Topic: Diogo Jota (Diogo José Teixeira da Silva)

[JC the Messiah]

A lively start from him, but I thought that the ball deflected off his arm for the goal. I'd have been fuming if Arsenal had equalized in similar circumstances.

It came off his thigh, and hit his upper arm. That's not handball. If you'd have been fuming at a similar call at the other end, you'd have been wrong.

[ljycb]

Excited to see what this lad looks like after spending some time working with Klopp. Most of the things you could possibly want in a forward look to be there already.

[royhendo]

Thought he looked the part, you know.

[So… Howard Philips]

Looks like excellent vover for Mane and Salah with Minamino covering for Bobby.

Lovely.

[Crosby Nick]

Looks like excellent vover for Mane and Salah with Minamino covering for Bobby.

Lovely.

Yeah it really helps our depth. He’s not just cover for Sadio. And if the others need a rest you could still play Jota left and Mané right. Suddenly seem full of depth everywhere now (in midfield and up front anyway).

[clinical]

Looks like excellent vover for Mane and Salah with Minamino covering for Bobby.

Lovely.

Yep. Is Origi now 7th choice? I think Shaqiri starts ahead of him on the right.

[El Lobo]

We’ll have to rotate a fair bit I think too, he’s too good to just be a supersub and starting cup games

[IanZG]

Yep. Is Origi now 7th choice? I think Shaqiri starts ahead of him on the right.

Think Jota plays on the right (or Mane right, Jota left) before we start Shaqiri. Don't know if he's injured again, but Origi was on the bench yesterday, while Shaq wasn't. Can't imagine Origi now being 6th choice at the moment. The cup lineup will tell us a lot about that.

[Drinks Sangria]

We’ll have to rotate a fair bit I think too, he’s too good to just be a supersub and starting cup games

I think it'll be a case of this, this season. Jota is almost 4 years younger than Sadio and Mo, so it's succession planning whilst bedding him in, without the need for him to carry the pressure that goes with being Sadio Mane or Mohamed Salah. It's what you'd expect from our set up and the three-into-two rotational possibilities mean we'll likely always have a stronger front line out than we can always have said in previous seasons.

He absolutely looked the part, some nervy finishing with his first and should've maybe been more vocal with Mo after that mess up, but took his goal well and with that out the way I expect to see less of the misplaced finishing and more goals.

[Gods_Left_Boot]

Looking forward to seeing him start (and maybe bag a couple) on Thursday.

[Dougle]

Well I liked what I saw. He backed himself with the ball, took players on, took shots on and kept going till he scored. Hmmm, reminds me of a certain Egyptian.

[Samie]

Mido?

[No666]

He looks the part to the point that it allows us to sell Origi and Brewster to teams who will play them, and thereby recoup some/most of his fee. Constant evolution, small gains and all that jazz.

[Jm55]

Not that it matters but any reason why that goal wasn't disallowed for handball?

Looked a handball to me (off his arm.)

I can't keep up with the rule changes on this but I just wondered whether it was correctly allowed or we got away with one?

[demain]

It came off his thigh, and hit his upper arm. That's not handball. If you'd have been fuming at a similar call at the other end, you'd have been wrong.

The way the handball rule is being applied, I now have no clue what's permissible and what's not.

[Caston]

Not that it matters but any reason why that goal wasn't disallowed for handball?

Looked a handball to me (off his arm.)

I can't keep up with the rule changes on this but I just wondered whether it was correctly allowed or we got away with one?

I don't think it actually hits his arm - looks like he controls it with his knee and it bounces of his chest, but because his arms out it looks like it hits his arm. But it is very hard to see clearly!

It's similar to the Van Dijk incident last season which wasn't a handball either.

[Gaz123456]

Very promising start and it's always good for a new player to get a goal early on. A decent performance on Thursday would seal his 'arrival' with the team.

[Ghost Town]

Think Jota plays on the right (or Mane right, Jota left) before we start Shaqiri. Don't know if he's injured again, but Origi was on the bench yesterday, while Shaq wasn't.

Can't have everyone on the bench. Could have had more if the PL chairmen weren't so myopic. I expect Shaq will start on Thursday

[smutchin]

It came off his thigh, and hit his upper arm. That's not handball.

Depends where on the 'upper arm' it hit him. Everywhere from fingertips up to 'level with the armpit' counts as handball. However, I don't know if that means the whole ball has to be above the armpit line or just part of it.

You can tell by the way he's moving his arm backwards that it must have hit him at least partially above the armpit line. I'd call it more his shoulder than his upper arm, to be honest.

[Ghost Town]

Depends where on the 'upper arm' it hit him. Everywhere from fingertips up to 'level with the armpit' counts as handball. However, I don't know if that means the whole ball has to be above the armpit line or just part of it.

You can tell by the way he's moving his arm backwards that it must have hit him at least partially above the armpit line. I'd call it more his shoulder than his upper arm, to be honest.

Think they've changed the parameters and up to the T-shirt line, i.e the rounded curve of the shoulder down to the start of the bicep is now not counted as handball. Or something.

[smutchin]

Think they've changed the parameters and up to the T-shirt line, i.e the rounded curve of the shoulder down to the start of the bicep is now not counted as handball. Or something.

Ah, I see... I think.

Absolutely definitely not handball in that case. I think.

[JC the Messiah]

I heard an explanation that instead of the line going from the arm-pit up, it now goes from the arm-pit horizontally.

It hit his upper arm above that imaginary line.

As mentioned, it's roughly where the sleeve sits (unless it's a longer sleeve!).

[SerbianScouser]

His Mane trajectory is off to a good start.

[Ghost Town]

His Mane trajectory is off to a good start.

Scoring in his debut against Arsenal... hmm, I spy a pattern

[Crosby Nick]

Scoring in his debut against Arsenal... hmm, I spy a pattern

He didn’t get a piggyback off Klopp. He’s never going to make it here.

[smutchin]

His Mane trajectory is off to a good start.

He's already a full Portugal international, isn't he? Phew. At least that means there's no chance of him getting called up to AFCON due to his Nigerian grandmother or something.

Does he have a broken iPhone?

[Alf]

Was really impressed with Jota last night. Was a big decision to hook Mane but it came off.

[an fear dearg]

Not that it matters but any reason why that goal wasn't disallowed for handball?

Looked a handball to me (off his arm.)

I can't keep up with the rule changes on this but I just wondered whether it was correctly allowed or we got away with one?

Because he plays for us and the refs apply different rules when it comes to us to ensure we win the title again...

[PeterTheRed ...]

I really like how he fits our style of play.

[Dougle]

Mido?

Touché   

[Peabee]

The way the handball rule is being applied, I now have no clue what's permissible and what's not.

Read the rules then. His arm wasn’t in an unnatural position. He didn’t stick his arm out to control it.

[Kansti]

He's gonna score loads

[Carra-ton]

It didn't hit his arm. The angle is deceiving. It just hit his chest near to his arm but not his arm.

[Bobinhood]

Think i like this guy. Clean cut articulate humble trier with mad skillz.

[Morgana]

It didn't hit his arm. The angle is deceiving. It just hit his chest near to his arm but not his arm.

The idea that there was a handball is just Arsenal propaganda which Sky Sports have fuelled in their refusal to show the goal from any other angle except the one that looks like handball. When you watch it on any other broadcaster you see all the angles. LFCTV posted a good all-round clip of it on their Twitter feed.

Ignore the noise. 

[Red Beret]

He certainly has the mentality to succeed here, but then we know how carefully the club vets its targets these days.

He's  got the chance to learn off the best whilst potentially being in a position to succeed them. That's about as much the Liverpool way as you can get.

[Vinay]

Does the ball actually hit his arm/hand on that goal on Monday night? If so, should it be handball?

[killer-heels]

Does the ball actually hit his arm/hand on that goal on Monday night? If so, should it be handball?

Its not definitive, kind of like Van Dijk’s incident against Wolves last year. Even if it did it might have hit the sleeve which puts it out of scope.

But I reckon they didnt chalk it off because you cant tell if it hit his arm or not.

[AmanShah21]

Was so good today. I can finally see what people where talking about with the Luis comparisons. He'll score loads for us.

[gerrardisgod]

Busy little bastard, ain’t he?