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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Aeon on Today at 11:12:35 am »
That's right, who was Salah before "they" made him?

Sorry for going off the superfan line giving FSG the green light for another fire sale in the upcoming window, which undoubtedly will happen. Salah deserves also respect.

Salah has been a better player and more loyal than fan favourites like Henderson, Alonso, Torres.

As for the Chelshit "reject" comments, he is in the same list as De Bruyne, Havertz, Pulisic and so many others who did alright after the left the london shit.

Klopp is a great Manager and very loyal.
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20 goals minimum should be the target

we will buy a top class forward in the summer that will get the goals next season

And who is that forward?
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Can we go a step further and let the analysts pick the team as well?

We should win every game on paper then,can't wait for the theoretically all conquering nerd formula for winning to be in place.  ;)
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Media and Arts / Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Last post by Barefoot Doctor on Today at 11:11:04 am »
It feels longer, because Marvel haven't released a single decent movie since then. I'd be surprised if they can fuck up Deadpool v Wolverine though.

Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was good. And No Way Home was massive, although I don’t know if it was particularly good. Agree it feels longer although I think a huge part of that is COVID.
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This is spot on. People bring up his numbers as if he's a 1 in 2 striker (or 28 a season in the post you quoted) but he just isn't. He's had one prolific season and it wasn't for us. Like it or not for us he's a 10/11 goal a season striker who cost us a mad amount of money. We aren't Man City, we can't afford to spend that money and not get results. We can manipulate stats however we like, if he really was a 28 goal a season, or even a 20 goal a season striker in the league, we'd still be in the race to win it.

I'd blame the whole front 3.

Can't just blame Darwin. Left winger whos apparently the player of the season has 8 goals and 5 assists in the league.

Salah hasn't done anything for months apart from scoring against United.
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His stats aren't as good as Tony Hateley's were. A similar sort of player too. But Tony Hateley got 28 goals in his one and only season at Anfield. And then he was sold. Shanks knew he wasn't right for the team. Big and combative, for sure, a producer of chaos, yes, but on a different wavelength to players like St John, Thompson, Hunt and Callaghan. And no finesse.

I look at Darwin, and yes he can be effective. He's not calm in front of goal of course, but he can blam them in occasionally. He treats the ball like a hot potato sometimes, but he's extremely fast and given a bit of open space and he can outstrip a defence easily. He's an odd sort of player for Liverpool though. We've never really tried to integrate a centre forward like him into our team before. Rafa initially tried it with Dirk Kuyt (much slower than Darwin but equally prone to just smashing the ball as hard as he could to goal). He soon gave up and put him on the right wing (a defensive position for Rafa). Will Slot persevere with the experiment? No idea. I rather hope he looks for another Firmino to play at 9 myself.
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I really don't see the problem in handing transfers and recruitment to the DoF entirely.

The coaching team being given more responsibilities over transfers since our league title win has hardly improved us. In general, managers getting in on the act of signing their preferred players produces more duff signings than success these days. Look at Man Utd and Ten Hag, and West Ham with Moyes (whose best players have all been DoF signings).

It won’t be, anyone indicating Slot will have players pushed on to him is talking shit and has an agenda.

We’re go back to the model before Edward’s left and eventually Klopp took more responsibility, which is good because it burn Klopp out.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by kop306 on Today at 11:09:49 am »
11 from 1997 minutes.

20 goals minimum should be the target

we will buy a top class forward in the summer that will get the goals next season
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But he isn't scoring 19 league goals a season is he?! He has 20 league goals TOTAL between his two seasons.

The per90 stats don't work like that in reality do they? He's not playing 90mins every game, nobody does. And he's not scoring 19 league goals a season despite what the per90 stats claim, he's scoring an average of 10 goals a season.

What are we doing here? Seriously.

People are sacrificing actual factual output in favour of theoretical output and somehow claiming the high ground?

If Darwin's underlying numbers are so elite why aren't they translating to league goals? If they're so good why isn't he *actually* scoring more? If he doesn't have issues with putting the ball in the net why doesn't he have more than 9 league goals last year and 11 this? Bad luck? That's what all the analysis and incredibly detailed number crunching comes down to? Just bad luck? Not very scientific.

Could it perhaps be because, just possibly, just maybe, there are elements in his play that the numbers you're looking at aren't showing?Could it possibly be because they're interpretive but not necessarily 100% transferable to the reality of what we're actually seeing from him?
This is spot on. People bring up his numbers as if he's a 1 in 2 striker (or 28 a season in the post you quoted) but he just isn't. He's had one prolific season and it wasn't for us. Like it or not for us he's a 10/11 goal a season striker who cost us a mad amount of money. We aren't Man City, we can't afford to spend that money and not get results. We can manipulate stats however we like, if he really was a 28 goal a season, or even a 20 goal a season striker in the league, we'd still be in the race to win it.
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Imagine posting that how many minutes a player is on the pitch for isn’t relevant when considering how many goals they’ve scored …. Even worse imagine actually thinking that’s a solid piece of reasoning and makes your case
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