Topic: The NFL Thread

[PaddingtonRed]

Bengals release veteran RB Joe Mixon, sign RB Zack Moss.

They also sign safety Geno Stone, Stone who led the Ravens in INTs last season joins Cincy on a two year deal.

However, Tee Higgins is reported to have requested a trade after being franchise tagged. Not many players have taken on the Brown/Blackburn family and won, the last player I recall who held out was Carson Palmer who was traded for two 1st rounders. Of course Tee won't generate that much capital but it'll take a big offer before Cincy even considers entering into talks.

 

[rafathegaffa83]

Given his age and his recent injury that Cousins contract seems foolish.

[Jookie]

Anyone know anything about Xavier McKinney? Haven't seen much of him. Was hoping to land Simmons from Denver but hopefully this will still be an upgrade in the secondary.

I don’t watch the Giants much by I think McKinney is a player who is getting better year on year. Statistically, by PFF, he was one of the highest graded safeties in the NFL in 2023. Eagles were also after him this off season

Upgrade for the Packers but I’m a bit surprised by contract value. Puts him in Top 5 paid safeties in the league when considering average yearly value of contract. Lot of safeties available in free agency so I expected the market to be a little suppressed. This McKinney deal suggest it isn’t.

[Jookie]

Given his age and his recent injury that Cousins contract seems foolish.

The Falcons will improve with Cousins at QB.

Just doesn’t make sense that they offer Cousins this contract this off season and 12 months ago they declared themselves uninterested in Lamar Jackson when he was potentially available

[Vote For Pedro]

So Vikings going for Darnold short term and possibly a draft pick to develop?

[voodoo ray]

The Falcons will improve with Cousins at QB.

Just doesn’t make sense that they offer Cousins this contract this off season and 12 months ago they declared themselves uninterested in Lamar Jackson when he was potentially available

Something very weird went on there. I'm not saying it was definitely collusion but I think it was probably collusion.

[Canada Loves Anfield]

The Falcons will improve with Cousins at QB.

Just doesn’t make sense that they offer Cousins this contract this off season and 12 months ago they declared themselves uninterested in Lamar Jackson when he was potentially available

Not only would we have had to offer Lamar a Watson style contract, but it would have cost us 2-3 first round picks, as well. That would mean no Bijan this year. No edge rusher this year (hopefully) and probably not another pick next year.

Cousins contract is basically 2+1. 2 years/90 and flexibility to get out of it if he wants to retire/injuries/performance. Considering the state of NFL QB play these days, I think its a fair chance to take while the skilled players are still on their rookie deals.

[Zaffarious]

Derick Henry to the Ravens! damn! gonna be tough to deal with that offence ... unless they forget to run the ball for no reason again

[Jookie]

Not only would we have had to offer Lamar a Watson style contract, but it would have cost us 2-3 first round picks, as well. That would mean no Bijan this year. No edge rusher this year (hopefully) and probably not another pick next year.

Cousins contract is basically 2+1. 2 years/90 and flexibility to get out of it if he wants to retire/injuries/performance. Considering the state of NFL QB play these days, I think its a fair chance to take while the skilled players are still on their rookie deals.

I know you lose the draft picks but getting Lamar you get an elite QB who was 26 at the time. You get one of the best players in the league His contract ended up being $52M per year over 5 years. That's a better deal than Cousins for 45M a year. Even if you lose 2 x 1st round picks. Definitely wouldn't be worried about losing a RB personally. Unless Robinson is CMC or Derrick Henry level (and he might end up being that) than a 1st round pick is a waste on a RB in my opinion.

Jackson is a better QB than Cousins by a mile. He's not coming off an injury. He's 27 not 36. He'd give you elite performance and continuity at QB for more than 2 years (injury permitting). There's no way in my opinion that the Cousins deal can be argued to be better at this point.

[FlashGordon]

I don’t watch the Giants much by I think McKinney is a player who is getting better year on year. Statistically, by PFF, he was one of the highest graded safeties in the NFL in 2023. Eagles were also after him this off season

Upgrade for the Packers but I’m a bit surprised by contract value. Puts him in Top 5 paid safeties in the league when considering average yearly value of contract. Lot of safeties available in free agency so I expected the market to be a little suppressed. This McKinney deal suggest it isn’t.

Thank you. PFF are very contentious at the moment, JJ Watt definitely not a fan 

[skipper757]

Aaron Rodgers needs to go away.  I'm sick of him.

Sick of this stupid franchise and their tomfoolery.  Maybe if you weren't morons at drafting QBs, you wouldn't need to pick up RFK Jr.'s running mate. 

[MBL?]

Eagles sign CJ Gardner Johnson on a 3 year up to 33mil contract. Was a bad idea letting him go last year. Happy he's back.

[Jookie]

Eric Kendricks still any good?

I know he was a 1st team All-Pro a few years back at the Vikings but didn’t see him much at the Chargers last season.

Think the 49ers signing Kendricks may be a sign that Greenlaw’s Achilles injury might put him out of the start of next season.

[Canada Loves Anfield]

I know you lose the draft picks but getting Lamar you get an elite QB who was 26 at the time. You get one of the best players in the league His contract ended up being $52M per year over 5 years. That's a better deal than Cousins for 45M a year. Even if you lose 2 x 1st round picks. Definitely wouldn't be worried about losing a RB personally. Unless Robinson is CMC or Derrick Henry level (and he might end up being that) than a 1st round pick is a waste on a RB in my opinion.

Jackson is a better QB than Cousins by a mile. He's not coming off an injury. He's 27 not 36. He'd give you elite performance and continuity at QB for more than 2 years (injury permitting). There's no way in my opinion that the Cousins deal can be argued to be better at this point.

This is all fair and good but the Ravens were always going to sign him...so its just mental gymnastics. He was never coming to ATL. It wasn't a conspiracy. All owners knew this.

[Knight]

This may be way off base but isn't Derrick Henry a bit over the hill now? I really like the Ravens so want them to do well and this seems like a weird move. 

[Canada Loves Anfield]

This may be way off base but isn't Derrick Henry a bit over the hill now? I really like the Ravens so want them to do well and this seems like a weird move. 

Its pretty much a 1 year deal. Now go look at his stats from last year and the year before. Man is still a beast.

[Jookie]

Its pretty much a 1 year deal. Now go look at his stats from last year and the year before. Man is still a beast.

Henry still looks like one of the best RBs about. Previously he was the best about. Age has probably made him come back more to the pack. His contract with the Ravens is commensurate with that. $16M over 2 years probably puts somewhere in the middle of the Top10 best paid RBs. That seems about right.


Challenge with most running backs is production as they get into late 20’s and early 30’s. A lot just fall off a cliff. Henry’s last 12 months seems a gentle decline from a very high position so he still looks like a good bet to deliver a +1000 yard rushing season in 2024.

[Ray K]

Aaron Rodgers needs to go away.  I'm sick of him.

Sick of this stupid franchise and their tomfoolery.  Maybe if you weren't morons at drafting QBs, you wouldn't need to pick up RFK Jr.'s running mate. 

Fuck Aaron Rodgers now, fuck him forever

CNN

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has confirmed that among his potential vice-presidential prospects is New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who in private conversations shared deranged conspiracy theories about the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting not being real.

CNN knows of two people with whom Rodgers has enthusiastically shared these stories, including with Pamela Brown, one of the journalists writing this piece.

Brown was covering the Kentucky Derby for CNN in 2013 when she was introduced to Rodgers, then with the Green Bay Packers, at a post-Derby party. Hearing that she was a journalist with CNN, Rodgers immediately began attacking the news media for covering up important stories. Rodgers brought up the tragic killing of 20 children and 6 adults by a gunman at Sandy Hook Elementary School, claiming it was actually a government inside job and the media was intentionally ignoring it.

When Brown questioned him on the evidence to show this very real shooting was staged, Rodgers began sharing various theories that have been disproven numerous times. Such conspiracy theories were also later at the center of lawsuits brought by victims’ families when they sued conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on the matter.

Brown recalls Rodgers asking her if she thought it was off that there were men in black in the woods by the school, falsely claiming those men were actually government operatives. Brown found the encounter disturbing.

Rodgers, through one of his agents, declined to comment to CNN.

CNN has spoken to another person with a similar story. This person, to whom CNN has granted anonymity so as to avoid harassment, recalled that several years ago, Rodgers claimed, “Sandy Hook never happened…All those children never existed. They were all actors.”

When asked about the grieving parents, the source recalled Rodgers saying, “They’re all making it up. They’re all actors.”

Rodgers went on to delve into some of the darker caverns of the false conspiracy theory. This person found the encounter disturbing.

[FlashGordon]

A deranged individual, makes me sick that I used to be a big fan.

[MBL?]

Eagles sign LB Devin White. No idea how good he is but we definitely needed something in this position.

[Garrus]

Bears get Keenan Allen for a 4th rounder.

Probably means they'll trade down from 9. Good situation for Caleb to come into.

[voodoo ray]

that seems like a decent trade for a 4th.

justin herbert must be sitting there wondering who he's go to throw the ball to this year now. keeping bosa and mack while getting rid of williams and allen is definitely some kind of statement.

[filopastry]

that seems like a decent trade for a 4th.

justin herbert must be sitting there wondering who he's go to throw the ball to this year now. keeping bosa and mack while getting rid of williams and allen is definitely some kind of statement.

Its a very strong WR class in the draft to be fair, and picking 5 (if they don't trade down) they have a chance to pick up one of the top 2, assuming QBs go 1,2,3

[Dull Tools]

Bears get Keenan Allen for a 4th rounder.

Probably means they'll trade down from 9. Good situation for Caleb to come into.

Chiefs get Hollywood Brown too.

Surely the Chargers are getting a WR at 5 now.

[voodoo ray]

Its a very strong WR class in the draft to be fair, and picking 5 (if they don't trade down) they have a chance to pick up one of the top 2, assuming QBs go 1,2,3

if it really is that strong a WR class, would taking one at 5 not be a bit of a waste?

I've no idea where their other picks are or just how many of these good WR depth are admittedly.

[filopastry]

if it really is that strong a WR class, would taking one at 5 not be a bit of a waste?

I've no idea where their other picks are or just how many of these good WR depth are admittedly.

You could go either way, the top 3 are viewed as being pretty special but you could probably still get a first round talent in the second.

Picking 5 though its like WR or trade down, its where the strength at the top of the draft seems to be.

Teams seem to be trying to move up to grab a QB so there would likely be trade partners available

[filopastry]

Vikings trading with Houston to get another first rounder (23rd pick) they definitely look like they are trying to get in position to trade up for a QB.

[voodoo ray]

Rams DT Aaron Donald has announced his retirement.

[Ray K]

Rams DT Aaron Donald has announced his retirement.

One of the greatest to ever do it.  No defensive player wins a Super Bowl on his own. Apart from Aaron Donald.

[filopastry]

Yeah he really was one of a kind

[voodoo ray]

Just the 8 first team all pro selections in 10 seasons.

[Statto Red]

Kenny Pickett being traded to the Eagles

[voodoo ray]

took his ball and fucked off so it seems.

[Skeeve]

Bears get Keenan Allen for a 4th rounder.

Probably means they'll trade down from 9. Good situation for Caleb to come into.

They could definitely do with converting that 9th into some more picks, based on draft pick value, it'd equate to a mid 1st and 2nd (plus later picks as you go further down the round order) and allow them to add an early round edge rusher and another WR.

They are in a suprisingly good position though, they have made some good depth signings so far in free agency, so if nobody makes them a good offer they could stay put and have their pick of the edge rushers or one of the top 3 WR's could easily fall to that pick too if there's a run on QB picks.

[Rosario]

Justin Fields vs Russell Wilson QB battle in Pittsburgh wasn’t on my offseason bingo card.

[FlashGordon]

Justin Fields vs Russell Wilson QB battle in Pittsburgh wasn’t on my offseason bingo card.

I don't think that'll be much of a competition. I'd give them a live chance in the playoffs with Fields.

[Stevo79]

Wilson and Fields isn’t a QB 1 and 2 I was expecting a month ago!

[Statto Red]

 Steelers give up a 2025 6th round pick, potential to rise to 4th round depending how many games Fields plays in, & Steelers go from a QB room of Pickett, Rudolph & Trubisky to Wilson & Fields in a week, & has cost the Steelers peanuts.

[voodoo ray]

I'm good with the bears, and I'm good with the steelers. I paid to fly to another country to go and watch both.

but the steelers really need to stop getting bears reject QBs. is there really another team in the nfl that over the past 50 years or so have a worse record at that position than chicago? really?

[Statto Red]

I like Fields, think he's talented but raw, & has not been helped that the Bears are a dysfunctional organisation, plus the Steelers have give up peanuts to sign him.