretty good.

The talk amongst locals is of a personality clash with De Laurentiis (surprise surprise) and that Gattuso hasn’t settled in Naples and wants to move north again. He’s being linked heavily with the Fiorentina job (which could work but he’d have meagre talent at his disposal).

De Laurentiis has been flirting with Sarri in the press and I’d imagine, in his mind, as Sarri got them so close, he may believe he can take them all the way next season if Juve continue to flounder and Inter have to sell key players. It’s not that implausible or stupid by De Laurentiis, although it seems a shame to deny Gattuso’s potential to do the same.

[Caligula?]

Juventus will easily beat Bologna. Atalanta are already there and Napoli will beat Verona. That leaves Milan needing a win against Atalanta.

They massively fucked up by not beating Cagliari at home today. I reckon Milan will finish 5th. Juventus could have been done today.

[Dave McCoy]

Terrible result for Milan but I'm pretty sure Juve don't have any of the tiebreakers in their favor so odds are still good they miss out.

[Caligula?]

Terrible result for Milan but I'm pretty sure Juve don't have any of the tiebreakers in their favor so odds are still good they miss out.

Juve need to beat Bologna which means Milan would need to beat Atalanta. I think Juve's job is far easier.

[elsewhere]

Juve need to beat Bologna which means Milan would need to beat Atalanta. I think Juve's job is far easier.

Atalanta already guaranteed top 4 so I can see them resting a lot of players for that match.

[DelTrotter]

The talk amongst locals is of a personality clash with De Laurentiis (surprise surprise) and that Gattuso hasn’t settled in Naples and wants to move north again. He’s being linked heavily with the Fiorentina job (which could work but he’d have meagre talent at his disposal).

De Laurentiis has been flirting with Sarri in the press and I’d imagine, in his mind, as Sarri got them so close, he may believe he can take them all the way next season if Juve continue to flounder and Inter have to sell key players. It’s not that implausible or stupid by De Laurentiis, although it seems a shame to deny Gattuso’s potential to do the same.

Ah, cheers mate, yeah that's no surprise at all given both could start a fight in an empty room  Sarri going back would be interesting, they are only a couple of pieces away I think so if they have a good summer, some more good coaching they'd have a cracking chance. Gattuso would be a good appointment for Fiorentina but he'd need some time and cash spent, would love to see them get good again, always liked them, quality city, all the boss players they've had over the years and weirdly I love the goal nets they have 

[Phil M]

Fascinating final day ahead.

I think if Napoli win and Atalanta draw, Napoli would take 2nd on h2h GD. Napoli beat Atalanta 4-1 at home and lost 2-4 away so they'd be +1 on h2h GD.
Juventus can finish as high as 3rd if they win and Milan draw/lose and Napoli draw/lose.
Atalanta will secure 2nd with a win v Milan but draw or lose and they could drop to 4th if Napoli win.
if Milan beat Atalanta they go to 79pts but would finish 3rd below Napoli on their h2h record if Napoli win.

Atalanta v Milan
Napoli v Verona
Bologna v Juve

Atalanta 78pts
Milan 76pts
Napoli 76pts
Juve 75pts

[Dull Tools]

Fascinating final day ahead.

I think if Napoli win and Atalanta draw, Napoli would take 2nd on h2h GD. Napoli beat Atalanta 4-1 at home and lost 2-4 away so they'd be +1 on h2h GD.
Juventus can finish as high as 3rd if they win and Milan draw/lose and Napoli draw/lose.
Atalanta will secure 2nd with a win v Milan but draw or lose and they could drop to 4th if Napoli win.
if Milan beat Atalanta they go to 79pts but would finish 3rd below Napoli on their h2h record if Napoli win.

Atalanta v Milan
Napoli v Verona
Bologna v Juve

Atalanta 78pts
Milan 76pts
Napoli 76pts
Juve 75pts

Milan really fucked up not winning at the weekend.

Also Juve of course get a penalty in the 90th minute. They are definitely going to get in unfortunately.

[Dull Tools]

Atalanta already guaranteed top 4 so I can see them resting a lot of players for that match.

Hopefully to fuck over Juve. Will be good for the whole of Serie A if they don't get top 4.

[Phil M]

They are definitely going to get in unfortunately.

Nothing definite about it to be honest. It's not in their hands. A draw will do Milan. Napoli just need to win at home where their form has been excellent and v a team with nothing to play for.

Coppa final on Weds too of course - Atalanta v Juve

[Elzar]

Is Pirlo going to be there next season? Have they finished with that experiment now?

[rafathegaffa83]

Is Pirlo going to be there next season? Have they finished with that experiment now?

I think he'll be gone. Was a daft decision given his lack of experience.

[Dave McCoy]

Trying to find an explainer for the Serie A tiebreakers as they are a bit confusing.

[Fromola]

Trying to find an explainer for the Serie A tiebreakers as they are a bit confusing.

I think Atalanta, Napoli and Milan beat Juve on the head to head, but if Juve win their last game they sneak in if Milan or Napoli don't win.

Pathetic of Milan not to beat Cagliari at home, they'd have been confirmed top 4. Now they'll probably have to win away at Atalanta. Atalanta may not be that up for it though after a cup final in midweek and if they lose to Juve, they'll be less keen to do them a favour, perhaps.

Atalanta/Inter also have a friendly relationship with the fans IIRC. However, Inter would probably prefer Juve miss out.

[Dave McCoy]

I think Atalanta, Napoli and Milan beat Juve on the head to head, but if Juve win their last game they sneak in if Milan or Napoli don't win.

Pathetic of Milan not to beat Cagliari at home, they'd have been confirmed top 4. Now they'll probably have to win away at Atalanta. Atalanta may not be that up for it though after a cup final in midweek and if they lose to Juve, they'll be less keen to do them a favour, perhaps.

I believe Juve lose the tiebreaker to all of them but am trying to get that confirmed.  Have been trying to find a tip sheet or something similar.

[Fromola]

I believe Juve lose the tiebreaker to all of them but am trying to get that confirmed.  Have been trying to find a tip sheet or something similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%9321_Serie_A

In fairness to Juve they'd sneak in with 78 points. Has any team missed a CL place with that many (with top 4 qualifying)?

[Dull Tools]

Nothing definite about it to be honest. It's not in their hands. A draw will do Milan. Napoli just need to win at home where their form has been excellent and v a team with nothing to play for.

Coppa final on Weds too of course - Atalanta v Juve

  A draw won't do Milan. They are on 76 points. A point gets them to 77 points. Juve get 78 points with a win.

Milan have to win.

[arthur sarnoff]

I'm not saying it would be funny if everyone collaborated to fuck Juve over.

No, sorry, I am.

[elsewhere]

I'm not saying it would be funny if everyone collaborated to fuck Juve over.

No, sorry, I am.

exactly, and i am pretty sure they will do just that.
chelsea-juve in europa league should be fun.