Author Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)  (Read 580157 times)

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Shoulder makes the most sense since we know he played with injections at least once and it was still causing him problems as recently as a couple of games ago according to Klopp.

Good of Uruguay to give him chance to recover rather than test his resolve anyway.

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Apparently has cut on his ankle that's causing discomfort.  These are friendlies anyway not South American qualifiers or anything.

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Apparently has cut on his ankle that's causing discomfort.  These are friendlies anyway not South American qualifiers or anything.

Who said that? Makes sense because they are friendlies, if they were qualifiers he’d of went.

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Maybe just taking the opportunity to rest and heal. Klopp was keep to distinguish between Jota being taken off to protect his health but Nunez was performance. Hopefully this can serve us well for the run in, as he's looked leggy the last few games.

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Think we have been managing his minutes recently and he has been carrying something, hopefully a couple of weeks rest before the upcoming big games

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Liverpool confirmed it now too, just says “Nunez will now miss the games due to an injury, as confirmed by the Uruguayan Football Association, and will instead receive treatment at the AXA Training Centre.”

Treatment on a cut?

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https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1636854083070902274

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Darwin Nunez out of the Uruguay squad after suffering a cut ankle in the Champions League defeat to Real Madrid.

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We are oddly incosistent when it comes to injuries. When we won the league and the CL, we hardly had any injury issues. We had a freakishly fit squad and could play the same 11 game after game. Then in between we've had 2 seasons that have been the worst in living memory. It's tempting to blame the staff, but isn't this largely the same group that did so well in our successful seasons?
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He's gonna lose the foot isn't he?

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We are oddly incosistent when it comes to injuries. When we won the league and the CL, we hardly had any injury issues. We had a freakishly fit squad and could play the same 11 game after game. Then in between we've had 2 seasons that have been the worst in living memory. It's tempting to blame the staff, but isn't this largely the same group that did so well in our successful seasons?
The players who stayed mostly fit then got old, left, or are still not that injury prone. The players getting injured have been mostly new players or players who during that period missed a few games as well (Diaz Jota, Konate Thiago, Jones, Ramsay from the first group) (Matip, Gomez, Keita from the second group) it's only really Firmino and Milner who you'd stay were always available then who aren't now and still with the squad unless I'm missing an obvious one

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Firmino got injured quite a bit the last few years.

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We are oddly incosistent when it comes to injuries. When we won the league and the CL, we hardly had any injury issues. We had a freakishly fit squad and could play the same 11 game after game. Then in between we've had 2 seasons that have been the worst in living memory. It's tempting to blame the staff, but isn't this largely the same group that did so well in our successful seasons?

I would say we had average (maybe slightly above average) luck with injuries when we won the CL and League - we still had quite a few absences (just to name a few: Gomez breaking his leg when in the form of his life in early 2019; Fabinho missing a couple of months in 19-20; Adrian having to play loads of games in 19-20, which directly contributed to us going out of the FA Cup and CL that season; Keita and Chamberlain missing a lot of games or even whole seasons), but what we did have was Virgil, Wijnaldum, Trent, Robbo and the front three very rarely missing games, so we always had a certain foundation of 5-6 players to rely on. However, the idea that we could just pick the same XI all the time simply isn't true.

Our record with injuries is so freakishly bad this season and in 20-21, that people misremember other seasons as being lucky, when in fact they were just average and what other teams could expect to contend with in a "normal" season.
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I’d guess that his shoulder is still giving him grief
Seems to be the in thing to do...
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Would be interesting if you could group injuries by shoe sponsor, or even better, by boot model, if that info was available.
I would actually love to see that sort of data as well.

With all the sports science being applied to the modern-day footballer, that stat would be quite an interesting one along with footplate/sole used. Going back to my own personal findings, I did have Nike for many years both when playing football and rugby, yet move to Adidas Predators as Nike seemed to a) change their fit and b) (this is the boot tart speaking) came out with some godawful offerings that just looked horrendous (although Tiempo's always looked the biz)

Always have two different mouldies and varying stud lengths as well for whatever conditions are out there and at the age of 52 have never had any major tears, pulls or structural damage to my major joints, aside from a freak rabbit-hole injury many years ago.

On the same theme and as I mentioned in my previous post, would the fact that Melwood had more stable ground than the AXA also perhaps have something to do with it? New training pitches created from "made" ground rather than well bedded in turf? Weirdly, I was speaking to the old groundskeeper at Reading a few years back and he was telling me that a newly laid pitch does not have anywhere near the same grip than one that was freshly laid, as more established turf/grass was more reobust and also deeper rooted than newly laid thus giving more traction. To be honest, I was hugely surprised and taken aback at the amount of science that went into these things, as I thought all that was involved was spreading some seed on bare patches and cutting the grass constantly...



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Just in case we were all getting too blasé about injuries, Kostas went off after 20 mins of Greece's game today with a rib injury.

Oh, and of course it was a friendly.  ::)
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 06:13:56 pm by redgriffin73 »
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Thiago Alcântara remains out injured and is adhering to an individual programme after a hip complaint. [Paul Joyce]

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Thiago Alcântara remains out injured and is adhering to an individual programme after a hip complaint. [Paul Joyce]

Not really surprised by that, he's an incredibly slow healer.
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Not really surprised by that, he's an incredibly slow healer.

Do we not order Horse placenta anymore

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Just the week of games you'd desperately want Thiago for, our best midfielder by a mile at City last season. owns Arsenal everytime he plays them and has wrecked Chelsea at SB on his debut. Perfect. Gonna be a grim week.

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Do we not order Horse placenta anymore

Seems the repeat prescription for inhalers hasn't been kept up to date either.
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FFS take a few painkillers and play.
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The issue with Thiago - we had to have known that he was highly-injury prone before signing him but it was a risk we were willing to take. It's been compounded by the oft injured Keita and Ox, etc.

The Richarlison leg-breaker isn't one you can account for - but it is likely that he still would have been injured and missed 2 months that year anyway. Basically the best he plays is 70% of any season which might be fine in isolation.

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FFS take a few painkillers and play.
that'll learn 'im!

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Thiago Alcântara remains out injured and is adhering to an individual programme after a hip complaint. [Paul Joyce]

Good grief.

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Is Darwin back training yet?

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that'll learn 'im!
The problem with the majority of modern day footballers is unless they feel 100% then they don’t want to play …it’s a pity we didn’t have 11 players with the same mentality as Luis Suarez.
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FFS take a few painkillers and play.
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Diaz back for City?

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Diaz back for City?

Probably on the bench at best mate.

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The problem with the majority of modern day footballers is unless they feel 100% then they don’t want to play …it’s a pity we didn’t have 11 players with the same mentality as Luis Suarez.

I dunno, I'm still pissed off Suárez didn't play for us the day after his meniscus surgury. Tainted his entire stint here for me.

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The problem with the majority of modern day footballers is unless they feel 100% then they don’t want to play …it’s a pity we didn’t have 11 players with the same mentality as Luis Suarez.
how do you know that?

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how do you know that?

Body language of course taking into consideration their hair style.

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Body language of course taking into consideration their hair style.
RAWK is blessed with so many body language PhD graduates.

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This is a very interesting piece on what might be wrong  with Bajcetic…

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/03/explaining-stefan-bajcetics-3-injury-possibilities-after-adductor-stress-response/

Thigh splints…. Ouch.


More detail on this here

https://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/ajr.177.3.1770673

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Symptoms of vague hip, groin, or thigh pain may be associated with stress-related changes in the proximal to mid femoral shaft (thigh splints).


This fits the idea of him having little pain…

So this seems to be precautionary in a young player so they don’t have long term effects on their career.
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Amazing how we pick up injuries hithertoo unheard of.

Have long suspected Naby Keita would be abducted by aliens just as he was about
to hit peak fitness.
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Just in case we were all getting too blasé about injuries, Kostas went off after 20 mins of Greece's game today with a rib injury.

Oh, and of course it was a friendly.  ::)

‘Rib injury’.

Rumour has it he’s done a Prince.

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‘Rib injury’.

Rumour has it he’s done a Prince.

Is this an auto-felony reference?
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