Topic: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh

[Fordy]

So now you rate Henderson?

No, but due to Gerrard leaving and him being VC he could demand 100k at least as he is in line to be the next captain of liverpool Fc.

[killer-heels]

Sturridge signed a new contract in excess of 100k. We gave Suarez 200k.

[Silly Effin' Pidl]

Re. the upcoming home game against Tottenham, perhaps we're destined  to beat them 2-0, John. This would nicely maintain the pattern [5-0 then 4-0 then 3-0] of consecutive wins against them ?

[CHOPPER]

Sturridge signed a new contract in excess of 100k. We gave Suarez 200k.

And?

[Anonymous5]

Both sterling and Hendo could demand 100k wages per week if they want. It should come as no shock if we lose both of them.

The club are creating a problem by this stance they seem to be having.

Excuse me what?  Hendo? demanding 100k a week? Don't get me wrong I think hes a very good player but he hasnt done enough to earn 100k a week. With that wage, between 100k-120k a week we could bring in a TOP quality CM

[bodhisattva]

Both sterling and Hendo could demand 100k wages per week if they want. It should come as no shock if we lose both of them.

The club are creating a problem by this stance they seem to be having.

yes we need to get our key players to sign new contracts but we're not in a position at the moment to throw huge wages at players, with the increase in revenue from the expanded Anfield that will help. We're also going to lose a couple of very big wage earner in the summer so the money should be there its all about spending it wisely. I don't think the owners have a problem spending big money on the right players, they've shown that with the Red Sox, but i think they and Brendan too are all about keeping the players hungry and part of that is rewarding them for performing well but not overpaying them before they've "earned it"

I don't see Henderson leaving, hes the next captain and fought hard to stay here, Sterling im not sure but you'd hope he's getting good advice and hes at a club that have helped him a lot with a manager thats shown a lot of faith in him.

[killer-heels]

And?

Response to the people saying we dont give players big money.

[bodhisattva]

And?

so there's not a policy by the owners not to pay more than 100k

[Jake]

We went closer to winning the league with the latter choices in midfield than with the former, so maybe the question that should be asked is: having a midfield of world class players really necessary for wining this league?

Yeah dragged by Suarez and Sturridge.

Point still stands in how much worse our midfield is than it was. If you take away our one decent striker our striking options are fucking woeful (I'll admit they were then too, Keane and Ngog still > Lambert and Borini though) and Carra and Sami > Skrtel and Sakho (I like Sakho mind). Reina > Mignolet too. Riise and Finnan > Moreno and Glen.

So we're worse in every single area apart from our attacking midfielders. Hence why we play a team of them.

[CHOPPER]

Response to the people saying we dont give players big money.

Aaaah, soz. Excuse my arsey-pissedness.

And no, you can't marry me. Let me make that abundantly clear.

[Haggis36]

It is important but this season its not a be all and end all situation. Not long ago there were serious concerns over whether Rodgers would survive the winter and I didnt think he could ever assemble a side that could defend. Well through his tactical ability he has shown he can and as well the likes of Coutinho, Can and Lucas have shone.

I dunno, we found it difficult enough to attract top quality players this year (most of our successes have been relatively unknown/unproven players) when we were actually in the CL, it'd doubly hard without it and we don't have the money to overcompensate in the way that Utd (or even Arsenal, if they were to miss out) do.

Arguments like "oh we're only 4 points off" (it could be 6 by the end of play tomorrow, lets not forget) are all good and well if you're chasing one team, but we need three out of four teams to start slipping up, and when they do we need to be able to capitalise. One of those teams is playing solely in the league, one is playing in only the league and FA Cup. We looked fucked today and we're only just starting probably our busiest period of the season.

We've been on a great run since what I consider to be our turnaround against Utd, but lets be real we've played only two teams from the top 8 in that period (one of which was West bloody Ham), both at home, and the half of those games came against genuine relegation candidates (Burnley, Leicester, Sunderland, Villa). We've probably got a tougher fixture list than any of the other competing teams (with games against every other top 7 team - Utd and Spurs (5), Soton (4) and Arsenal (3) all have less.

I mean obviously it's not over till it's over, but it'd need an epic run of form and a bit of luck on our part.

[diegoLFC7]

From the coin toss i knew Gerrard wasn't up for it. I was surprised by his performance, i really thought he would have his best game. Ibe impressed me, that role looks so natural for him. Bad result, as everton are shite.

[Fordy]

Excuse me what?  Hendo? demanding 100k a week? Don't get me wrong I think hes a very good player but he hasnt done enough to earn 100k a week. With that wage, between 100k-120k a week we could bring in a TOP quality CM

Laugh all you want but as future Liverpool captain why on earth would he sign a contract for less.

His agent currently has the club by the balls. Being captain of lfc is a massive job.

It's not a case of rating him or not.

[Always_A_Red]

so there's not a policy by the owners not to pay more than 100k

But the does seem to be with new players. We seem to reward players who have hit certain targets once they are here but in terms of bringing a player in straight on £150k for example, it has yet to be seen.

[Samie]

Both sterling and Hendo could demand 100k wages per week if they want. It should come as no shock if we lose both of them.

The club are creating a problem by this stance they seem to be having.

Sturridge and Coutinho signed contract's recently.  So we're clearly giving players what we think they're worth.

[Jake]

We have XI players in our entire roster I think are, or will be, good enough to play for LFC (not counting U18s I don't know enough) and with a few I was being generous.

Apologies for the ranting I'm just so pissed off with football.

[karl740]

That's the thing that could stop us from making top 4, not our ability. But Spurs will have exactly the same problems as us.

Watched the spurs game today. They have played the most games this season, have no injuries and look to have plenty of energy. Opposite to us it seems.

[Jake]

But the does seem to be with new players. We seem to reward players who have hit certain targets once they are here but in terms of bringing a player in straight on £150k for example, it has yet to be seen.

Yep, we should have spent the Suarez money on a Suarez replacement and a Gerrard replacement and thrown big fat contracts at them.

[Bunter]

Gerrard seems to lose a yard every week, just looks so off the pace nowadays. Yes he can pop up with a free kick every now and then but even his delivery today was piss poor and you can't have him in for sentimental reasons waiting for a one off piece of magic. I'll be surprised if he starts many games from now until the season ends, just not cutting it in our system and it hurts to watch him toil out there thanklessly.

[jepovic]

Gerrard's set pieces have degraded significantly, but I don't understand why. We're generally piss poor with set pieces again. Stupid short passes, or just plain improvisation. Pathetic for a professional team.

[Jake]

Can any of the stattos say how many of our dead balls have hit the first man? I think it's about 78%. Count short corners/quick fks and I'd say about 98.3%

[macca888]

Meh. Damp squib of a game in the end. They did fuck all and were happy yet again to settle for a replay in their cup final.

As I said in another thread, they launched that many balls into the air for Lukaku, they should be renamed the school of fucking rocket science.

We were the only team that tried to win, battered them for most of the game and coped easily with their shithouse tactics.

Yet again, the first sign of a dropped point and the usual fucking nobheads are starting slating our own, throwing the towel in and telling everyone that the sky is falling in.

Doom mongers of the world can just fuck off tonight. I'm not in the mood for it and I could do without the ban, so I'm getting off.

[bodhisattva]

But the does seem to be with new players. We seem to reward players who have hit certain targets once they are here but in terms of bringing a player in straight on £150k for example, it has yet to be seen.

I think thats more to do with the type of players we're targeting, there's obviously been a decision to try and identify young players with the potential to become top class players, someone like Can for example if we waited 2-3 years we'd probably not be able to get him when he's more of the finished article because we'd be competing with most of Europe. The same goes for someone like Markovic if he continues an upward improvement.

Personally id like us to try and add 2 or 3 players in that 24-26 year range to go along with the very good young group of players we have.

[Durlmints]

Laugh all you want but as future Liverpool captain why on earth would he sign a contract for less.

His agent currently has the club by the balls. Being captain of lfc is a massive job.

What a load of tosh.

Absolute tosh that is.

Firstly, Rickie Lambert captained the side earlier this season, last year our vice captain left for £3m to Brondby. The other vice captain was Suarez and he went too. So there isn't really that much about being a Rodgers captain that guarantees anything at all.

Secondly, If you think Henderson would be captain of any other top 5 team then you're having a laugh. He would know that himself. What's he going to do? Who else would offer Henderson close to that wage anyway? Chelsea? City? Arsenal? He wouldn't be captain of any of them, let alone if they even would want him.

[CHOPPER]

Can any of the stattos say how many of our dead balls have hit the first man? I think it's about 78%. Count short corners/quick fks and I'd say about 98.3%

Eleventy thumb point nuffin ate snacks. Now you can go to bed..........

[Samie]

Lukaku how many times was he offside today? Must have reached Djbril Cisse levels. 

[Fiasco]

Meh. Damp squib of a game in the end. They did fuck all and were happy yet again to settle for a replay in their cup final.

As I said in another thread, they launched that many balls into the air for Lukaku, they should be renamed the school of fucking rocket science.

We were the only team that tried to win, battered them for most of the game and coped easily with their shithouse tactics.

Yet again, the first sign of a dropped point and the usual fucking nobheads are starting slating our own, throwing the towel in and telling everyone that the sky is falling in.

Doom mongers of the world can just fuck off tonight. I'm not in the mood for it and I could do without the ban, so I'm getting off.

All of the shite spouted about Martinez and his love for playing football 'the proper way' is a load of fucking goat bollocks. It's not necessarily wrong but it's a fallacy. I've watched Everton a fair bit during his reign and he loves a long ball up to the front man.

[Jake]

Eleventy thumb point nuffin ate snacks. Now you can go to bed..........

I need to mate I fricking hate dropping a point against anyone, never mind the blue shite, turns me into a right pessimist till the morn.

[waterfordred1]

I'm not saying they aren't a good side. We are better though.

em...look at the table, so far we are not.

[Kopenhagen]

It was very disheartening to see Gerrard struggle like that and honestly Rodgers hasn't helped him there. If Coutinho was injured (has that been confirmed?), Gerrard should gave been hooked for Markovic. The game was just crying out for some energy, some real impactful change, but sentiment stopped us from really giving it a go. Very sad to see and I have to say I was really pissed off after the game was over - probably more than any game this season.

[Pradan]

Can't believe Coutinho went off considering the form he has been. A part of me is hoping it was an injury (not too serious of course) so as to explain that shocking decision.

If he was fine then Rodgers was being far too sentimental with Gerrard.

[CHOPPER]

I need to mate I fricking hate dropping a point against anyone, never mind the blue shite, turns me into a right pessimist till the morn.

Don't worry fella, the only stat we all need to know is - is that they are poor and we are moving onwards and upwards, despite being held to a draw by their bland football. And bland is most definitely what it is.

[Pradan]

It was very disheartening to see Gerrard struggle like that

Tonight i think revealed how it was the right decision for him to move on.

[SerbianScouser]

I think we find a way to win this game if McCarthy doesn`t recover in time to participate.

They know they`ll lose to Chelsea in few days so were extra determined to grind out a famous draw today. 3 combative ball winning midfielders and no creativity within whatsoever ; all they focused on was stopping our players between the lines. We don`t seem to be able to get the job done in big games and Merseyside derby this year. Hopefully against Spurs we finally break that trend.

[adamski29]

I'm a Rodgers fan but he deserves criticism for that game management Gerrard was anonymous should have been of not Coutinho. And the cup game midweek was the time to rest players not today. But of course we have to get to cup final for Gerrard and he has to stay on in the Derby.

Never thought I'd say this but we are currently carrying stevie too our detriment.

[CHOPPER]

Tonight i think revealed how it was the right decision for him to move on.

Well go you, for your such resounding faith in where we stand right now as a squad and team. I suspect abortion is but a mere game changer for the social services, in your eyes.

[Kopenhagen]

I'm a Rodgers fan but he deserves criticism for that game management Gerrard was anonymous should have been of not Coutinho. And the cup game midweek was the time to rest players not today. But of course we have to get to cup final for Gerrard and he has to stay on in the Derby.

Never thought I'd say this but we are currently carrying stevie too our detriment.

I read on here Coutinho was injured but can someone confirm it? If he wasn't injured I'm just floored a Rodgers made that decision, in a game that was there to be won, no less.

Take off Coutinho and bring on his best partner (Sturridge) to replace him? Bizarre.

[Pistolero]

It was a Goodison derby you crying twats.....a banker draw and that's what happened ...now gather your toys together and get to fuckin bed

[EstonianRed]

I read on here Coutinho was injured but can someone confirm it? If he wasn't injured I'm just floored a Rodgers made that decision, in a game that was there to be won, no less.

Take off Coutinho and bring on his best partner (Sturridge) to replace him? Bizarre.

I dont blame him to taking off Coutinho, even if he was injured, cause Coutinho has been playing in all of these mostly 90 minutes if Im not wrong:

Thu - 1   Barclays Premier League   Leicester   H   2   2             
Mon - 5   FA Cup   AFC Wimbledon   A   1   2   
Sat - 10   Barclays Premier League   Sunderland   A   0   1   
Sat - 17   Barclays Premier League   Aston Villa   A   0   2             
Tue - 20   Capital One Cup   Chelsea   H   1   1   
Sat - 24   FA Cup   Bolton   H   0   0   
Tue - 27   Capital One Cup   Chelsea   A   1   0   
Sat - 31   Barclays Premier League   West Ham   H   2   0
Wed - 4   FA Cup   Bolton   A   1   2   
Sat - 7   Barclays Premier League   Everton   A   0   0

got subbed off against West Ham I think around 80 minute mark? + 120 against Chelsea. And it will go on for us those 2  in a week games

[Studgotelli]

Nugget of optimism.

Last season, first game of Feb I believe we drew 1-1 away to West Brom. We then started our run of 10 wins til the end of April.

Here's hoping we do it again this season.