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Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« on: September 23, 2012, 08:59:11 pm »
West Brom v Liverpool


Wednesday 26th September




Well, after an emotionally charged game on Sunday against Man United for numerous obvious reasons, the attention of Liverpool turns to Wednesday night as Liverpool travel to the Hawthorns for the second time this season to face West Bromich Ablion. This is Liverpool's first game in the competition that they won last year. It looks likely that Rodgers will select a youthful side for the game, similar to the side that defeated Young Boys on Thursday night. Liverpool will hope that they perform much better on this visit to West Brom, having lost 3-0 in the Premier League on their first game of the league season.


Ahead of the game I visited WestBrom.com to get the view of the Baggies' fans ahead of the fixture:



Q1. First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. Your club is now managed by our former assistant manager Steve Clarke. There is often a worry when 'number twos' become the main man at a club, there have been many men who have tried it and not many have succeeded. How did you greet the news of Clarke's appointment and has your opinion of him changed since then?

Floydy: Initially I was disappointed given some of the other names we were linked with. However Clarke has since started to demonstrate he is a safe pair of hands who has continued Hodgson's good work by keeping a strong defensive approach but with much quicker break play.

Tipton Baggie 80:  I didn't really know much about Steve Clarke, and as you say, the transition from assistant to manager can be a tough one. However, the way we are set up as a club, with a sporting and technical director and a head coach (as opposed to manager) meant that as long as Steve was an excellent coach, there was a good chance of success. In addition the previous 2 or 3 appointments we have made as a club have been astute ones, so the chairman and sporting and technical director in my experience deserved the benefit of the doubt. So far, so good.

Rubyruby: Felt it was a good appointment at the time purely because of the clubs and players he has worked with as a coach and the length of time he has been in the PL. He has surprised me with his ability in front of the press. The only question mark will be how he deals with things when it goes a bit off track. That hasn't happened yet thankfully!

Huntington Baggie:  At first disappointment, not because of him but because the appointment was anticlimactic compared to the likes of Ranieri and Rangnick. But that lasted about a day then when you go back to it you can see exactly why the decision was made. Remember we wanted a coach, not a manager.

CrazedWBAfan18: Well, at first, I was a little underwhelmed by his lack of frontal roles, as we had been linked with the likes of Ranieri and Rangnick quite heavily; so to get a 'second in command' man didnt greatly fill me with confidence; and the pundits were quick to tip us for relegation afterwards. My opinion has changed of him following the first five games; he is level headed, doesnt hesitate to change things around unlike hodgson and the home results so far have been very good.

2. This Captial One Cup game looks to be an oppertunity for Liverpool to play their younger players. Do you see West Brom doing the same and if so is there any youngsters we should keep an eye out for?

Floydy: Clarke has said that he is taking the cups seriously so I doubt we'll see a team full of youngsters. However George Thorne, Scott Allan, El Ghanassy, James Hurst & Saido Berahino are the best of the group of youngsters who are on the fringes of the first team.

Tipton Baggie 80: I think we'll play a strong team. Steve Clarke has said that he will treat the cup competitions seriously this year, as this is a chance for a club like ourselves to have success. That said, I doubt it will be our first choice 11. You might see Yassine El Ghannassy on the wing, possibly a Craig Dawson in defence, with maybe George Thorne and Saido Berinho on the bench (the last two of which are true products of our academy). All good prospects.

Rubyruby: Think SC wants WBA to push for all the competitions so I expect a strongish side. If he plays him Yassine El Gnassey has great pace and trickery with the ball at his feet.

Huntington Baggie: There shouldn't be many but we have a choice of Saido Berahino, George Thorne, James Hurst and Scott Allan on the peripharies, with Yassine El Ghanassy possibly added to gain PL- like experience being the most likely and the one i want to see.

CrazedWBAfan18: Considering we have our big derby game against Villa next sunday I think at least a few changes will be made. I can see El Ghanassy starting on the wings, who has a lot to prove, otherwise a fair few of our first team regulars couldnt really be called youngsters anymore! I suppose Yacob could start also; an anchor in our defensive midfield.

Q3. You've already played and beaten us this season, what did you make of the performance of both sides in that game?


Floydy: I thought we played well. First half was pretty even but the game opened up after Gera's goal. I thought your "big names" didn't influence the game enough. Suarez looked dangerous but his finishing let him down. I thought the best team on the day won.

Tipton Baggie 80: I thought we were fluid, strong and deserved the 3 points. As ever the point was laboured that Liverpool didn't play well, but little credit was given to us performing. Experience has taught us that if you're not from the north west or London you get little media credit / attention.

Rubyruby: Think LFC have a lot to do to get back to where they believe they should be. I thought they played good football as they always do but at the moment I dont see a lot of goal threat. That to me is Rogers biggest issue. WBA have been building from a much smaller expectation for the past 4/5 seasons and our continental football set up has paid handsome dividends bringing in quality players for little or no money. Claudio Jacob this season a free transfer who has improved us again. On the day we just carried a greater goal threat.

Huntington Baggie: Started very even in the First Half then Gera turned up with his goal and bar a ten minute period at the start of the 2nd half 'Pool just fell apart and the expensive,experienced players I.E. Gerrard weren't really doing anything.

CrazedWBAfan18: We rode our luck a bit at times. Decisions favoured us with two penalties and a red card that could be argued were a little soft, but then again your chances werent taken, and you were punished for it.

Q4. The season is still in its early stages, but which of your players have stood out in terms of positive performances? Also, have any of them concerned you?

Floydy: No real worries at the moment. Reid got injured and Billy Jones has deputised at RB for the last two games and has probably been our week link in these games. I was disappointed with Odemwingie due to his petulant sending off at Fulham as he is always likely to crop up with a goal. Olsson and MacAuley have had good seasons so far. New signings Lukaku and Yacob have immediately made a positive impact. Although I'm not Long's biggest fan, he has worked hard and looked bright during our opening games.

Tipton Baggie 80: Romelu Lukaku on loan from Chelsea has bags of potential (as the player bought to replace Didier Drogba you would expect that). In addition Claudio Yacob (a new signing) has been a revelation in the defensive midfielder role. Jonas Olsson has been as strong as ever in defence, but for me the stand out player has been James Morrison, who is just consistently good. We have a good side / squad now and are more than up to premiership standards.

Rubyruby: Hard to be negative about any of our players after our best ever PL start. But on the upside defensively we look immense at the moment so I would have to pick out the four guys who protect the middle of the pitch as the bedrock of our team. Ollson McCauley Mulumbu and Jacob.

Huntington Baggie: It's a team game, overall the team either plays well (Everton, Tottenham) or bad (Fulham) but Long, Morrison, Lukaku and the back pairing of McAuley and Olsson have been steadfast as always. The only concern is 2nd Left back Billy Jones but if that's the only bad point we aren't doing bad.

CrazedWBAfan18: Brunt has looked a little disappointing again to be honest; off the boil with his deliveries and passing. Our injuries with Reid are concerning, as Billy Jones isn't our strongest defender and is still adjusting to the premier league. However, Morrison once again looks a very bright prospect, can produce some vicious shots and general good play.

Q5. You made a few additions in the summer, were you happy with them at the time? Has your opinion differed since then?

Floydy: I think our summer signings have been very shrewd. Foster for £3.5m, Yacob on a free and Lukaku on loan were great signings. All have positively impacted the team. We have yet to really see what Popov, El Ghanassy and Rosenberg have bought to the squad due to limited opportunities so far.

Tipton Baggie 80: Apart from Yassine El Ghannassy (who hasn't really featured), Romelu Lukaku on loan, and Claudio Yacob (all of which I have mentioned), the star signing for us in my opinion was Ben Foster on a permanent contract. A top quality goalkeeper earns you so many points throughout a season, and that is exactly what Ben is. He'd be England's back up for Joe Hart if he hadn't declared he was withdrawing from international football.

Rubyruby: No very happy with all our additions although we have yet to see Rosenberg a senior international and El Gnassey a young player who looks to have PL potential.

Huntington Baggie: Simple answer, yes I'm happy and noIi have not changed my opinion.

CrazedWBAfan18: Yeah, Dan Ashworth invested very shrewdly by getting Lukaku on loan especially. He's a very exciting prospect, and I feel El Ghanassy has a lot to prove.

Q6. With all due respect, I see West Brom as a 'middle of the road' kind of side. In that respect it can be difficult for opposition fans to know what Baggies fans would class as a successful season, would you care to explain what you would class as success this year?

Floydy: At the beginning of the season, I'd have said not getting relegated. Having seen our start, i think with the squad we have we have enough for another mid table finish and a decent a cup run.

Tipton Baggie 80: Success for us would be consolidation / improvement on the last two seasons (where we finished 11th and 10th) and a successful cup run in one of the competitions (so here's hoping we beat you Wednesday!). Would be nice to get a bit of recognition but I won't hold my breath.

Rubyruby: Survival in a word. After seasons of Boing Boinging its really good to see us starting to look at home in the PL but you cant get complacent when your wage bill is the second smallest in the division. I think most Baggie fans think that this squad has the talent to be mid table and take a run at the cups though.

Huntington Baggie: With all due respect I think your in the same boat and Spurs have taken your place. I'll be happy with mid table with an aim at over 50 points.

CrazedWBAfan18: A good cup run, and top 10 finish would do me very well.

Q7. Although you've had a very good start, I can't see West Brom winning the league! Having said that, do the cups become more important to your club? I ask because I often see some managers rest players in the cup, even though they offer the only realistic chance of silverware.

Floydy: I think the cups will become increasingly important as we cement our status as a PL club. As you note this will be our best chance of silverware. Clarke has stated he will take the cups seriously. Although I don't expect the same 11 to start against Liverpool as started Saturday's game against Reading, I do think we'll put out a strong 11.

Tipton Baggie 80: With all due respect, I can't see Liverpool winning the league either! The difference between our clubs however, appears to me to be that of expectation - in so much that we are fairly realistic in ours. So whilst a cup run for us would be a bonus on the main aim of finishing in the middle of the league table, for you is more of a necessity to appease fans if you finish (as I suspect you will) also in the middle of the league table.

Rubyruby: I think the cups are very important to SC. He is a winner with both Chelsea and LFC so he has that mentality. They still have to come second to PL survival though......its the cash isnt it!

Huntington Baggie: Clarke has said he wants a go at the cups so I'd think he'd play a team strong enough to at least compete with the team in front of him.

CrazedWBAfan18: I like to think so, a lot of teams these days outside the top 5/6, silverware and a European push is the best we can hope for.

Q8. Care to predict the score?

Floydy: 2-1 To the Albion as I feel we'll put out a strongish 11 where Liverpool will play some squad players. Morale at the Albion is high after a good start to the season.

Tipton Baggie 80: 2-1 West Brom (ever the optimist)

Rubyruby: I think this will be tight but I expect goals. A 2-2 wouldnt surprise me with penos to decide it.

Huntington Baggie: 2-1 To Albion (of course) but may be a draw and a replay at anfield after a score draw (i'll go 1-1) Edit by StevenLFC: A draw means pens not a replay!

CrazedWBAfan18: 1-1 up to full time, we nick a winner in extra time.

Q9. What about your predictions for both clubs for the rest of the season?

Floydy: Liverpool; Finish between 6th and 9th with at least one decent cup run, possibly winning one again.... Rodgers to be sacked and then come to Albion and make a success of himself again. Boing Boing   
Tipton Baggie 80: I'm going to say 9th in the league for us, with a quarter final in one of the cups. I'll say 8th in the league for youresleves, not sure how you'll fare in cup competitions.

Rubyruby: I expect both clubs to finish mid table but over the course of the full season I would expect LFC to overtake us and finish 2 or 3 places above us. I think its entirely possible for either club to go a long way in a cup. LFC proved that last year!

Huntington Baggie: Both in around the 8/9/10/11 place mark, and you sack Rodgers and buy Clarke for ridiculous money, we get Rodgers for free and make a tidy profit and the cycle continues!

CrazedWBAfan18: Steady Eddy for both, think you'll be top 10; 8th or 9th, but no better.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 06:50:41 am by StevenLFC »

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 09:09:24 am »
Thanks for that Steven
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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 01:08:01 pm »
Good Spyin' Kop, thanks.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 01:19:09 pm »
Enjoyed it, thanks for making it.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 01:45:38 pm »
Thanks for that mate. I'm hoping Scott Allen does get a game so I can compare and contrast with our own prodigies. (He used to be at Dundee United and was a little shite, albeit a massively talented little shite.) Gonna be tricky this one.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 07:45:07 pm »
Enjoyed that thanks!.  I expect us to put out the b-team for this one and if they put out a full team we'll struggle a bit.  I'm hoping Yesil gets a run. It would be interesting to get a good look at him.
 We can put out a strong midfield of Hendo, Sahin and Suso, with Assadi  and downing as wide men. Will be very interesting to see who plays as striker. Pacheco? Morgan? Yesil?. We really can't afford to risk Suarez or Gerrard who are now our only proven premiership goal scorers.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 09:10:40 pm »
Great read. Thanks.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 09:20:18 pm »
Great read. Looking forward to this, can't beat a good old midweek away day.
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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 10:21:07 pm »
I've had a few more replies on the forum so I'll post the replies here:


29albion:


1. First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. Your club is now managed by our former assistant manager Steve Clarke. There is often a worry when 'number twos' become the main man at a club, there have been many men who have tried it and not many have succeeded. How did you greet the news of Clarke's appointment and has your opinion of him changed since then?

Wasn't really convinced at the start as we had been going for bigger names but so far he's done a grand job.

2. This Captial One Cup game looks to be an oppertunity for Liverpool to play their younger players. Do you see West Brom doing the same and if so is there any youngsters we should keep an eye out for?

I think we'l put out a mixed bag we have some youngsters knocking on the door in Thorne, El Ganassay and Dawson. Some of the lads who normally sit on the bench like Dorrans will probably get a game. I think we will put out a stronger team than you do

3. You've already played and beaten us this season, what did you make of the performance of both sides in that game?

Obviously the sending off changed the game but I thought it was a competitive up until the sending off, had you stayed at 11 I could have seen the game been a draw.

4. The season is still in its early stages, but which of your players have stood out in terms of positive performances? Also, have any of them concerned you?

I'd say James Morrison has been our standout performer so far. Claudio Yacob looks like a real steal too.

5. You made a few additions in the summer, were you happy with them at the time? Has your opinion differed since then?

Happy with the summer transfers we hardly spent any money and managed to add quality additions to the squad.

6. With all due respect, I see West Brom as a 'middle of the road' kind of side. In that respect it can be difficult for opposition fans to know what Baggies fans would class as a successful season, would you care to explain what you would class as success this year?

A successful season for us would be finishing around or a little higher than we managed last year. Obviously a extremely successful season would be getting into Europe after the start we made who knows but I think that would be beyond the most optimistic albion fans dreams 

7. Although you've had a very good start, I can't see West Brom winning the league! Having said that, do the cups become more important to your club? I ask because I often see some managers rest players in the cup, even though they offer the only realistic chance of silver wear.

I think cups are an important piece with our History in the cup competitions but obviously as you found out last season looks to be the easiest way into Europe

8. Care to predict the score?

2-1 albion I think we'l put out a stronger team than you will

9. What about your predictions for both clubs for the rest of the season?

I think we will both be sitting mid table come seasons end




Baggiejules:


1. First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. Your club is now managed by our former assistant manager Steve Clarke. There is often a worry when 'number twos' become the main man at a club, there have been many men who have tried it and not many have succeeded. How did you greet the news of Clarke's appointment and has your opinion of him changed since then?

Like a few others I had been quite firmly sold on the idea of Ralf Rangnick who had been very heavily linked and was a proven success in the Bundesliga. Clarke was a bit of a surprise appointment but he has vast experience at the highest level and has had glowing reference by almost every one he has worked for. If someone like Mourinho says that he is capable of managing a club like Chelsea then you take that on board. As it turns out the early signs have exceeded all expectations and it giving him his chance in management has looked to be a stroke of genius by Peace and Ashworth. One of the first big tests was seeing how we would react to our first defeat against Fulham last week and we did that with a very efficient if unspectacular performance against Reading. The next week is going to be big as well with yourselves in the cup on Wednesday then a derby against our nearest and dearest from the wrong side of the Birmingham/Black Country divide. Early signs are very very promising indeed.

2. This Captial One Cup game looks to be an oppertunity for Liverpool to play their younger players. Do you see West Brom doing the same and if so is there any youngsters we should keep an eye out for?

All the noises Clarke has made about the cup so far has been that he wants to take the cups seriously but with a derby game coming up I expect to see some rotation. Yassine El Ghanassy is a promising young winger with pace and skill in abundance and perhaps looking to become a part of Belgium's 'Golden Generation'. Craig Dawson is a centre back with bags of potential and represented Great Britain in the Olympics. I expect both of these players to feature.

3. You've already played and beaten us this season, what did you make of the performance of both sides in that game?

From us it was fantastic and we were on cloud nine. It wasn't that long ago we played you on the second last day of the season which ended with us being relegated and yourselves only just coming up short in the title race. If you had told me that day we would be beating you so convincingly just a couple of years down the line I would be calling NHS Direct to try and get you sectioned! It was a testament to how far we have come lately and also how far you have fallen I'm afraid. Judging by what else I have seen of Liverpool so far it seems as if your troubles from last season seem to be continuing in that the performances are there but you lack someone who stick the ball in the onion bag. Not bringing in a replacement for Carroll could be season defining for the wrong reasons and I would expect there will be alot of pressure on FSG to deliver in January.

4. The season is still in its early stages, but which of your players have stood out in terms of positive performances? Also, have any of them concerned you?

Lukaku has been the obvious candidate. He has looked an absolute handful and defenders are really struggling to keep up with him. From the moment he left Carragher for dead on his debut he became an instant fans favourite. Otherwise Claudio Yacob has been brilliant in the middle and has had a similar effect to Joe Allen for you guys in that he has been brilliant at keeping possession but in addition he has also adapted very well to the physical side of the Premier League. A very consistent performer. James Morrison has also looked fantastic. Only slight concern is perhaps the poor performance of our full backs against Fulham who afforded their wingers far too much space and it hurt us. Also Odemwingie's moment of madness might see him out the team for a while if we continue to perform without him.

5. You made a few additions in the summer, were you happy with them at the time? Has your opinion differed since then?

Delighted all round really. We have a platitude of striking options and the loan signings of Lukaku was a coup and sort of came out of nowhere really. Ashworth has done a fantastic job again this summer and he will certainly be missed when he leaves us for his FA role.

6. With all due respect, I see West Brom as a 'middle of the road' kind of side. In that respect it can be difficult for opposition fans to know what Baggies fans would class as a successful season, would you care to explain what you would class as success this year?

After years of being considered as a yo-yo side I am delighted that people are starting to see us as a 'middle of the road' side! I would certainly accept mid table again but I think given our fantastic start to the season and only being 5 games in it is very difficult to gauge expectation. I imagine we will re assess once the table starts to take shape.

7. Although you've had a very good start, I can't see West Brom winning the league! Having said that, do the cups become more important to your club? I ask because I often see some managers rest players in the cup, even though they offer the only realistic chance of silver wear.

I would say yes. If you look at the teams who have won it in recent years (Birmingham City, Middlesbrough, Blackburn etc) the cups are certainly our only realistic shot of silverware. We reached the semi final of the FA Cup not long ago with a team that has far less in quality than the one we have now.

8. Care to predict the score?

We are on the crest of a wave at the moment so have a feeling we will sneak a 2-1 win

9. What about your predictions for both clubs for the rest of the season?

I imagine probably another mid table finish for ourselves and maybe a Europa League spot for Liverpool but I feel that something needs to be done about your striker situation.



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1. First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. Your club is now managed by our former assistant manager Steve Clarke. There is often a worry when 'number twos' become the main man at a club, there have been many men who have tried it and not many have succeeded. How did you greet the news of Clarke's appointment and has your opinion of him changed since then?

The overall feeling when he was announced was underwhelming but the results have spoken for themselves and I like what i hear from him every time I've heard an interview.

2. This Captial One Cup game looks to be an oppertunity for Liverpool to play their younger players. Do you see West Brom doing the same and if so is there any youngsters we should keep an eye out for?

I think we will play with mainly squad players and the odd first eleven player thrown in. Dawson is a promising young centre half though, he may feature.

3. You've already played and beaten us this season, what did you make of the performance of both sides in that game?

Could have been a completely different outcome had Suarez had his shooting boots on that day, but our second half performance warranted the 3 points I think.

4. The season is still in its early stages, but which of your players have stood out in terms of positive performances? Also, have any of them concerned you?

Our new midfielder Yacob looks very comfortable in front of the defence. Steven Reid getting injured has meant we've had to play Billy Jones at right0back. He looks good going forward but his defending is suspect at times, bit like Glen Johnson!

5. You made a few additions in the summer, were you happy with them at the time? Has your opinion differed since then?

I was very happy with them. Foster is a quality keeper, Yacob has been a great signing in midfield and Lukaku looks a real threat up front. Haven't seen any/enough of Rosenberg, Povov and El Ghanassy to give a verdict yet.

6. With all due respect, I see West Brom as a 'middle of the road' kind of side. In that respect it can be difficult for opposition fans to know what Baggies fans would class as a successful season, would you care to explain what you would class as success this year?

I think top half and hitting the 50 point mark would be a very good season, with maybe a cup run thrown in. Some tipped us to go down once we lost Hodgson, but there are quite a few worse teams in this league than us.

7. Although you've had a very good start, I can't see West Brom winning the league! Having said that, do the cups become more important to your club? I ask because I often see some managers rest players in the cup, even though they offer the only realistic chance of silver wear.

Staying in the league far outweighs winning a cup, but it would be nice to experience a cup win and a little European tour one day. Been a very long time since this club has won a major trophy!

8. Care to predict the score?

Think we will scrape it 2-1.

9. What about your predictions for both clubs for the rest of the season?

Think we will finish solid mid-table again, you will be about 7th.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 10:14:46 am »
Some good responses there. Great how you tell fans of a team like West Brom that they're not going to be title contenders and they respond with "Well, neither are you". Nice one.

Also, the lad who said we have unrealistic expectations for this season should take a look through the boards or speak to some actual Liverpool fans instead of believing the media who state that Liverpool "should be a team challenging at the top". I think it's safe to say that most fans have dampened their expectations and are happy to watch a team in transition.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 07:14:18 pm »
I agree Adam, but if you look at Twitter etc. you'll see plenty of idiot Liverpool fans who demand more, send abuse tweets to officials etc. Unfortunately, these idiots are the only LFC supporters that some opposition fans see the opinions of.

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Re: Spyin' Kop - West Brom v Liverpool - 26/9/12 - Capital One Cup
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 08:55:59 pm »
Enjoyed that, thanks! Think they seemed like a good lot.
Just told the Mrs I'm retiring my cock at the end of the year. I'm hoping she uses it week in week out to give the old fella a decent send off. Then I'll change my retirement plans in the last week of December.