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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31920 on: September 10, 2015, 08:05:43 pm »
In fariness to Zidane he did correctly state the Steven Gerrard "is the very best in the world".

Listen to Zizou man knew his stuff !!

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31921 on: September 10, 2015, 08:05:57 pm »
This whole thing is just weird. A strange 'transfer' saga from start to finish. I'm not sure what position United are in to insist on 'a full commitment' (Rick Astley negotiating obviously) or no release clause. I'm even less sure why De Gea would agree to it.

Thats one way to stop a leak in the camp.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31922 on: September 10, 2015, 08:09:00 pm »
Supposed confirmation from Perez that the error was caused by United.

Then in the midddle out pops a smiling glen johnson pulling up his jersey to reveal a t-shirt of suarez with a text saying. "OUR SUAREZ IS A FRIEND TO ALL COLOURS!"

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31923 on: September 10, 2015, 08:09:12 pm »
Has David and his agent run this by his girl friend, 5 more years in Manchester with no release clause..;)

Of course the papers are going to claim he's staying and will sign a new contract. That's the ONLY reason Mendez would come to Manchester. Sure it is LOL.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31924 on: September 10, 2015, 08:12:51 pm »
Aye, because it wouldn't be perfecting timing, you know after all the leaks of the player unrest and fuck ups at the club, for United to release a snippet that De Gea is going to sign a new contract with no get out clause would it?

Load of rubbish. If he signs then he has a cast iron get out to Madrid.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31925 on: September 10, 2015, 08:15:12 pm »
Aye, because it wouldn't be perfecting timing, you know after all the leaks of the player unrest and fuck ups at the club, for United to release a snippet that De Gea is going to sign a new contract with no get out clause would it?

Load of rubbish. If he signs then he has a cast iron get out to Madrid.

It's weird to be honest, even if he was to sign a new deal I'd fully expect him to be a RM player next season.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31926 on: September 10, 2015, 08:17:14 pm »
Thomas Sorensen: "When he turns and runs at people he is just about unstoppable. His pace is frightening and at times he reminds me of Thierry Henry. He still has a lot of learning to do because he loses the ball too much but he showed he is a great prospect."

Who was he talking about then? A Sunderland prospect? Bendtner?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31927 on: September 10, 2015, 08:19:39 pm »
If he blames Madrid makes sense. In his position I would want to paid be it a sign on fee or huge new deal... Being nearly 25 & one of the best keepers in the world but on 30k p/w is shit.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31928 on: September 10, 2015, 08:23:15 pm »
If he blames Madrid makes sense. In his position I would want to paid be it a sign on fee or huge new deal... Being nearly 25 & one of the best keepers in the world but on 30k p/w is shit.

All true, however, if he did blame Madrid and was against going there in future I could imagine a whole host of better clubs that the one he is at now coming knocking.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31929 on: September 10, 2015, 08:27:51 pm »
A new contract is a win for everyone other than madrid.

If he gets 300k a week out of them, plus sign on bonus, he'd be looking at 20m for this season vs the 44k a week he'd be on otherwise.  Manu put a 20m release clause on it and then regardless of whether they'd not be making a profit next summer if the clause was triggered, they wouldnt look like amateurs as they wouldve sold him for 20m - no one would write about that they may have ended up paying that amount to get him to sign - rather than looking like the club that ballsed up his transfer then lost him for nothing, plus they may get a more focussed player for the season.

Mendes would be happy cos he'd get his money from the contract extension, and then also from him going to madrid, plus he'd then be able to demand more than 300k a week off madrid whereas now madrid know giving him 150k would still be 300% increase on his current contract.

Madrid would then either have to end up paying more than they prolly would had he gone on a free or have to find a new gk.  The risk for de gea is if madrid then decided he wasnt worth it, then he'd be stuck in manchester, albeit on a good contract.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31930 on: September 10, 2015, 08:29:37 pm »
300K a week? Not a chance.  Rooney would have to be paid about 500K-a-week then.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31931 on: September 10, 2015, 08:31:05 pm »
Gutted if they keep hold of De Gea, one of the best around
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« Reply #31932 on: September 10, 2015, 08:36:27 pm »
All true, however, if he did blame Madrid and was against going there in future I could imagine a whole host of better clubs that the one he is at now coming knocking.

Not sure theres many better options including the financial side. Read as well United would be willing to backdate the pay rise a year or something which is pretty generous. Barce should really tap him up & screw over Madrid.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31933 on: September 10, 2015, 08:43:29 pm »
Not sure theres many better options including the financial side. Read as well United would be willing to backdate the pay rise a year or something which is pretty generous. Barce should really tap him up & screw over Madrid.

Them or City - imagine having Hart and De Gea fighting it out for the starting position.....
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31934 on: September 10, 2015, 08:57:28 pm »
Why do the United squad care so much about Cacky Raphael?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31935 on: September 10, 2015, 09:01:41 pm »
He'll more than make up any wage losses this season with the massive signing on fee he'll get at Madrid for going there on a free next summer.

They were willing to pay what, £20-30m for him this summer? He could easily see a £15m signing on fee for going there on a free as well as a massive wage.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31936 on: September 10, 2015, 09:03:40 pm »
Rumor is 200,000 per week and a 10 mil buyout.

They keep him happy for a season and RM get their man but have to pay United a token fee.

Otherwise, DDG doesn't sign, United get nothing next summer, and RM pay him a sign on bonus of 15-20 mil. RM still save money over what they would have paid this summer  to United.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31937 on: September 10, 2015, 09:05:20 pm »
Rumor is 200,000 per week and a 10 mil buyout.

They keep him happy for a season and RM get their man but have to pay United a token fee.

Otherwise, DDG doesn't sign, United get nothing next summer, and RM pay him a sign on bonus of 15-20 mil. RM still save money over what they would have paid this summer  to United.

Sounds realistic.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31938 on: September 10, 2015, 09:07:27 pm »
Why would De Gea sign that?

He'll get an added £7m or so in wages, but he'd get double that in a signing on fee next summer.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31939 on: September 10, 2015, 09:09:50 pm »
Why do the United squad care so much about Cacky Raphael?

Van Gaal drew a chalk penis on his back.

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« Reply #31940 on: September 10, 2015, 09:14:15 pm »
Who was he talking about then? A Sunderland prospect? Bendtner?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31941 on: September 10, 2015, 09:49:57 pm »
Rumor is 200,000 per week and a 10 mil buyout.

They keep him happy for a season and RM get their man but have to pay United a token fee.

Otherwise, DDG doesn't sign, United get nothing next summer, and RM pay him a sign on bonus of 15-20 mil. RM still save money over what they would have paid this summer  to United.
doesnt sound right .

But if so his agent should be shot .

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31942 on: September 10, 2015, 09:57:11 pm »
Why would he sign a new contract, when he holds every card (as if were)?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31943 on: September 10, 2015, 10:02:59 pm »
doesnt sound right .

But if so his agent should be shot .

New contract - his agent gets money. Move to Real Madrid - his agent gets money?

But yeah otherwise it seems strange, but might be something along the lines of making the situation more bearable for Man Utd and de Gea until next seasons move. And all parties would more or less earn/loss as much money anyway?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31944 on: September 10, 2015, 10:04:24 pm »
Why would he sign a new contract, when he holds every card (as if were)?

playing time? no appearances unless he signs would make him a doubt for Euro 2016

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31945 on: September 10, 2015, 10:07:04 pm »
playing time? no appearances unless he signs would make him a doubt for Euro 2016
also if he gets a career ending injury he's financially better off

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« Reply #31946 on: September 10, 2015, 10:23:18 pm »
playing time? no appearances unless he signs would make him a doubt for Euro 2016

Who cares?

If you're DDG and you move to Real Madrid next summer, do you really care if you get one summer off and miss the Euro's? You'll be Spains #1 playing for RM, you'll be at World Cups and other Euro's the rest of your career.

You get one summer off to take your girl friend on extended holiday. Could be worse.
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« Reply #31947 on: September 10, 2015, 10:26:18 pm »
Who cares?

If you're DDG and you move to Real Madrid next summer, do you really care if you get one summer off and miss the Euro's? You'll be Spains #1 playing for RM, you'll be at World Cups and other Euro's the rest of your career.

You get one summer off to take your girl friend on extended holiday. Could be worse.

you honestly think a player in the top 3 of his position would be cool with losing out one year of playing professionally for a club and the chance to become European Champion ?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31948 on: September 10, 2015, 10:52:32 pm »
Why would he sign a new contract, when he holds every card (as if were)?

Makes no difference, Fabian Delph mark 2. Sign a contract with a low release clause. Fans buy your shirt, sing your name. Off to a bigger club in the summer for a nominal fee, instead of you getting the fee as a signing on bonus, it goes to Man Utd, who already passed it on to you in 500% wage increase.
It's all just money shuffling to make everyone look a little better and appease the easily fooled and overly optimistic Man Utd fans. Even when he leaves in the summer they'll be spun a story that he got sold against his wish because Manuel  Neuer is coming and they'll believe it.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31949 on: September 11, 2015, 02:32:05 am »
I won't be happy until they are fighting among themselves on the pitch after we knock a 5th goal in on Saturday
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31950 on: September 11, 2015, 04:07:58 am »
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United
« Reply #31951 on: September 11, 2015, 04:15:19 am »
De Gea won't be frozen out. They purposefully fucked up this transfer to ensure he stays. It'll just be like Suarez post the Arsenal flirtations. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs a contract with a buy-out clause just like Suarez did, so Utd ensure they make a bit of money, and De Gea gets a pay day for staying the season.

The only question is whether this affects him mentally. It did the opposite with Suarez. When Ronaldo was initially denied a move to Madrid, his form didn't drop either. Only case I can think of in recent times where a player's form DID drop, is Sterling during the City flirtations.

I have a feeling this whole saga won't make much of a difference to anything, other than highlighting in front of the world that Utd are no longer in the top echelon of clubs aka Real/Barca/Bayern. Even PSG, Chelsea and City have a stronger pull factor than them now, and are routinely embarrassing them in the transfer market.

It's another sign that they have the potential of becoming what we did in the early 90s.

Would be amusing if he picked up an injury and was benched for most of the season anyway. Very amusing.

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31952 on: September 11, 2015, 08:58:32 am »
Wondering is De Gea getting less welcoming signals from Madrid lately as happy with their keeper at present ?

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31953 on: September 11, 2015, 09:21:42 am »
I far from an expert but I could only imagine De Gea signing a new contract because he's concerned RM wont push the boat out for him.  How true that might be is anybody's guess.  Could be his own agent is scaremongering him for his own cut of the fee.  Otherwise it makes no sense; he can manage on his current wages and get reimbursed with whatever signing on fee RM will pay him when he's out of contract.  At the first sign of a major wobble at United and he'll be back between the sticks, assuming he wants to play.  Can't see even Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal boxing him out for the whole season.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31954 on: September 11, 2015, 10:00:02 am »
Think it's a Suarez new contract with us type of thing and probably gets his transfer next summer. I know he's holding all the cards here (although his place will be in severe danger for Euro '16) but it's a good gesture towards Man Utd.
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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31955 on: September 11, 2015, 10:07:19 am »
Think it's a Suarez new contract with us type of thing and probably gets his transfer next summer. I know he's holding all the cards here (although his place will be in sever danger for Euro '16) but it's a good gesture towards Man Utd.
i was just about to post something similar

its so united can name their price next summer as its likely he will go then anyway

like suarez it was never 100% even after his contract he was going to stay the following season anyway.
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« Reply #31956 on: September 11, 2015, 12:00:57 pm »
https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/642291550987358208

@ManUtd - David De Gea has signed a new four-year contract at #mufc with an option to extend for a further year.


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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31957 on: September 11, 2015, 12:02:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/642291550987358208

@ManUtd - David De Gea has signed a new four-year contract at #mufc with an option to extend for a further year.

Suarez did that also and still left for Barcelona ;)

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Re: Louis Van Gaal is still the Manager of Manchester United and David De Gea
« Reply #31958 on: September 11, 2015, 12:05:51 pm »
He'll still leave.  United have protected themselves as far as getting a fee is concerned and the player has gotten himself a hefty rise until he fucks off.


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« Reply #31959 on: September 11, 2015, 12:08:21 pm »
If its long term or short term a great deal for United.  :butt