Topic: The iPhone

[JimmyGrunt]

Because the excess you have to pay and the hoops you have to go through to get paid really isn't worth it,

Can you shed some more light on this please?

My contract is up next month at some point, and ive paid for insureance since day dot.

[iSmiff]

I meant the SMS is shit. its a massive oversight when you think about it.

not at all, it'll be a MAJOR SYSTEM UPDATE in OS4.0

[timiano]

not at all, it'll be a MAJOR SYSTEM UPDATE in OS4.0

Thank fuck for that!

[gazzalfc]

Can you shed some more light on this please?

My contract is up next month at some point, and ive paid for insureance since day dot.

Have a look at this

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/insurance/cheap-mobile-phone-insurance

Basically mobile phone insurance isn't like looking for car insurance. It doesn't look at who you are, where you live or how old you are. You pay them a fixed amount and your covered. The only problem for you is that phones can only be insured in the first 6 months after purchace.

But this means that its easy to get insured its a pain in the arse to make a claim. Companies can give cheap coverage but has a high excess to claim (£100+) even if your phone is slightly damaged it will still cost you £100 to put a claim in. Stolen phones can only be claimed for if you obtain a valid police crime reference number within 24 hours of the theft and even then most policies only cover phones taken from you by force.

Also if you check the fine print most of the protection you think you have isn't covered for iphones. Accidental loss or damage is covered for every other phone except the iphone.

The best advice they give is to check your current home contents insurance to see if your phone is covered in that instead.

[JimmyGrunt]

Have a look at this

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/insurance/cheap-mobile-phone-insurance

Basically mobile phone insurance isn't like looking for car insurance. It doesn't look at who you are, where you live or how old you are. You pay them a fixed amount and your covered. The only problem for you is that phones can only be insured in the first 6 months after purchace.

But this means that its easy to get insured its a pain in the arse to make a claim. Companies can give cheap coverage but has a high excess to claim (£100+) even if your phone is slightly damaged it will still cost you £100 to put a claim in. Stolen phones can only be claimed for if you obtain a valid police crime reference number within 24 hours of the theft and even then most policies only cover phones taken from you by force.

Also if you check the fine print most of the protection you think you have isn't covered for iphones. Accidental loss or damage is covered for every other phone except the iphone.

The best advice they give is to check your current home contents insurance to see if your phone is covered in that instead.

O2 are liars then. Pretty sure they told me that i would have to pay about £60 for a new handset if anything was to happen.

Cheers for the info, as i might consider jibbing the extra £7 per month on the next iphone.

[Something Else]

The best thing to do is get it on your contents, if you get it right it is far cheaper and far easier should anything happen

the mobile phone insurance is a scam and like most insurance, very difficult to get any benefit from

[iSmiff]

the only insurance i have is car insurance and that's only because i have to by law

[Zizou]

Conformist.

[gazzalfc]

O2 are liars then. Pretty sure they told me that i would have to pay about £60 for a new handset if anything was to happen.

Cheers for the info, as i might consider jibbing the extra £7 per month on the next iphone.

Well maybe it is. But your paying £7 a month. Some companies offer it for £4-5 a month but you pay extra for the excess.

If you want to go down that road make sure you look at the fine printand find out what your coverage is.

the mobile phone insurance is a scam and like most insurance, very difficult to get any benefit from

It is a scam but only because of the system. Its not like motor insurance where drivers who have points on your licence and driving a sports car then you pay more than a clean driver driving a hybrid.

A guy who loses his phone every month pays exactly the same as someone who would never lose his phone. Insurance companies wont want to pay out on £400 iphones so they need to put up hoops before anyone pays out

[markay_stinkay]

Errrm

Having passed said iPhone to excited missus, she already thinks it's wank. Well what's the first thing you want to do when you get a new number? Text all your mates I've changed my number. Can it do it? Can it fuck. Admittedly I never use SMS, I think it's for people that would agree to pay for air if they were told to, so I've never come across the problem of being able to send a bulk SMS.

I see I can jailbreak the phone and install iSMS. But just for sending a bunch of texts to a load of mongs? No thanks. What gives? Anyone got any better ideas?

However, she's pleased as punch with over-the-air push mail/calendar/contacts into Google Apps with her own domain. But group SMS!? I mean WTF. How can you get so much simple shit right and then fuck that up?

Rant over, apologies.

Can't have your own message tone aswell unless you jailbreak.

[Something Else]

Well maybe it is. But your paying £7 a month. Some companies offer it for £4-5 a month but you pay extra for the excess.

If you want to go down that road make sure you look at the fine printand find out what your coverage is.

It is a scam but only because of the system. Its not like motor insurance where drivers who have points on your licence and driving a sports car then you pay more than a clean driver driving a hybrid.

A guy who loses his phone every month pays exactly the same as someone who would never lose his phone. Insurance companies wont want to pay out on £400 iphones so they need to put up hoops before anyone pays out

To compare it with motor insurance is like a red rag to a bull with me.

How something can be made essential yet be so messed up and without a government body authorising and monitoring it is beyond me.

At the end of the day, what you need to remember is whatever city you go to, look at the nice buildings, and they are either banks or insurance companies. They make a ridiculous amount of money and make it very difficult to claim what you are supposed to be able to.

[timiano]

Can't have your own message tone aswell unless you jailbreak.

She's not bothered about messaging/e-mail tones, only ring tones which are fine. Plus she can make them in her iTunes on her PC. One thing about the iPhone is that it doesn't allow you to do some ridiculously simple stuff. But they know best

[Something Else]

She's not bothered about messaging/e-mail tones, only ring tones which are fine. Plus she can make them in her iTunes on her PC. One thing about the iPhone is that it doesn't allow you to do some ridiculously simple stuff. But they know best

Iringer is brilliant, just type it into a search engine, download it and then you can create your own from whatever you can find

[markay_stinkay]

She's not bothered about messaging/e-mail tones, only ring tones which are fine. Plus she can make them in her iTunes on her PC. One thing about the iPhone is that it doesn't allow you to do some ridiculously simple stuff. But they know best

That's what I was getting at. Another ridiculously simple thing such as have your own message tone you can't do, but you can have your own ring tone. Why only offer half the functionality as opposed to all of it or none at all? Now where's my 3210 gone...

[iSmiff]

because that will come in OS4.0

apple like to drip feed stuff and then slap themselves on the back for giving it to the customers when it should have all been in the iPhone from the 2g launch

[wacko]

Mine has been ok so far. Luckily at work I can download blackra1n and so between my computer at home and my computer at work I can be pretty much safe when it comes to keeping my phone jailbroken. Just need to keep it charged and switched on.

Fair enough, but I need to take the phone with me on cycling holidays. There's no way on Earth I'm shlepping a notebook with me as an iPhone accessory, just in case.

And I do mean need. Last year, I spent a lot of money on solar panels and chargers for my iPhone, because I was not going to go without my iPhone for 2 weeks, and in the end it proved extremely useful for a cycling holiday.

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

Mine has started hanging up when I try and sync to iTunes on my PC

Sits there suncing for ages then comes up with some form of timeout message "phone cannot be synced, unable to write to phone memory" any tips?

[Something Else]

Mine has started hanging up when I try and sync to iTunes on my PC

Sits there suncing for ages then comes up with some form of timeout message "phone cannot be synced, unable to write to phone memory" any tips?

what about that software reset.... holding both buttons? does that help?

IF not might have to be a restore

[SalisburyRed]

What insurance have people got on there iphones?

I've got the O2 insurance at £7.50 a month - their premium insurance I think it's called. Never needed to use it, and I'm probably wasting my money. I got it because I paid £390 for the phone, which was one of the most expensive things I'd ever bought myself, so insurance seemed like the sensible option at the time. I may review this soon.

[gazzalfc]

I've got the O2 insurance at £7.50 a month - their premium insurance I think it's called. Never needed to use it, and I'm probably wasting my money. I got it because I paid £390 for the phone, which was one of the most expensive things I'd ever bought myself, so insurance seemed like the sensible option at the time. I may review this soon.

Well it might not be if you were yo make a claim on it.

[TheKid.]

My iTunes seems fucked.
It's fine when my phone's not plugged in, but when I plug in my phone it stops responding!

Anyone had this before/got any ideas?

Ta

[Something Else]

My iTunes seems fucked.
It's fine when my phone's not plugged in, but when I plug in my phone it stops responding!

Anyone had this before/got any ideas?

Ta

Yep I have had it the odd time, thought it was just because my computer was the one the bible was originally written on and is slow as fuck.

I just disconnected the ipod, closed itunes and retried it, seemed to work ok after that, but still happens the odd time.

[TheKid.]

Yep I have had it the odd time, thought it was just because my computer was the one the bible was originally written on and is slow as fuck.

I just disconnected the ipod, closed itunes and retried it, seemed to work ok after that, but still happens the odd time.

Done that a load, even turned off my computer and my iPhone!
Just gonna update it to the latest version and see if that helps.

Ta

[Something Else]

Done that a load, even turned off my computer and my iPhone!
Just gonna update it to the latest version and see if that helps.

Ta

ah, well i always have the latest version, so I dont know if that helps or hinders mate

[TheKid.]

Well getting the updated version of iTunes did fuck all, still got the exact same problem

[LiamG]

I was only thinking of getting insurance because i tend to break or even lose phones when drunk lol

[esselle]

Well getting the updated version of iTunes did fuck all, still got the exact same problem

i had a similar problem but sorted it with new itunes but whilst trawling google for answers I found a forum thread where people were saying the problem could be cured by deleting any podcasts from your iphone and then try syncing again.....might be worth a try.

[TheKid.]

Cheers, will give it a go

[TheKid.]

i had a similar problem but sorted it with new itunes but whilst trawling google for answers I found a forum thread where people were saying the problem could be cured by deleting any podcasts from your iphone and then try syncing again.....might be worth a try.

Excellent, i deleted the last podcast I'd downloaded before the problem started and it seems to have sorted it out, nice one mate

[iSmiff]

no problem, glad to help

[TheKid.]

no problem, glad to help

[iSmiff]

apple have supposedly put in an order for millions of LED flashes for phones, the LUXEON version which is very good, nearly normal camera flash brightness

so looks like we know what one of the update will be this summer

[Something Else]

apple have supposedly put in an order for millions of LED flashes for phones, the LUXEON version which is very good, nearly normal camera flash brightness

so looks like we know what one of the update will be this summer

Yeah but will they let you use it

[Surprise me.]

there's a rumour going around that the new iphone will be running a qualcomm chip, just like a google phone.

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

I have o2's Insure with my iPhone - £7.49 a month I think.

I am on my sixth iPhone for various reasons, mainly because I'm a clumsy fucker. I knew this when I bought it, hence the insurance. I haven't had one problem with the service - phone up, make the claim, they send you out a new phone with a courier and you give them the damaged phone. Excess is only £25. For me, it's worth it as I am a shit for dropping things.

I think I've made three claims with them, and each time it hasn't been a problem. The second time I did it, was with the original iPhone. It was at the time the new 3G one came out. They couldn't give me an original handset so told me they'd send me out an upgrade. When that was processed, and the iPhone was on its way, I popped into my local o2 store with the broken handset and upgraded it in store for a 16GB new iPhone. So I kept the 16GB iPhone for myself, gave the broken one to the courier in exchange for a new 8GB 3G handset to replace the broken one under o2 Insure, and put the 8GB 3G on eBay. Think it sold for just over £300. That pretty much covered any insurance payments I've made to o2!

[iSmiff]

they'd never have an issue if they're taking our old phone off you

[royhendo]

Changed to Simplicity (£20pcm) in the O2 shop today. The guy said they thought the new one would be out about August, and I smiled to myself when he said "you could go online and read rumours about what's going to come out, but nobody really knows - last year we were guessing about what the 3Gs would be like, but all the rumours were wrong".

So Simplicity for the next few months...

[Lenstar]

What do you get for that £20 Roy? I take it you would still qualify for upgrades if you choose to upgrade to the new one when it comes out? Did u bother with o2 insurance?

[red annie]

Insurance

Applecare which lasts as long as the contract and contents insurance from the house insurance. If you don't have contents then the o2 is probably not a bad deal £135 for 18 months. Wouldn't bother if out of contract.

[cevans16]

If I activate the iPhone on iTunes on a different computer to my own, will I then be able to use it on my own computer with iTunes, is it simply activating the phone or does it 'stick' to that computer?