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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #40 on: December 8, 2023, 10:49:44 am »
Turn up. Win however. Go top of the league and get home. Sounds like a decent plan to me.

Palace have been pretty shit recently, but we know they will put a shift in against us, and their ground is a pretty hostile place. We need to quieten them down early doors. Pretty sure Nunez starts this after the midweek rest, and I reckon Endo keeps his spot after a really tidy game against Sheff United. I think Jones will start this one rather than Gravenberch in replacement of McAllister. Tsimikas back in - Gomez looked uncomfortable at left back.

I suppose one option is to start Gomez at right back and put Trent directly in midfield to replace McAllister (if deffo out) ?

I was thinking about Trent in midfield too.

Gomez staying at RB though.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #41 on: December 8, 2023, 10:55:30 am »
Start Gravenberch and Elliott

Get at them right from the off and overwhelm them

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #42 on: December 8, 2023, 11:18:05 am »
Start Gravenberch and Elliott

Get at them right from the off and overwhelm them

In place of ?
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #43 on: December 8, 2023, 11:36:37 am »
Endo, Elliot, Gravenberch, give MacAllister the weekend off and leave Dom on the bench. Gapko, Nunez and Salah up top. Gomez out for Kostas.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #44 on: December 8, 2023, 11:38:31 am »
In place of ?

I’d rest Szoboszlai, the lad must be fucking exhausted. Keep Endo in the side, he’s earned it. MacAllister could do with a rest to to be honest, especially after getting the shit kicked out of him in the last game. That midfield is more than enough to beat Palace

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #45 on: December 8, 2023, 11:42:55 am »
MacAllister could do with a rest to to be honest, especially after getting the shit kicked out of him in the last game. That midfield is more than enough to beat Palace
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #46 on: December 8, 2023, 11:44:45 am »
Endo/Gravenberch/Szoboszlai for me. Don't want too much change across the team, everyone can rest in midweek and Palace don't have the same depth/quality we have and are also playing a rare 3 game week.

Tsimikas probably returns and hopefully Alisson is ready. Hopefully not tested much by a bang average Palace attack.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #49 on: December 8, 2023, 12:01:28 pm »
Sounds like Macca could be out for a few games.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #50 on: December 8, 2023, 12:28:19 pm »
Does anyone know where there wasn't a 1230 kick-off last weekend?

We played Thursday night, so we were obviously ruled out, but surely some else could have played in that slot? If Sky/TNT are so desperate for a 1230 game, why isn't there one every week? Why only when Liverpool seem to be available?
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #51 on: December 8, 2023, 12:30:16 pm »
Can't wait for the relentless, endless, boring ass drone of their support. Throw in that dumb ass with the drum and job done. Sound off for this one!

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #52 on: December 8, 2023, 12:32:02 pm »
Does anyone know where there wasn't a 1230 kick-off last weekend?

We played Thursday night, so we were obviously ruled out, but surely some else could have played in that slot? If Sky/TNT are so desperate for a 1230 game, why isn't there one every week? Why only when Liverpool seem to be available?
If you play in the champions league/European football the Wednesday before you don't have to play the 1230 and one of Newcastle or Manchester United had. When the clubs/PL last agreed on the TV deal they didn't put it in for Internationals or normal midweek games. Maybe they have this time but I doubt it.

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« Reply #53 on: December 8, 2023, 02:01:49 pm »
Reading what was said it sounds like Alisson is a possible for tomorrow.

Even if he doesn’t make this game, that sounds positive for next week
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #54 on: December 8, 2023, 03:05:26 pm »
Does anyone know where there wasn't a 1230 kick-off last weekend?

We played Thursday night, so we were obviously ruled out, but surely some else could have played in that slot? If Sky/TNT are so desperate for a 1230 game, why isn't there one every week? Why only when Liverpool seem to be available?

There were two games in the evening instead. Forest Everton at 5.30pm and Newcastle United 8.00pm.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #55 on: December 8, 2023, 04:02:19 pm »
This could be a slog.

Weather looks horrific and early kick off.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #56 on: December 8, 2023, 04:33:29 pm »
There were two games in the evening instead. Forest Everton at 5.30pm and Newcastle United 8.00pm.

Right, so we could play tomorrow night then as well? I'm with Klopp, we seem to be getting shafted with these early kick-offs.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #57 on: December 8, 2023, 04:40:27 pm »
Right, so we could play tomorrow night then as well? I'm with Klopp, we seem to be getting shafted with there early kick-offs.
tbf its obvious that our games at 12-30 are getting the biggest worldwide viewing figures thats why we are continuously being shown at the  peak time in the middle east

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #58 on: December 8, 2023, 04:48:16 pm »
Then given we seem to be a cash-cow, you'd expect us to be somewhat of a golden child. Instead we get fucked-over by the FA, PGMoL and the PL every chance they get. Then when we get someone injured after getting flogged with shitty kick-off times, we get told to suck-it-up.

Getting trolled essentially.

Anyhow, let's get this done and go top of the league. Hopefully everyone stays fit.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #59 on: December 8, 2023, 05:28:44 pm »
Win and go top of league, what more incentive is there.

Jones in for Mac I imagine, Nunez in for Gakpo. Maybe Tsimikas back in too.

I’d start Elliott personally too.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #60 on: December 8, 2023, 06:02:21 pm »
I was thinking about Trent in midfield too.

Gomez staying at RB though.

It has that feel of injuries providing an opportune moment to put trent in midfield as his primary position.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #61 on: December 8, 2023, 06:37:41 pm »
Thanks for the OP Yorky. Unlike a lot here I think this is going to be tough. The only reason is that I think we’ll find it hard to break down a packed defence. It may be an option to play Gomez as he is fast and can quickly get back to snuff out any counter attacks.

I also think that Elliott would be a good option as he is good against a packed defence.

I think Wataru should play as he needs more game time to show what he can do.

Hopefully we win easily.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #62 on: December 8, 2023, 06:44:58 pm »
My issue with Elliott can be his lack of physicality and he would start over Dom.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #63 on: December 8, 2023, 07:09:10 pm »
Personally I'd like to see Quansah given a chance at cb especially as Palace have scored less goals than Sheffield utd
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #64 on: December 8, 2023, 07:12:42 pm »
Personally I'd like to see Quansah given a chance at cb especially as Palace have scored less goals than Sheffield utd

I am all for promoting youth but we have a chance to go top tomorrow.

It’s our third game in 7 days so we just need to go and get it done.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #65 on: December 8, 2023, 07:20:33 pm »
Doesn't need to be any huge rotation tomorrow. The game on Thursday is a dead rubber and the next league match is eight days away.

Bring Tsimikas back in, keep Ibou at centre half, and just bring in one of Gravenberch or Jones for AMA. Two wide men pick themselves and I think Nunez will start. Should be relatively fresh given it's the 3rd game in a week.

The schedule from now until the new year is good, no complaints. As noted above the last Euro game is a dead rubber, and the next league match isn't for another eight days. Beyond that it's another three games in a week long period with West Ham/Arsenal/Burnley, not easy, but then it's another five days until the Newcastle game which is practically unheard of that time of year. Win tomorrow and excitement for that period will be off the charts.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #66 on: December 8, 2023, 07:31:26 pm »
Quansah alongside the best CB in the world please. Gomez and Konate played full games on wednesday and with their injury histories and with Joel's injury we need to mitigate the risk of another injury at CB. Quansah has the perfect combination of confidence and temperament to get the job done a la his MOM performance at Wolves.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #67 on: December 8, 2023, 07:46:55 pm »
Fantastic write up yorky, thank you.

The MF choice is the big one isn't it? I'm expecting a small rest for Mac Allister due to his knee, so does Harvey or Curtis start or is it Endo starting for the first time with both Gravenberch and Szoboszlai.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #68 on: December 8, 2023, 07:47:19 pm »
Given the way we fared against Luton and Sheffield Utd, I'm not taking any result for granted - even from a Hodgson team playing with one eye blind and one hand broken.

Strangle the game, overpower them, hit them hard and show no mercy. Expect no protection from the referee, so rotate the squad well and use the subs to guard against cards and injuries.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #69 on: December 8, 2023, 09:37:57 pm »
Always a tough game ar Palace, or at least it seems to be.  Maybe 3 changes from midweek but need to start well for a change and get this wrapped up as soon as.  Is a two goal lead at half time too much to ask?
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« Reply #70 on: December 8, 2023, 09:54:52 pm »
Thanks for the OP Yorky

This should be another good opportunity to improve our away record. Expect it’ll prove to be a similar slog to the last game though.

Was surprised neither Jones or Elliott started against Sheff Utd, but given we’ve lost Mac Allister now at least one must start tomorrow.

Would be a real bonus if Alisson was back but we should still have enough to get the 3 points one way or another.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #71 on: December 8, 2023, 10:30:05 pm »
This will be tough...really tough.

You know Palace will have no concern just sitting all 10 men behind the ball and playing for the 0-0.

The worst scenario will be giving them chances on the break like we seem to be giving everyone these days - including an awful Sheffield Utd team.

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« Reply #72 on: December 8, 2023, 11:24:26 pm »
Great OP Yorky.
Excited for this. Will be interesting how the midfield is rotated for this with Mac Allister out

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #73 on: December 8, 2023, 11:49:09 pm »
Something has to give here. We've gotten the games over the line lately but haven't looked good. So do Palace start turning around their fortunes or do we start getting back to the performances we know this team can deliver. If we're playing Endo then Jones and Elliott would do for me as partners. Ideally I'd do Endo/Jones/Gravy but both Jones/Gravy like the LCM role more than the right or at least seem more at home there. Should be Endo/Jones regardless. Need the 3 points here, expecting it. Up the Reds!

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #74 on: December 9, 2023, 12:35:00 am »
A win would be utopia.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #76 on: December 9, 2023, 12:58:11 am »
Another shit kick off time.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #77 on: December 9, 2023, 01:47:47 am »
tbf its obvious that our games at 12-30 are getting the biggest worldwide viewing figures thats why we are continuously being shown at the  peak time in the middle east

of course - Hong Kong, Singapore, Jakarta, Malaysia, Australia - hundreds of Millions want to watch us. Klopps's point is it should be 1. Fairer (we've had 13 this year, compared to most clubs with 1 or 2), and 2. Fairer to the players welfare; so for example have the 12:30 game for teams that have had a week to prepare and not when players are making 12 hour flights back from overseas 2 days before.

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« Reply #78 on: December 9, 2023, 02:48:04 am »
Something has to give here. We've gotten the games over the line lately but haven't looked good. So do Palace start turning around their fortunes or do we start getting back to the performances we know this team can deliver. If we're playing Endo then Jones and Elliott would do for me as partners. Ideally I'd do Endo/Jones/Gravy but both Jones/Gravy like the LCM role more than the right or at least seem more at home there. Should be Endo/Jones regardless. Need the 3 points here, expecting it. Up the Reds!
My preference is close to yours (Jones Szobo and Grav). Wouldn't start Szoboslai? Or is that just because you think he needs rest so rotating?

Hopefully this is quite handy timing of this fixture given our squad is much better equipped than theirs to handle little rest, and theres fan unrest to make things difficcult for them (as long as we avoid a start that unites them)

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Re: Crystal Palace v Liverpool preview
« Reply #79 on: December 9, 2023, 04:06:54 am »
Matchday! Let’s get another 3 points!  :wave
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