Topic: Danny Ings

[MobileBayRed]

yep that's a wise move - unlikely to get much time from the bench today so makes sense to play for the 'reserves'

Have you seen our bench for today.  Only Origi as an attacking option.  With Sturridge injured, this is an interesting move.

[red annie]

Have you seen our bench for today.  Only Origi as an attacking option.  With Sturridge injured, this is an interesting move.

4 attacking players in the eleven starters though.

Ings needs game time.

[Joff123]

Really can not decide whether its best for him to get a loan move for a few months, need him firing fit for when the inevitable injury to Sturridge comes.

His hunger and drive impresses me but his innate quality still raises doubts in my mind.

[missis sumner]

...but his innate quality still raises doubts in my mind.

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[Ken-Obi]

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His Potential Ability rating is <150.

[Joff123]

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his natural quality.. hard work only gets you so far.

[PeterTheRed ...]

4 attacking players in the eleven starters though.

Ings needs game time.

Ings is a versatile attacker. He can play several positions in Klopp's attacking setup.

[Nessy76]

https://streamable.com/kgr1



How could anyone  dislike this guy?

AmazIng.

[missis sumner]

his natural quality.. hard work only gets you so far.

Did you miss out a "lack of" in there then?

I don't think I've seen enough of him to comment on his quality. 

[ZeusMetallica]

Is he likely to make the squad next Saturday? He's been working very hard since and during his injury, came back early and all but we are stacked, especially with Milner and Sturridge fit again.

[Zoomers]

https://streamable.com/kgr1



How could anyone  dislike this guy?

Hahaha

[KingKolo]

Is he likely to make the squad next Saturday? He's been working very hard since and during his injury, came back early and all but we are stacked, especially with Milner and Sturridge fit again.

if Mané's shoulder keeps him out for the weekend, that might open up a space in the match day squad.

otherwise he'll just have to bide his time.
there's the Burton game coming up, surely Klopp will give him a start for that one. Then he can hopefully get on the scoresheet and give Klopp a dilemma

[newterp]

if Mané's shoulder keeps him out for the weekend, that might open up a space in the match day squad.

otherwise he'll just have to bide his time.
there's the Burton game coming up, surely Klopp will give him a start for that one. Then he can hopefully get on the scoresheet and give Klopp a dilemma

Sturridge is probably making the match day squad before Ings - unless Klopp believes in some sentimentality or something.

[KingKolo]

Sturridge is probably making the match day squad before Ings - unless Klopp believes in some sentimentality or something.

yeah definitely. just thinking they might both make the squad if there's no Mané.
but yeah, obviously Sturridge would be ahead in the pecking order if fit

[ZeusMetallica]

New Guardian article hinting Klopp may have told Ings to leave (on a loan?) for game time.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/18/liverpool-agree-to-sell-christian-benteke-to-crystal-palace-for-27m

[bravoco]

Hmm. That's all right until the injury crisis hits around November and we're playing Henderson up front.

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[ZeusMetallica]

Yeah, I think so too. I remember Pearce's piece a week or so ago* saying Klopp intended to keep Ings. Maybe it's a case of The Guardian writers reading between the lines from Klopp's press conference rather than getting information from a LFC source.


I still think he'll be here this season, we'd be foolish to send him elsewhere.

[Claire.]

I'm sure he said in the press conference it *wasn't* the same situation as Flanagan, and when he referred to Ings collecting minutes and scoring goals it was in relation to him playing for the u23's the other day?

Haven't got time to watch it again but I'm sure someone in here has.

[PeterTheRed ...]

I'm sure he said in the press conference it *wasn't* the same situation as Flanagan, and when he referred to Ings collecting minutes and scoring goals it was in relation to him playing for the u23's the other day?

Haven't got time to watch it again but I'm sure someone in here has.

I watched it, and it seems that you are spot on. Lost in translation, or the Guardian journo trying too hard to read between the lines.

[cricketrocks]

I'm sure he said in the press conference it *wasn't* the same situation as Flanagan, and when he referred to Ings collecting minutes and scoring goals it was in relation to him playing for the u23's the other day?

Haven't got time to watch it again but I'm sure someone in here has.

Yep, he did.

I have bags of time, clearly!

[SASDistress]

Pretty sure Klopp said for Ings it is important to play, not which games he plays and that's why he went into the u23 when we didn't need him on that day. That to me shows the opposite of wanting him gone.

[bravoco]

Yep, he did.

I have bags of time, clearly!

Thanks Cricket - hopefully that's put that rumour to bed then.

I like Danny and think he's got plenty to offer. It is a shame for him that we don't have European football, because his game time is likely to be limited this season.

[cricketrocks]

Thanks Cricket - hopefully that's put that rumour to bed then.

I like Danny and think he's got plenty to offer. It is a shame for him that we don't have European football, because his game time is likely to be limited this season.

Sure. 

Even with the cup games, it's hard to see him starting; whoever hasn't started the previous game out of Sturridge and Origi is more likely to start, I guess. Still, an injury to one of them and he is right in the mix.

[Smellytrabs]

Sure. 

Even with the cup games, it's hard to see him starting; whoever hasn't started the previous game out of Sturridge and Origi is more likely to start, I guess. Still, an injury to one of them and he is right in the mix.

I wouldn't rule him out playing a little deeper this season either. I have feeling that Ings could do very similar Houghton/Kuyt like role as one of the 3 in 4-2-3-1.

[TSC]

I've been wondering for a while what Klopp thinks of Ings in terms of being good enough at this level.  He obviously sees him in training regularly.  Supporters would struggle to make some sort of objective assessment simply because he's hardly played with injuries last season. 

He'd a decent season by all accounts a couple of years ago for Burnley in a season which seen them relegated.  But looking at the stats he scored 11 that season, which isn't bad I guess in a relegated team, but not brilliant either.  He scored a couple for us in the cameo roles before getting injured last season.

People make a case for him with comments like 'he'll fit right into a 'Klopp' team' and 'he will run in behind' when comparing him to the likes of Benteke, Balotelli.

But is he technically at a level to effectively lead the line for a team with designs on challenging at the top?  I don't know.  No doubt Klopp will have an opinion by now given he's now been through a pre-season.   

[Lemieux]

Klopp would never throw a player under the bus.  He said positive things about Allen and look what happened to him.  I think he probably rates Ings in the end but obviously not as much as our other 3 options.  If I were Ings I would go on loan.

[steveeastend]

But is he technically at a level to effectively lead the line for a team with designs on challenging at the top?

No. But there are some players in the squad Klopp counts on not necessarily better but offering something important for the team play. I would think this to be key in his case.

No doubt Klopp will have an opinion by now given he's now been through a pre-season.   

For sure, I fear it's not the one the majority around here wants to hear.

[newterp]

No. But there are some players in the squad Klopp counts on not necessarily better but offering something important for the team play. I would think this to be key in his case.

For sure, I fear it's not the one the majority around here wants to hear.

why don't you just state what you know - you've been dropping hints left and right since yesterday.

[Djimi Smicer34]

why don't you just state what you know - you've been dropping hints left and right since yesterday.

That's assuming he knows anything.

Which I really doubt.

Klopp's stated his opinion of Ings and where he figures in our plans this season.  He hasn't left room for misinterpretation in saying clearly that we're counting on Danny Ings so I'd be surprised and disappointed if he's not at the club come the end of the month.  There's absolutely no reason to let him go, Ings has made it clear he's happy to fight for a place here so let's see how he gets on this season.

[cricketrocks]

I wouldn't rule him out playing a little deeper this season either. I have feeling that Ings could do very similar Houghton/Kuyt like role as one of the 3 in 4-2-3-1.

From the little I've seen of him, Ings does seem to be intelligent enough to make it work. I think he'd be more likely to play as a narrow forward on the side of a 4-3-3, if he were to play somewhere other than as centre-forward.

It might depend on whether he still has the same pace after the injury, though.

[Suareznumber7]

Seems like he's 4th choice striker at the moment.  Unless we see a bunch of injuries again this year I don't think he'll see a lot of time on the pitch other then cup games. 

[rafathegaffa83]

Seems like he's 4th choice striker at the moment.  Unless we see a bunch of injuries again this year I don't think he'll see a lot of time on the pitch other then cup games. 

He always was fourth choice, but to be fair had he not been injured last season, he still would have likely been ahead of Benteke. As we saw last year, it only takes a few injuries and he'll get games. And given Sturridge's injury record, that's quite possible. Look at Klavan. In most people's mind, he was fourth choice coming into the season. He ended up starting against Arsenal due to injuries to Sakho and Matip

[xbugawugax]

He always was fourth choice, but to be fair had he not been injured last season, he still would have likely been ahead of Benteke. As we saw last year, it only takes a few injuries and he'll get games. And given Sturridge's injury record, that's quite possible. Look at Klavan. In most people's mind, he was fourth choice coming into the season. He ended up starting against Arsenal due to injuries to Sakho and Matip

look like klopp taking it slow with him too after such a serious injury. Knee issues are always a bit tricky. Don't think he will be in the squad today too if Danny is fit. Better for him to get some game time for his fitness and match sharpness with the u23s.

Really glad that he is fourth choice. A player that is ready and always willing to give his all.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Seems like he's 4th choice striker at the moment.  Unless we see a bunch of injuries again this year I don't think he'll see a lot of time on the pitch other then cup games. 

Ings is not exclusively an out-and-out striker. He can play several positions in the 4-3-3 and the 4-2-3-1.

[Smellytrabs]

From the little I've seen of him, Ings does seem to be intelligent enough to make it work. I think he'd be more likely to play as a narrow forward on the side of a 4-3-3, if he were to play somewhere other than as centre-forward.

Yep. That's the thing that struck me most about him last season, he is a really intelligent footballer. Brains and workrate is such a fucking great combination.

[AndyMuller]

Why wasn't he in the squad yesterday? Injured?

[Nessy76]

Ings is not exclusively an out-and-out striker. He can play several positions in the 4-3-3 and the 4-2-3-1.

Is he the best option at any given time for any other positions, though? I expect he'll get most of his games up front for us, there's even more competition for the other roles.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

He should have been on the bench, and if he was he should have been brought on along with Origi up front to stretch them and inject some pace.

[Dree]

He should have been on the bench, and if he was he should have been brought on along with Origi up front to stretch them and inject some pace.

How can you stretch a team that is already camped in the penalty area? Ings would have been useful I think given his aerial ability and the number of crosses aimlessly pumped in.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

How can you stretch a team that is already camped in the penalty area? Ings would have been useful I think given his aerial ability and the number of crosses aimlessly pumped in.

Bringing him at half-time would have helped a lot more than later on in the match once it was 2-0.