Topic: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

[mullyred94]

We sold Fabinho for 50 but people want to sell Mo for 30-40?

Some people honestly shouldn't be allowed to post on this forum 

[yes]

We sold Fabinho for 50 but people want to sell Mo for 30-40?

Some people honestly shouldn't be allowed to post on this forum 

By the start of next season he will be 32. Nobody other than the Saudis will be paying anything over £40m for him and you'd be kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
The alternative is to lose out on a transfer fee, keep paying him his astronomical wages and blocking a new player coming in who is likely to be crucial for the future of the club.
In that scenario the only way the gamble of keeping him pays off is if we win one of the big two next year AND that he plays a big part in us doing so otherwise what's the point?
Nostalgia doesn't pay the bills or win trophies and a club with finite resources needs to box clever, or at least not stupid. In the same contract situation prime Kane goes for around £82m (and that's with a clutch of potential suitors driving the price up rather than just an oil rich league looking for a poster boy) but some on here think a 32 year old Salah is worth more than that? Wow.

[mullyred94]

By the start of next season he will be 32. Nobody other than the Saudis will be paying anything over £40m for him and you'd be kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
The alternative is to lose out on a transfer fee, keep paying him his astronomical wages and blocking a new player coming in who is likely to be crucial for the future of the club.
In that scenario the only way the gamble of keeping him pays off is if we win one of the big two next year AND that he plays a big part in us doing so otherwise what's the point?
Nostalgia doesn't pay the bills or win trophies and a club with finite resources needs to box clever, or at least not stupid. In the same contract situation prime Kane goes for around £82m (and that's with a clutch of potential suitors driving the price up rather than just an oil rich league looking for a poster boy) but some on here think a 32 year old Salah is worth more than that? Wow.

Yes I do think his worth more than that mate his put up over 20 G/As I'm not even gonna explain my self I dont care his 32.

Do you not think with shirt sales etc over the next 12 months they'll make 5-10m on his name alone?

His name is worth more than 40m. PSG would probably give us a decent fee aswell as he would WALK that league and replace a good chunk of Mbappes output while having a superstar name already. Again shirt sales.

[yes]

Yes I do think his worth more than that mate his put up over 20 G/As I'm not even gonna explain my self I dont care his 32.

I know and my daughter is the best daughter in the world but I can't explain that in rational terms either. We're all guilty of it in one way or another I suppose.

[mullyred94]

I know and my daughter is the best daughter in the world but I can't explain that in rational terms either. We're all guilty of it in one way or another I suppose.

Salah has 26 goal involvements in 26 games in the league right?

Whats your daughter up too lad?

Lets say he gets 20-25 G/A next season. Isn't that worth more than 30 million???

Who would you get with double that money to replace his output?

[yes]

Yes I do think his worth more than that mate his put up over 20 G/As I'm not even gonna explain my self I dont care his 32.

Do you not think with shirt sales etc over the next 12 months they'll make 5-10m on his name alone?

His name is worth more than 40m. PSG would probably give us a decent fee aswell as he would WALK that league and replace a good chunk of Mbappes output while having a superstar name already. Again shirt sales.

"I'm not going to explain myself"

* Explains himself *

[mullyred94]

"I'm not going to explain myself"

* Explains himself *

Great input to the debate 

[carling]

Saudi would still have to pay a mint for him, I don't think it should be much less than they were offering last summer.  He's still only 31 and would hit 20 goals in any league in the world for the next few years.  He'd be on that for Liverpool now if he didn't go to AFCON.

If Bayern will pay £100m for 30 year old Harry Kane to jinx them, then what's Salah worth to a country with unlimited funds..

[Hestoic]

Has he even intimated that he'd go to Saudi? Everyone for the past year has talked like selling him to Saudi is a foregone conclusion whenever we feel like it. I don't see him going there ever.

[Draex]

Has he even intimated that he'd go to Saudi? Everyone for the past year has talked like selling him to Saudi is a foregone conclusion whenever we feel like it. I don't see him going there ever.

When someone offers you £1mil per week I think it makes your mind up for you, especially with his agent.

[[new username under construction]]

Not just a footballer for Saudi etc is he, he's an Icon so get that moolah out

[jillcwhomever]

A lot of people seem to be pushing this Saudi line with Mo, but he's already had the experience of being used by his own Football Association and he wasn't keen about that. He still has ambitions to win things. It seems crazy to me that people ignore that Bayern spent millions on Kane and think other clubs wouldn't do the same for Salah.

[Garlic Red]

A lot of people seem to be pushing this Saudi line with Mo, but he's already had the experience of being used by his own Football Association and he wasn't keen about that. He still has ambitions to win things. It seems crazy to me that people ignore that Bayern spent millions on Kane and think other clubs wouldn't do the same for Salah.

Only if they sell Sane, which I suppose is in a bit of limbo at the moment as with everything else at that club.

I think he’d be a fantastic signing for one of the Serie A giants, he’d start for all of them but I imagine only Juventus would stump up the cash, if they’re not burned by the Ronaldo signing. PSG could be an option, they have versatile forwards that could move across the front line, or he could always play up front for them.

[thejbs]

Fucking grim state of affairs that our fans are crying out for a dirty Saudi money injection. Would rather see mo leave on a free, to be honest.

[jepovic]

We are in a great position here. If hes sold, we get tons of money.
If he stays, we have a great player.

 I for one would be excited to see how a new manager would use him. He fits increasingly worse into the classic Klopp winger role, and maybe a new role in a different system would be better

[jillcwhomever]

We are in a great position here. If hes sold, we get tons of money.
If he stays, we have a great player.

 I for one would be excited to see how a new manager would use him. He fits increasingly worse into the classic Klopp winger role, and maybe a new role in a different system would be better

It's more about money now, then actual football.

The second line I agree with.

[jillcwhomever]

Only if they sell Sane, which I suppose is in a bit of limbo at the moment as with everything else at that club.

I think he’d be a fantastic signing for one of the Serie A giants, he’d start for all of them but I imagine only Juventus would stump up the cash, if they’re not burned by the Ronaldo signing. PSG could be an option, they have versatile forwards that could move across the front line, or he could always play up front for them.

I'm not saying he'd go to Bayern just that it's a joke that other clubs wouldn't offer money for a player like Salah. I think he's got a lot left yet, this is the first real injury he's had overall, his fitness levels going through his career have been insane. It's natural that it would take him longer to get over the injury. But people are always in a hurry to be shot of people even a player of Salah's class.

[filopastry]

Its going to be an "interesting" summer generally with some big contracts with 1 year to go and new management and people running the football side of things.

Plus we have no idea what Mo wants to do anyway.

I struggle to imagine the new leadership at the club offering a multi-year extension to Mo on something like current wages, even a single season extension has a bit less value as I presume that rolls into another AFCON year, and this is the second straight AFCON year where it feels like Mo has really struggled to regain form after returning.

[mullyred94]

Saudi would still have to pay a mint for him, I don't think it should be much less than they were offering last summer.  He's still only 31 and would hit 20 goals in any league in the world for the next few years.  He'd be on that for Liverpool now if he didn't go to AFCON.

If Bayern will pay £100m for 30 year old Harry Kane to jinx them, then what's Salah worth to a country with unlimited funds..

17 in 26 in the EPL is still amazing.

He'd score a goal a game if not more in Saudi, IMO he'd still walk ligue 1 and maybe serie A.

Basically still one of the best players in the EPL in terms of G/A

[Hestoic]

Only if they sell Sane, which I suppose is in a bit of limbo at the moment as with everything else at that club.

I think he’d be a fantastic signing for one of the Serie A giants, he’d start for all of them but I imagine only Juventus would stump up the cash, if they’re not burned by the Ronaldo signing. PSG could be an option, they have versatile forwards that could move across the front line, or he could always play up front for them.

Off topic but I'd love to have Sane at Liverpool, I think he's a great player that would fit our system well. Plus it would wind up Abu Dhabi.

[filopastry]

17 in 26 in the EPL is still amazing.

He'd score a goal a game if not more in Saudi, IMO he'd still walk ligue 1 and maybe serie A.

Basically still one of the best players in the EPL in terms of G/A

7 attempted penalties in there with 5 scored which boosts the numbers a little, still very good obviously

[mullyred94]

7 attempted penalties in there with 5 scored which boosts the numbers a little, still very good obviously

As others have mentioned as well his play making is still there, and if we are to judge him on what we know him to be probably should have another 5ish goals as some of his finishing has been wayward.

I'd rather cash in on Diaz if PSG want to pay 70m as he'd be easier to replace than Salah which I don't think anyone would argue with.

Let him walk  ( hopefully get 1-2 extension ) unless its 100m its worth more to keep him then to sell for 30-40m IMO.

With a new manager in I would keep Salah even for 12 months because his probably the only player apart from Jota to get 15-20 league goals and it would be too much change for Klopp and Salah to go at once.

[MosDefKop]

It seems to be generally agreed that Salah is in decline but remains a very good player.
However, it is madness to keep paying him £350-400k per week. It would also be madness to let him go for free when we turned down £150m a year ago.

I think things, if not by design, has worked out as well as could be hoped for.
He is at that magic point where he has declined enough to sell without upsetting fans too much, yet still good enough to get a decent fee.

I think it is sensible to give the new manager a clean slate and release him from the handcuffs of having to fit Salah in the team even if he does not merit it.  It was a blessing for Klopp not to have to be the one to drop Gerrard or try shoe horn him in.  I would be very surprised if he stays for next year. Hard to say how much we would get for him, but certain the Saudis will over pay. Right now with Kane better, I would be delighted if we got any more than the £82m Kane went for.

So, not a problem. But he will be missed, always loved and an absolute top tier legend.

(Sane has been mentioned, great replacement but would be even more pleased with Isak with his chance conversion stats, if Diaz also leaves then there is room for both)

[Coolie High]

A 28 year old Sane with 8 goals and 11 assists is apparently a good replacement for Salah. A player who hasn’t scored more than 10 goals playing for Bayern in a more open league than the PL.

Just to show how much people are underrating Salah on here.

[Coolie High]

Leroy Sane is a top player by the way, one of the better wide forwards around, I’m not sure if he would be a great replacement for Salah though, in fact I’m not quite sure who would be.

Would probably be best served buying a younger player like Bakayoko, and allow him to play alongside Salah or deputise for him for a season or two before moving Salah on.

[MosDefKop]

A 28 year old Sane with 8 goals and 11 assists is apparently a good replacement for Salah. A player who hasn’t scored more than 10 goals playing for Bayern in a more open league than the PL.

Just to show how much people are underrating Salah on here.

I personally would look to replace Salah's goal with a proper prolific Number nine such as Isak.
The pace Sane clearly still has would stretch teams and be devastating on the counter. Isak is lightening as well.

[mullyred94]

A 28 year old Sane with 8 goals and 11 assists is apparently a good replacement for Salah. A player who hasn’t scored more than 10 goals playing for Bayern in a more open league than the PL.

Just to show how much people are underrating Salah on here.

There isn't a replacement, who ever we sign will most likely be a downgrade unless they do what Salah did when he first signed.

EDIT - No chance anyone replicates what he did when signed can't see it.

[farawayred]

Salah's record is skewed by the penalties. He has 12 non-penalty goals and 5 penalties. Give the penalties to Macca, and we'd be looking to replace 12 goals and 9 assists. That is still a lot, it would take a great player, but it's a completely different player profile than the Salah of 2-3 years ago.

[mullyred94]

I personally would look to replace Salah's goal with a proper prolific Number nine such as Isak.
The pace Sane clearly still has would stretch teams and be devastating on the counter. Isak is lightening as well.

Theres not a single player we could sign that would replace his goals, it would likely take two signings hitting the ground to replicate his output.

We have to get more out of Diaz also or upgrade to someone else more effective.

Its going to take 2-3 players to replace Salahs 30-40 goals in all comps.

In an ideal world Nunez hits potential aswell and becomes a 20+ PL scorer.

[Coolie High]

Salah's record is skewed by the penalties. He has 12 non-penalty goals and 5 penalties. Give the penalties to Macca, and we'd be looking to replace 12 goals and 9 assists. That is still a lot, it would take a great player, but it's a completely different player profile than the Salah of 2-3 years ago.

I’m sure he scored a similar amount of penalties in the 21/22 season and 20/21 season.

[Draex]

Salah is 1.09 goals and assists per 90

Olise is 0.97
Jota is 1.01
Nunez is 0.91

Gakpo is 0.66
Diaz is 0.5

Olise would be a great pick up, £65mil release clause, and getting the rest of our attackers fit and firing.

If we sold Salah of course, he wouldn't be top of my list of outgoings this summer.

[killer-heels]

Salah is 1.09 goals and assists per 90

Olise is 0.97
Jota is 1.01
Nunez is 0.91

Gakpo is 0.66
Diaz is 0.5

Olise would be a great pick up, and getting the rest of our attackers fit and firing.

If we sold Salah of course, he wouldn't be top of my list of outgoings this summer.

Olise loves an injury

[MonsLibpool]

We don't need to "replace" him neither did we need to replace Coutinho.

Strengthen the team because it's a "team" game at the end of the day.

[Sinyoro]

Salah is 1.09 goals and assists per 90

Olise is 0.97
Jota is 1.01
Nunez is 0.91

Gakpo is 0.66
Diaz is 0.5

Olise would be a great pick up, £65mil release clause, and getting the rest of our attackers fit and firing.

If we sold Salah of course, he wouldn't be top of my list of outgoings this summer.

How is Kudus?

[killer-heels]

We don't need to "replace" him neither did we need to replace Coutinho.

Strengthen the team because it's a "team" game at the end of the day.

We didnt need to replace Coutinho because Coutinho wasnt our best player or our best attacker.

Same with Mane. Its a different story now with Salah and no amount of supposed teamwork with our remaining attackers makes up for it.

We are up against Man City and the only time we have competed is when we have had several world class players. Most of those havent been replaced and we are not competing on teamwork alone.

[Coolie High]

We don't need to "replace" him neither did we need to replace Coutinho.

Strengthen the team because it's a "team" game at the end of the day.

We strengthened our team with VVD and Alisson + Fabinho, not only is there not anyone on the market comparable to those three but there also isn’t a big gap in our team we had then. When we replaced Coutinho we still had a Salah who was in the midst of having arguably the best season in PL history, and Mane too.

Completely different circumstances, any marginal gain we can make from improving our a team and squad which is already good, can be done with Salah in the team.

We don’t need to spend hundreds of millions this summer, the squad doesn’t call for it.

[thegoodfella]

This whole "selling Salah to invest" narrative is rather small time. Keep him around until he stops scoring goals or making assists altogether, he is a leader and the perfect role model for the attacking lineup entire team.

[MonsLibpool]

We didnt need to replace Coutinho because Coutinho wasnt our best player or our best attacker.

Same with Mane. Its a different story now with Salah and no amount of supposed teamwork with our remaining attackers makes up for it.

We are up against Man City and the only time we have competed is when we have had several world class players. Most of those havent been replaced and we are not competing on teamwork alone.

It's about addressing  our weaknesses. For example,  1 goal will be enough more often than not if we tighten up and start keeping more clean sheets.

Coutinho was our best player at that point but we can agree to disagree.  With respect to "world clas" almost all of them to a man weren't "world class" when we signed them.

[MonsLibpool]

We strengthened our team with VVD and Alisson + Fabinho, not only is there not anyone on the market comparable to those three but there also isn’t a big gap in our team we had then. When we replaced Coutinho we still had a Salah who was in the midst of having arguably the best season in PL history, and Mane too.

Completely different circumstances, any marginal gain we can make from improving our a team and squad which is already good, can be done with Salah in the team.

We don’t need to spend hundreds of millions this summer, the squad doesn’t call for it.

Improving defensively and not going a goal down 20 times? is not a marginal gain mate

But it's just one example.

[Coolie High]

Improving defensively and not going a goal down 20 times? is not a marginal gain mate

But it's just one example.

We can do that without selling Salah.