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It's all gone Chris Grayling
« on: March 1, 2019, 09:02:47 am »
He's being called out now for the rushed roll out of changes in the probation service.
Does he get anything right?  Is he in line for the Everton job at the end of the season?
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #1 on: March 1, 2019, 09:12:08 am »
He's being called out now for the rushed roll out of changes in the probation service.
Does he get anything right?  Is he in line for the Everton job at the end of the season?

People say that MP’s could easily earn more money in the private sector so we should respect that they have done a public service earning the ‘pittance’ that is 70 grand.

Then you see Chris Grayling and realise no, he would never earn 70 grand in the private sector.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #2 on: March 1, 2019, 09:13:37 am »
People say that MP’s could easily earn more money in the private sector so we should respect that they have done a public service earning the ‘pittance’ that is 70 grand.

Then you see Chris Grayling and realise no, he would never earn 70 grand in the private sector.

I follow Ken Clarke MP on Twitter he is constantly taking the piss out of this guy
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #3 on: March 1, 2019, 10:01:30 am »
Damn you for getting my hopes up - by including the words "Chris Grayling" and "gone" in the thread title  ;D

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #4 on: March 1, 2019, 11:09:01 am »
Fucked up every department he's been involved in, should have been sacked over that ferry contract farce, but he's a convenient scapegoat for the equality incompetent May, which is why he hasn't been sacked. :butt
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #5 on: March 1, 2019, 11:39:26 am »
You're going to find this hard to believe, but...

UK pays Eurotunnel 33 million pounds over 'secretive' no-deal Brexit ferry contracts

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain has paid out 33 million pounds to settle a claim with Eurotunnel which runs the Channel Tunnel between Britain and France after the firm took legal action over the process to award ferry contracts to cope with a no-deal Brexit.

Eurotunnel had begun court action after the Department for Transport contracted ferry companies in December to ensure supplies to the state-run National Health Service (NHS) and other critical imports should Britain leave the European Union on March 29 without a deal.
One of the companies awarded a contract was Seaborne Freight, a decision that provoked criticism as the company did not have any ships and the deal was subsequently terminated last month.

In a statement, the British government said it had reached agreement with Eurotunnel, whose holding company is Getlink, to settle the case and ensure the Channel Tunnel would continue to keep passengers and freight moving after Brexit.

“The agreement with Eurotunnel secures the government’s additional freight capacity, helping ensure that the NHS has essential medicines in the event of a no-deal Brexit,” British Transport Secretary Chris Grayling said.


“While it is disappointing that Eurotunnel chose to take legal action on contracts in place to ensure the smooth supply of vital medicines, I am pleased that this agreement will ensure the Channel Tunnel is ready for a post-Brexit world.”

In 2018, Eurotunnel carried 21 million passengers, 17 million trucks, 2.7 million cars and 26 percent of trade between Britain and the EU, and there are fears that a no deal Brexit could disrupt supplies and choke supply chains.

“Eurotunnel has concluded an out of court agreement ... that will ensure the Channel Tunnel remains the preferred route for vital goods to travel between the EU and the UK,” Eurotunnel said in a statement.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #6 on: March 1, 2019, 12:03:06 pm »
Never seen one positive word anywhere about this clown  ;D
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #7 on: March 1, 2019, 12:17:58 pm »
Fucked up every department he's been involved in, should have been sacked over that ferry contract farce, but he's a convenient scapegoat for the equality incompetent May, which is why he hasn't been sacked. :butt

He makes a great lightning rod.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #8 on: March 1, 2019, 12:18:48 pm »
Isn't he the wanker Dorries took the rap for when porn was found on his computer?

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #9 on: March 1, 2019, 12:23:12 pm »
Isn't he the wanker Dorries took the rap for when porn was found on his computer?

Not sure he has enough IT. skils to find porn
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #10 on: March 1, 2019, 01:20:45 pm »
He makes a great lightning rod.
yeah, if I was in that Tory cabinet he’d be one person I’d be fighting tooth and nail to keep in there as no matter how badly I might do he is always far worse

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #11 on: March 1, 2019, 01:22:46 pm »
He’s definitely escaped from the Thick of It. Seems almost a throwback at this time, seems just. Genuinely incompetent rather than some of the more extreme and dangerous politicians out there.

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« Reply #12 on: March 1, 2019, 02:40:59 pm »
He’s definitely escaped from the Thick of It. Seems almost a throwback at this time, seems just. Genuinely incompetent rather than some of the more extreme and dangerous politicians out there.

He's the Everton of Tory politicians.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #13 on: March 1, 2019, 02:42:27 pm »
Not sure he has enough IT. skils to find porn

Grayling wouldnt look for porn himself, thats too sensible. He would probably ask a civil servant or member of the public to download it for him.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #14 on: March 1, 2019, 03:01:39 pm »
Grayling wouldnt look for porn himself, thats too sensible. He would probably ask a civil servant or member of the public to download it for him.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #15 on: March 1, 2019, 03:24:14 pm »
From the list of failings we all know of that goes on and on like Mr Beans CV it is seriously now making me go insane as to how he is still in a job.

The only genuine and serious conclusion I can come to an without trying to be funny is that he has some compromising pictures or video of the whole cabinet tea-bagging or May, naked and coked off her tits threatening folk with a dildo, something or anything along those lines must exist as there is simply zero way a guy keeps his job after all of these catastrophes, impossible.

Does he have some kind of rich family I don't know about that have donated tens of millions to the tories? It is obviously something really important.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #16 on: March 1, 2019, 03:33:36 pm »
How the hell is this twat still in a job,send him back to the benches right at the back and as near to the door as possible.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #17 on: March 1, 2019, 04:31:02 pm »
Grayling wouldnt look for porn himself, thats too sensible. He would probably ask a civil servant or member of the public to download it for him.

And pay for it when you can get it for free.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #18 on: March 1, 2019, 04:33:31 pm »
I follow Ken Clarke MP on Twitter he is constantly taking the piss out of this guy
Not on it, is he?
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #19 on: March 1, 2019, 05:17:53 pm »
You're going to find this hard to believe, but...

UK pays Eurotunnel 33 million pounds over 'secretive' no-deal Brexit ferry contracts

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain has paid out 33 million pounds to settle a claim with Eurotunnel which runs the Channel Tunnel between Britain and France after the firm took legal action over the process to award ferry contracts to cope with a no-deal Brexit.

Eurotunnel had begun court action after the Department for Transport contracted ferry companies in December to ensure supplies to the state-run National Health Service (NHS) and other critical imports should Britain leave the European Union on March 29 without a deal.
One of the companies awarded a contract was Seaborne Freight, a decision that provoked criticism as the company did not have any ships and the deal was subsequently terminated last month.

In a statement, the British government said it had reached agreement with Eurotunnel, whose holding company is Getlink, to settle the case and ensure the Channel Tunnel would continue to keep passengers and freight moving after Brexit.

“The agreement with Eurotunnel secures the government’s additional freight capacity, helping ensure that the NHS has essential medicines in the event of a no-deal Brexit,” British Transport Secretary Chris Grayling said.


“While it is disappointing that Eurotunnel chose to take legal action on contracts in place to ensure the smooth supply of vital medicines, I am pleased that this agreement will ensure the Channel Tunnel is ready for a post-Brexit world.”

In 2018, Eurotunnel carried 21 million passengers, 17 million trucks, 2.7 million cars and 26 percent of trade between Britain and the EU, and there are fears that a no deal Brexit could disrupt supplies and choke supply chains.

“Eurotunnel has concluded an out of court agreement ... that will ensure the Channel Tunnel remains the preferred route for vital goods to travel between the EU and the UK,” Eurotunnel said in a statement.

Great that isn't it. £33 mio for not having been given the chance to bid for the contract, which might not even been needed. Easier money can't be had.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #20 on: March 1, 2019, 05:28:35 pm »
Not on it, is he?

It's a parody account, decent one too. I presume that's the one Geoff means.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #21 on: March 1, 2019, 05:50:00 pm »
Great that isn't it. £33 mio for not having been given the chance to bid for the contract, which might not even been needed. Easier money can't be had.

His department have just been quoted on the radio as saying “it’s a good deal”.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #22 on: March 1, 2019, 06:19:57 pm »
Singularly the most incompetent politician I have ever seen in government.

He has destroyed every department he has worked in.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #23 on: March 2, 2019, 07:25:03 am »
How the hell is this twat still in a job,send him back to the benches right at the back and as near to the door as possible.

As i've said convenient scapegoat for May, shows how weak & incompetent she is, that she cant/wont sack him, anyone else who have been just as incompetent would have been long gone.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #24 on: March 2, 2019, 08:20:33 am »
It's a parody account, decent one too. I presume that's the one Geoff means.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #25 on: March 2, 2019, 08:23:12 am »
Singularly the most incompetent politician I have ever seen in government.

He has destroyed every department he has worked in.
that is some feat of stupidity with Davis, Fox, Johnson ( the fat one) and Hunt in the running
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #26 on: March 2, 2019, 08:53:39 am »
Chris Grayling is the Berk du Soleil as Frottage maps out a road to nowhere
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Say what you like about Chris Grayling – and I’m about to – but his face at least has the decency to “get it”. No matter what bullish self-justification is coming out of the transport secretary’s mouth, the face knows the truth. Look at literally any photo of Chris Grayling – honestly, go to Google Images now – and you will see the eyes of a man whose inner monologue is telling him, right at that second, that this one was a follow-through. Now it’s just a question of butching it out till he’s off-camera.

As I write this, Chris is on a hat-trick. On the very morning it emerged that Grayling’s probation reforms from his era as justice secretary will cost the taxpayer at least £171m, it also emerged that the government has been forced to pay £33m to Eurotunnel over his no-deal Brexit ferry fiasco. By the time I have finished typing, Chris could have lost a battle of wits with the A358, or de-invented trains. If you want to put how expensive Chris Grayling is into some kind of meaningful perspective, he’s cost more than new Leicester City manager Brendan Rodgers’ entire transfer budget.

Grayling’s calling card is breathtakingly extravagant feats of incompetence that feel almost technical in their execution. To watch him is to have tickets to Berk du Soleil. There is no interval, and you will sit through the entire spectacle to the bitterest of all ends. When Theresa May finally leaves No 10 to become a cricket pundit for beIN Sports, maybe we’ll find out what precisely Grayling had on her to make him this untouchable.

As for when that will be, when will anything be? The message of this week in Brexit is that the clock is ticking, but also: what even are clocks? I have two favourite vignettes from the voting lobbies on Wednesday night. The first is the news that one minister told the Tory chief whip, Julian Smith: “You don’t know what you’re doing,” to which Smith replied, “I do know what I’m doing”. The second is the revelation that, during the division itself, one MP took the opportunity to ask Theresa May to sign a bottle of wine. I wonder if the abdication crisis was like this, or whether elected representatives were able get through it without asking Stanley Baldwin to autograph their match programmes or their boobs or whatever.

For now, a certain cavalier shamelessness does seem to be in the air. On Friday morning, Dominic Raab gave an interview in which he accused the EU of being dishonourable for honouring the Good Friday agreement (which he famously didn’t read), in the withdrawal deal that he, as Brexit secretary, famously helped to negotiate. If Raab seeks an aide memoire, there is extensive press conference footage of him perspiring next to Michel Barnier. Yes, I’m afraid Dominic Raab is the missing woman’s boyfriend who helps with the search.

See also David Davis, the former Brexit secretary (Territorial), who this week granted an interview with Tatler. Has he got the qualities required to be PM? “Yes,” judged Davis. “And if this were an application for a job as a chief executive, I would probably win it.” Or, as his former permanent secretary has put it: “He could hardly even be bothered to go to Brussels.”

Journey of the week, though, belongs to Nigel Frottage. On Tuesday, Nigel took to the airwaves to say that if the eventual choice was between May’s deal or remain, he wouldn’t campaign or vote – a threat arguably without bite for at least 48% of the country. According to Nigel, he’d “rather go on holiday”. Mmm. A lot of people are saying Nigel might have to “go on holiday” to America soon anyway, so maybe a way to synchronise the two possibilities might be found.

By Thursday, though, Nigel had rallied somewhat, and announced a 12-day, 280-mile march from Sunderland to London. This will begin in about a fortnight, and be led by Frottage and Leave.EU founder and property entrepreneur Richard Tice. Are you familiar with Tice, who seems to be taking more of a front seat as we near the business end of Brexit? He always appears to have wandered in off the set of Howards’ Way, where he’d be part of a plotline involving the 19-year-old daughter of a rival boat designer. Hey – she’s old enough to make her own decisions.

As for the march, think of it as a road movie, but where the main characters walk. The thing about road movies, of course, is that those on the journey learn things about themselves. So if this were the movies, by the time they reach London on 29 March, Nigel will have fallen for a continuity remainer he met while passing through Wetherby, while Tice will have realised it was about the friends they met along the way.

Failing these developments, though, the drama will have to come from somewhere else – and on that I fear we can certainly count. The Brexit campaign event the march seems most closely designed to recapture was the Thames flotilla. (I often think the entire referendum can be boiled down to the moment on that vessel when the Telegraph’s Michael Deacon noted Frottage was back on the fags, and Nigel went: “I think the doctors have got it wrong on smoking.”)

However, the key thing about the flotilla is that the River Thames is relatively inaccessible. The walking route from Sunderland to London is … less so. Even if Leave.EU are charging £50 for the chance to be part of the “core marchers”, you have to think any land-based event is subject to varyingly aggressive forms of entryism. Are we reaching the stage of Brexit where farce repeats itself as riot? As with most of the worst outcomes over the next few weeks, you’d be mad to rule it out.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #27 on: March 2, 2019, 09:23:07 am »
that is some feat of stupidity with Davis, Fox, Johnson ( the fat one) and Hunt in the running
Hunt is different, in some ways he’s a bit like gove.  A ruthless wanker, but competent at doing the job within the confines he has set.  Now, these confines are ridiculous, but he’s achieved them.

Grayling? He still has the sane ridiculous confines, but he has no way of actually achieving them because he’s utterly utterly incompetent
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #28 on: March 2, 2019, 12:39:20 pm »
Has there ever been a more incompetent and wreckless minister?  :no
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #29 on: March 2, 2019, 03:12:15 pm »
Has there ever been a more incompetent and wreckless minister?  :no

David Mellor was about as funny and stupid
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #30 on: March 2, 2019, 03:15:36 pm »
Not counting PMs or Chancellors, possibly IDS as the nearest comparison? They put him in charge of the DWP and we'll be trying to fix the mess he left behind for a generation. Policy detached from evidence and expertise. Not much point getting together the best policy advice available if the minister just turns round and says "Nah, I got this" without any reference to it.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #31 on: March 4, 2019, 07:44:38 am »
All I remember from IDS's leadership days are his 'quiet man' nonsense, but the years since have really shown him up as a dangerous idealogue (not that the Tories are short of them). I'd forgotten he never fought a general election but him as PM would have been terrible for the country (the fact he's an arch-Brexiter and we might have been suffering all that crap 10-15 years earlier notwithstanding).

On topic, it's totally unfathomable that Grayling is still in a job. The best guess I have is that he's a useful lightning rod for bad stories to keep the rest of cabinet lookingly mildly competent.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #32 on: March 4, 2019, 07:59:29 pm »
Chris Grayling under fire from MPs for Brexit ferry absence

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Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has been accused by MPs of evading scrutiny over his department's £33m Brexit payout to Eurotunnel, after another minister took his place in the Commons.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock responded to questions about Friday's settlement.

He defended his appearance, saying the out-of-court payment had secured the "unhindered" supply of medicines if there was no Brexit deal this month.

But Labour said Mr Grayling had become an "international embarrassment".

Its transport spokesman, Andy McDonald, said the cabinet minister had shown his "disregard for taxpayers" by his absence and must be sacked immediately.

"Once again the transport secretary is not in his place to answer a question directed at him," he said.

"Even in this golden age of ministerial incompetence, the transport secretary stands out from the crowd.

"He leaves a trail of destruction in his wake, causing chaos and wasting billions of pounds yet he shows no contrition, no acknowledgement of his mistakes nor any resolve to learn and improve.

"The transport secretary has become an international embarrassment."

Asked where Mr Grayling was, Mr Hancock said he was busy seeking to improve the UK's transport network.

The health secretary challenged the opposition to say they would not have sanctioned the settlement if they had known, without it, vital medicines might not be available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47446459

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #33 on: March 4, 2019, 09:34:03 pm »
I honestly dont understand how you can be so shit at your job and get away with it. It gives public service and the public sector a bad name. If he was incharge of a private company, it wouldn't have got off the ground and if it did, he would have bankrupt it!

Another tosser with a history degree doing a shit job in Goverment. Couldn't run a bath, never mind a goverment department.
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #34 on: March 4, 2019, 10:08:05 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/world/europe/grayling-ferries-uk.html

How Does He Survive? The Curious Case of ‘Failing Grayling’

He’s gone international!

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #35 on: March 5, 2019, 05:30:55 am »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/world/europe/grayling-ferries-uk.html

How Does He Survive? The Curious Case of ‘Failing Grayling’

He’s gone international!

Haha, I read that in the newspaper this morning and thought of this thread.

It's no wonder people are disillusioned with politics when you got him and Nadine Dorris as MPs.

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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #36 on: March 5, 2019, 05:51:03 am »
The correction on that NYT article says it all. An editor saw "billion" and thought "Nah, that's mad, must have meant million. No way has someone cost the taxpayer billions."
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2019, 10:14:10 am »
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After the week/month/year/decade/life he’s had, Chris Grayling needs all the friends he can possibly get. How lucky for Theresa May’s blunderer-in-chief, then, that he is able to summon a gang of them with a mere flick of a switch.

Earlier this week the [New Statesman] had a morning meeting with one pro-Brexit Conservative interrupted by a phone call from a tetchy transport secretary, who was facing an urgent question in the Commons later that afternoon.

Failing Grayling, it transpired, was desperate for supportive questions from his own benches - and our grimacing interlocutor was duty-bound to oblige. “We’ll always support the Brexiteers in government,” they admitted, trying and failing to conceal their embarrassment. “I rather wish you hadn’t seen that.”

(Source: New Statesman's The Week Ahead e-mail, no link sorry)
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2019, 08:50:10 pm »
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it pains me to break the news that Chris Grayling faces potential bill of up to £28m to re-negotiate his ferry no-Deal contracts because the existing deals only covers exit on March 29

FT's Jim Pickard

https://www.ft.com/content/22013e6c-4741-11e9-b168-96a37d002cd3
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Re: It's all gone Chris Grayling
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2019, 08:54:47 pm »
Meh.