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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25520 on: July 5, 2022, 11:09:42 am »
Having done some digging around in the site, ticket 'distribution' is being replaced by and dubbed as ticket 'transfer' it seems

Brace yourselves

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25521 on: July 5, 2022, 11:10:15 am »
Do we know if Members with 13+ will be able to purchase all 19 games with priority this season or will they need to enter the ballots for the games against the promoted teams?

Those 3 games are usually free for alls for all members except if we play a promoted team 1st home game or last home game of the season like we have done a few times recently.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25522 on: July 5, 2022, 11:23:39 am »
Having done some digging around in the site, ticket 'distribution' is being replaced by and dubbed as ticket 'transfer' it seems

Brace yourselves

https://faq.liverpoolfc.com/portal/en/kb/articles/tkt-am-i-able-to-transfer-my-seat-to-someone-else-if-i-cannot-make-it-to-a-game-and-how-do-i-do-this

Nothing in there, bar a link to the ticket transfer section, which then loads a blank page

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25523 on: July 5, 2022, 11:24:52 am »
Yeah looks like they're still updating it.

He's right in that 'Ticket Transfer' is a different term to 'Ticket Distribution' though.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25524 on: July 5, 2022, 11:33:00 am »
Yeah looks like they're still updating it.

He's right in that 'Ticket Transfer' is a different term to 'Ticket Distribution' though.
Exactly... seems to suggest as previously discussed in this thread that the "credit" moves too
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25525 on: July 5, 2022, 12:50:34 pm »
Yeah thats the point I was getting at

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25526 on: July 5, 2022, 01:15:20 pm »
Exactly... seems to suggest as previously discussed in this thread that the "credit" moves too
Highly doubt it to be honest.
People will just give there logins to there mates to save credits if thatís the case.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25527 on: July 5, 2022, 01:16:45 pm »
Highly doubt it to be honest.
People will just give there logins to there mates to save credits if thatís the case.

You can give your login to 50 different people. If they don't have the phone the NFC pass is on, it doesn't make a difference.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25528 on: July 5, 2022, 01:32:31 pm »
I'm glad ticket transfers will be a thing to be honest. We've applied for a few games as a four. If someone can't go at a later date having bought well in advance, will be good to offer the ticket to one of our group first, before any return to the club.

League credits only matter currently at 4 and at 13. Not like other ladders like the aways where its 19 all the way to 1 basically. And if someone does attend 4 through whatever means then they should by rights be in those additional sales. It's the better arrangement than someone having 6, selling 4 of them, but retaining 4+ for the next season and rewards attendance.

I know there is some worry in here over people gaming it to 13, but realistically the club should have a minimum amount that go to 0+ and adjust the required number of credits for the guaranteed sale accordingly. That should be enough to put people off risking gaming it too much. Imagine getting 4 of you onto 13 through gaming the system and then the next season the number is 14 - that's basically all of you off the ladder.

People on 13+ are relatively sorted for now to be honest. People making 13 in future will be relying on spares and late availability tickets to make that number now. You can't get into two "first come first sales" and immediately basket over 13 in both sales anymore - people in the ballots will be lucky to get one game with 0+ credits I reckon- it was fairly competitive last season and Covid was still a massive thing.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25529 on: July 5, 2022, 01:36:06 pm »
I thought the belly-aching about things was bad enough and the lack of knowledge was on twitter and then I was sent in a group chat a video on TikTok ranting about "Not wanting any tickets anyway" because they were in the registration queue of 20k when only 10k tickets available... No wonder Touts have a field day
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25530 on: July 5, 2022, 01:40:18 pm »
I thought the belly-aching about things was bad enough and the lack of knowledge was on twitter and then I was sent in a group chat a video on TikTok ranting about "Not wanting any tickets anyway" because they were in the registration queue of 20k when only 10k tickets available... No wonder Touts have a field day

TBF it certainly has been an advantage to be on the ball, and put more effort in recent years.

Difficult for the club but you can see why they've done it. Now anyone can register and has a chance at a game. It certainly opens it up and makes it fairer for the rest of the fanbase to access tickets, as opposed to logging on with one browser and getting fuck all in both sales. And it should as a result increase the number of memberships that they sell as well.

The only reason I can see it going the other way eventually is that it's *that* competitive, people might sign up, get none in the ballot then not try again. But perhaps the Anfield Road extension will help somewhat with the demand, though I reckon it'll still be well over subscribed.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25531 on: July 5, 2022, 01:48:48 pm »
You can give your login to 50 different people. If they don't have the phone the NFC pass is on, it doesn't make a difference.

Didn't matter last season. Someone just sent me a screenshot (a trusted person), told me I'd have no problems - and I didn't.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25532 on: July 5, 2022, 01:52:21 pm »
Didn't matter last season. Someone just sent me a screenshot (a trusted person), told me I'd have no problems - and I didn't.

Sonofkenny has already said the QR code thing will be going so that wouldn't work.

They'd need your physical phone.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25533 on: July 5, 2022, 01:56:40 pm »
I'm glad ticket transfers will be a thing to be honest. We've applied for a few games as a four. If someone can't go at a later date having bought well in advance, will be good to offer the ticket to one of our group first, before any return to the club.

League credits only matter currently at 4 and at 13. Not like other ladders like the aways where its 19 all the way to 1 basically. And if someone does attend 4 through whatever means then they should by rights be in those additional sales. It's the better arrangement than someone having 6, selling 4 of them, but retaining 4+ for the next season and rewards attendance.

I know there is some worry in here over people gaming it to 13, but realistically the club should have a minimum amount that go to 0+ and adjust the required number of credits for the guaranteed sale accordingly. That should be enough to put people off risking gaming it too much. Imagine getting 4 of you onto 13 through gaming the system and then the next season the number is 14 - that's basically all of you off the ladder.

People on 13+ are relatively sorted for now to be honest. People making 13 in future will be relying on spares and late availability tickets to make that number now. You can't get into two "first come first sales" and immediately basket over 13 in both sales anymore - people in the ballots will be lucky to get one game with 0+ credits I reckon- it was fairly competitive last season and Covid was still a massive thing.

There are two unsuccesful sales to get into and get all the games if you're lucky queue wise
But maybe in future it wont just be 4 and 13

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25534 on: July 5, 2022, 01:57:17 pm »
Didn't matter last season. Someone just sent me a screenshot (a trusted person), told me I'd have no problems - and I didn't.

Issue is that doesnt change game to game, so if someone has a kop ticket every game and sells one on with a screenshot, the next week you could rock up as doors open, first in using that screenshot

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25535 on: July 5, 2022, 01:59:38 pm »
There are two unsuccesful sales to get into and get all the games if you're lucky queue wise
But maybe in future it wont just be 4 and 13
Fair, I had forgotten the unsuccessful sales. Still, it's likely a few number though.

And yes I appreciate the numbers might change. Still, it'll be good that if someone gets sent a ticket it goes on their card.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25536 on: July 5, 2022, 02:31:49 pm »
What happens if you give ur ticket back to the club!? Do you lose the credit then!? I still think they should have put a limit on the transfers you can make to 3 a season. It stops touts from abusing it too much. Cus at the moment they are gonna have a superb season with double prices and end up with the double the amount of accounts they have.

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« Reply #25537 on: July 5, 2022, 02:35:07 pm »
What happens if you give ur ticket back to the club!? Do you lose the credit then!? I still think they should have put a limit on the transfers you can make to 3 a season. It stops touts from abusing it too much. Cus at the moment they are gonna have a superb season with double prices and end up with the double the amount of accounts they have.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25538 on: July 5, 2022, 02:59:33 pm »
yes you lose the credit
Is this all credible info from sonofkenny or just speculation on what MAY happen!?

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« Reply #25539 on: July 5, 2022, 03:08:39 pm »
Is this all credible info from sonofkenny or just speculation on what MAY happen!?
selling back to the club has been in place for ages and has always been you lose the credit
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25540 on: July 5, 2022, 03:16:44 pm »
Is this all credible info from sonofkenny or just speculation on what MAY happen!?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25541 on: July 5, 2022, 03:40:49 pm »
Just had a look on my Google Pay and noticed the barcode changes every 30 sec in the middle.
Maybe they are doing the same for IPhone which would solve the screen shot problem with Iphones.
PS I can't see QR codes going anytime soon as the q's will be massive.

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« Reply #25542 on: July 5, 2022, 04:19:28 pm »
At the moment in the rules it seems they leaving both options DISTRIBUTION and Transfer and they explain the difference between the two. That was updated 4 days ago. Look at file attached.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25543 on: July 5, 2022, 04:38:28 pm »
Just done my ballot entries. Tried as singles last year with no luck, so entered as a group this time round for even less luck :D

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25544 on: July 5, 2022, 05:44:58 pm »
Issue is that doesnt change game to game, so if someone has a kop ticket every game and sells one on with a screenshot, the next week you could rock up as doors open, first in using that screenshot

It doesn't matter if it doesn't change.

According to SOK, the QR code will stop working completely after a few games this season.

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« Reply #25545 on: July 5, 2022, 05:48:20 pm »
Just done my ballot entries. Tried as singles last year with no luck, so entered as a group this time round for even less luck :D

AFAIK your chance is the same whether you enter as a single or as a group. It has to be that way otherwise it is unfair on the billy-no-mates.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25546 on: July 5, 2022, 07:32:10 pm »
Just looking at the QR code on my NFC pass (iPhone), every time I pulled down to refresh it changed.

Edit: Any odds about for getting tickets in the 4+ draw for the City game?
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« Reply #25547 on: July 5, 2022, 08:15:43 pm »
Just looking at the QR code on my NFC pass (iPhone), every time I pulled down to refresh it changed.

Edit: Any odds about for getting tickets in the 4+ draw for the City game?
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25548 on: July 5, 2022, 09:16:48 pm »
Apologies if already covered. Trying to register for tickets and it says Iím allowed 4. When I put 4 in the box, it says that Iíve exceeded my allowance and to go through friends and family. There is however no link to friends and family on that page. Anyone got any idea? Thanks.

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« Reply #25549 on: July 5, 2022, 09:20:22 pm »
Apologies if already covered. Trying to register for tickets and it says Iím allowed 4. When I put 4 in the box, it says that Iíve exceeded my allowance and to go through friends and family. There is however no link to friends and family on that page. Anyone got any idea? Thanks.

You have to link your family and friends before you register.

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« Reply #25550 on: July 5, 2022, 09:33:57 pm »
You have to link your family and friends before you register.
Thought Iíd done that mate but Iíll have a quick look. Cheers.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25551 on: July 5, 2022, 10:49:31 pm »
You can give your login to 50 different people. If they don't have the phone the NFC pass is on, it doesn't make a difference.
Just remove it off that device tho?
Is any of this confirmed because, we will just have empty seats next.

I want to give my arl man my tickets for the first few games, so would he need my phone so I donít lose credits?

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« Reply #25552 on: July 5, 2022, 10:58:03 pm »
Just remove it off that device tho?
Is any of this confirmed because, we will just have empty seats next.

I want to give my arl man my tickets for the first few games, so would he need my phone so I donít lose credits?
If he has a membership then you can transfer your credit for each game to him but he would retain the credit and you would lose it. Otherwise yes youíll have to give him your phone for each game for the credit to be retained on your membership. If the seat was left empty then you would also lose the credit. Thatís what Iíve gathered from the info via this thread.

I donít think you can add / remove the nfc pass between two devices without special confirmation from the club which will look very suspect if youíre doing it all the time. 
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25553 on: July 6, 2022, 01:51:17 am »
I've registered for all 9 league games, 2 tickets, linked my mrs to my account, got the confirmation emails as well  :wave

but when i click the auto cup scheme registration it says 'There are no games available for you to purchase'
have i missed the deadline or something?  :'(

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« Reply #25554 on: July 6, 2022, 02:14:16 am »
I've registered for all 9 league games, 2 tickets, linked my mrs to my account, got the confirmation emails as well  :wave

but when i click the auto cup scheme registration it says 'There are no games available for you to purchase'
have i missed the deadline or something?  :'(
do you have credits from 19/20?

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« Reply #25555 on: July 6, 2022, 02:28:55 am »
do you have credits from 19/20?

nope..

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25556 on: July 6, 2022, 07:06:16 am »
Apologies if already covered. Trying to register for tickets and it says Iím allowed 4. When I put 4 in the box, it says that Iíve exceeded my allowance and to go through friends and family. There is however no link to friends and family on that page. Anyone got any idea? Thanks.

They all have to be members..

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« Reply #25557 on: July 6, 2022, 07:06:49 am »
Just remove it off that device tho?
Is any of this confirmed because, we will just have empty seats next.

I want to give my arl man my tickets for the first few games, so would he need my phone so I donít lose credits?
The ability to constantly redownload your membership is being removed - you have to contact the club for a reset

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25558 on: July 6, 2022, 07:07:34 am »
At the moment in the rules it seems they leaving both options DISTRIBUTION and Transfer and they explain the difference between the two. That was updated 4 days ago. Look at file attached.

Already covered this, they're in the middle of updating it

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« Reply #25559 on: July 6, 2022, 07:31:23 am »
If he has a membership then you can transfer your credit for each game to him but he would retain the credit and you would lose it. Otherwise yes youíll have to give him your phone for each game for the credit to be retained on your membership. If the seat was left empty then you would also lose the credit. Thatís what Iíve gathered from the info via this thread.

Where are you getting this from ???  I haven't read anything on this thread including the stuff from 30Fiver and SOK about the, as yet, unconfirmed news that if you transfer the ticket then the person you transfer to gets the credit doesn't state this ???