Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread

[gerrardisgod]

Adam Lewis joins Livingston on loan for the season.

[Bread]

Adam Lewis joins Livingston on loan for the season.

How did he fare at Plymouth last year? I know his loan spell at Amiens was pretty disastrous but I've not heard much about his Plymouth stint.

[HopefulRed]

The echo now saying Ethan Ennis social media now suggesting he may be going to Chelsea.  Either way he seems to be leaving us.  Shame

[Fordy]

The echo now saying Ethan Ennis social media now suggesting he may be going to Chelsea.  Either way he seems to be leaving us.  Shame

Agent putting him about then. The move to Utd made no sense anyway.

[Sinyoro]

The echo now saying Ethan Ennis social media now suggesting he may be going to Chelsea.  Either way he seems to be leaving us.  Shame

Is he really that good?

I get the Duncan vibes with this

[Acapulco]

I get the Duncan vibes with this.

Very much so. Has proved nothing yet.

[HopefulRed]

Do we believe the bits of gossip that suggest we have bought 17 year old Ghanaian Abdul issahaku Fatawa?

[HopefulRed]

This is the same player we were said to have bought back at the end of May, when the Echo said “no”, but the stories are back again

[JasonF]

Do we believe the bits of gossip that suggest we have bought 17 year old Ghanaian Abdul issahaku Fatawa?

It seems likely it's true if it's correct that the president of Steadfast has confirmed it.

Given how we tend to treat the signing of young players, I doubt we'll confirm it officially, at least not before he's 18. Sounds like he'll be loaned to Sporting Lisbon.

[Sinyoro]

This is the same player we were said to have bought back at the end of May, when the Echo said “no”, but the stories are back again

Most of the noise is coming from Ghana:

- It is alleged that he did medicals in Germany and signed a 5 year contract but will be loaned out
- His Nigerian agent starting messing up with Leverkusen after ‘Pool submitted a bigger fee and wages

Who knows, but the reporting is not ambivalent at all

Yet another left footer if he comes

[ElPayaso]

I get the Duncan vibes with this.

Very much so. Has proved nothing yet.

I haven't been impressed the few times I've seen Ennis, physical player with an eye for goal, but not that technically gifted?

[gerrardisgod]

Van den Berg gone back to Preston for the season.

[Fordy]

Van den Berg gone back to Preston for the season.

It was part of the deal last season.

Preston had 1st pick if we were sending him back out on loan. Good luck to him.

[tubby]

Should be another good loan for him, wonder if they'll keep him at right back or move him inside.

[Djozer]

Isn't he massive though, as in, better suited centrally? Remember a photo of him stood next to Klopp and he looked even taller than him. Still, that kind of versatility can only be a good thing.

[sminp]

Should be another good loan for him, wonder if they'll keep him at right back or move him inside.

He apparently wants to be playing centrally, whether or not they’ll give him that chance is another thing though

[No666]

Looks like they will. Talk they're going three at the back and he'll be on the right.
Manager's comments:

“He came as a right centre-back. He didn’t get many games playing in that position, but he fitted in really well as a right back and then as a right wing back.

"I thought he was fantastic. I think he’s done really well and we’ll see how he does at right centre back."

If he does well, we will maybe see him as our fourth/fifth centre back and TAA cover next season.

[disgraced cake]

Best of luck to Sepp on another loan move, by all accounts he was excellent for PNE in his 5/6 months there. If he can replicate his form over a full season and grow in quality in a couple of areas then I think it's likely he could have a good future here, he's still only 19 and with experience at right back now he's an even more appealing prospect, because versatility is massive. Hope he smashes it there and then we'll wait and see what happens next with him, perhaps a loan move at a higher level or he stick around depending on the status of the squad.

[HopefulRed]

Back on the Ghanaian 18 year old, James Pearce has tweeted that LFC have defo not bought him.  End of ..

[67CherryRed]

Back on the Ghanaian 18 year old, James Pearce has tweeted that LFC have defo not bought him.  End of ..

I haven't been this disappointed since we didn't sign Sylvain Marveaux.

[RainbowFlick]

Gonna be devastating if that Arat kid doesn't make it as a professional. Will also be devastating if Liverpool end up letting him go to Barcelona's academy somehow.

Only aged 7 but could be our own Mbappe.

[royhendo]

Conor Bradley getting hyped up to the max by Caoimhe O'Neill in The Athletic. Sounds like that's us sorted for the next 15 years cos we have Roberto Carlos in our ranks.

We do hype our kids up a fair bit, don't we? Sometimes they're pretty good I guess, but is Bradley really able to cover for Neco?

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

Conor Bradley getting hyped up to the max by Caoimhe O'Neill in The Athletic. Sounds like that's us sorted for the next 15 years cos we have Roberto Carlos in our ranks.

We do hype our kids up a fair bit, don't we? Sometimes they're pretty good I guess, but is Bradley really able to cover for Neco?

I noticed Owen Beck more in the Youth Cup games I watched, but I didn't either fullback showed up that well. Bradley certainly didn't look ready to be our RB cover for the first team. I'm all for filling these kids with confidence but I call BS on this line that we wont need someone if Neco leaves.

[MD1990]

Conor Bradley getting hyped up to the max by Caoimhe O'Neill in The Athletic. Sounds like that's us sorted for the next 15 years cos we have Roberto Carlos in our ranks.

We do hype our kids up a fair bit, don't we? Sometimes they're pretty good I guess, but is Bradley really able to cover for Neco?

The same happened with Brewster,Hoever & others.
to be honest it has worked the media hyping as we jave made good money on players from the academy in the last 5 years

[Oskar]

Conor Bradley getting hyped up to the max by Caoimhe O'Neill in The Athletic. Sounds like that's us sorted for the next 15 years cos we have Roberto Carlos in our ranks.

We do hype our kids up a fair bit, don't we? Sometimes they're pretty good I guess, but is Bradley really able to cover for Neco?

If we draw a lower league team in the domestic cups, yes.

We wouldn't thrown him in at a ground like Old Trafford like we did with Trent, but it sounds like he'll be in and around the first-team picture this season. He's one of the best prospects we have at the moment.

[Chris~]

I noticed Owen Beck more in the Youth Cup games I watched, but I didn't either fullback showed up that well. Bradley certainly didn't look ready to be our RB cover for the first team. I'm all for filling these kids with confidence but I call BS on this line that we wont need someone if Neco leaves.

beck didn't play in the youth cup this year

[Chris~]

Conor Bradley getting hyped up to the max by Caoimhe O'Neill in The Athletic. Sounds like that's us sorted for the next 15 years cos we have Roberto Carlos in our ranks.

We do hype our kids up a fair bit, don't we? Sometimes they're pretty good I guess, but is Bradley really able to cover for Neco?

I don't think it's us, although maybe we could refuse then publishing these articles.

They have 3 dedicated Liverpool correspondents to find something to write for and must know these sort of articles get clicks. There was quite a few through the season on youth players and we seemed to be the only side talked about ahead of the youth cup final, which I guess is again driven by who was going to bring in the traffic/views.

[El Lobo]

The same happened with Brewster,Hoever & others.

to be honest it has worked the media hyping as we jave made good money on players from the academy in the last 5 years

The same didnt happen with Brewster and Hoever. They both got to a level where they were able to play for us without particularly standing out as a kid stepping up a level, but not quite good enough to get regular minutes and perhaps then not enough to progress as much as we/they would like. They werent sold because the media had hyped them up.

Incidentally.....Brewster has just turned 21 and Hoever turned 19 six months ago. They havent retired yet

[MD1990]

The same didnt happen with Brewster and Hoever. They both got to a level where they were able to play for us without particularly standing out as a kid stepping up a level, but not quite good enough to get regular minutes and perhaps then not enough to progress as much as we/they would like. They werent sold because the media had hyped them up.

Incidentally.....Brewster has just turned 21 and Hoever turned 19 six months ago. They havent retired yet

The media hype  may have helped us get better fee's never said that was the reason they were sold.
Hoever for potentially up to 15m was a huge fee for someone with no first team experience. He has done fine at Wolves last season though.

Brewster was another large fee for someone who had only played for 6 months at 1st team level.

[El Lobo]

The media hype  may have helped us get better fee's never said that was the reason they were sold.
Hoever for potentially up to 15m was a huge fee for someone with no first team experience. He has done fine at Wolves last season though.

Brewster was another large fee for someone who had only played for 6 months at 1st team level.

Hoever did have first team experience, however small. He'd scored a goal for the first team.

This is generally how youth football works. We signed him as a very, very highly rated youngster. If anyone has helped getting big fees for youngsters with limited experience, its probably Chelsea. Sign highly rated youngsters, don't get much of a chance in the first team but others are still keen to get them for what will turn out to be a bargain if they fulfil their potential. Brewster wasnt a great move for him or Sheff United granted but he's still young enough to turn it around. Its got very little to do with hyping up our youngsters. Hoever is a pretty awful example because he looks like he's got all the tools to be a monster.

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

beck didn't play in the youth cup this year

Sorry, meant Norris

[MD1990]

Hoever did have first team experience, however small. He'd scored a goal for the first team.

This is generally how youth football works. We signed him as a very, very highly rated youngster. If anyone has helped getting big fees for youngsters with limited experience, its probably Chelsea. Sign highly rated youngsters, don't get much of a chance in the first team but others are still keen to get them for what will turn out to be a bargain if they fulfil their potential. Brewster wasnt a great move for him or Sheff United granted but he's still young enough to turn it around. Its got very little to do with hyping up our youngsters. Hoever is a pretty awful example because he looks like he's got all the tools to be a monster.

Very rarely since Klopp & Edwarsd have been here we have regretted selling players young or old.

Brewster can become a decent championship striker.

Hoever is a decent young player comfortable on the ball. All the tools to be a monster I dont think so.
If he did we wouldnt have let him go.
Could be one we got wrong time will tell but i doubt it

[El Lobo]

Very rarely since Klopp & Edwarsd have been here we have regretted selling players young or old.

Brewster can become a decent championship striker.

Hoever is a decent young player comfortable on the ball. All the tools to be a monster I dont think so.
If he did we wouldnt have let him go.
Could be one we got wrong time will tell but i doubt it

I'm not sure there are any....? Sorry...what was your point exactly?

Also doesnt mean much really, does it? Rhian Brewster working under Klopp and Ljinders, playing alongside the likes of Salah, VVD, Mane, TAA et al is likely to become a better player than Rhian Brewster working under Chris Wilder and playing alongside the likes of McBurnie, Jagielka and Ramsdale.

[tubby]

Conor Bradley getting hyped up to the max by Caoimhe O'Neill in The Athletic. Sounds like that's us sorted for the next 15 years cos we have Roberto Carlos in our ranks.

We do hype our kids up a fair bit, don't we? Sometimes they're pretty good I guess, but is Bradley really able to cover for Neco?

From what I saw of him he definitely has the build and physicality that someone like Neco lacks as a modern fullback.  Neco is a more refined footballer, but Bradley looks a better bet for our playstyle.

[ElPayaso]

I don't think either Neco or Conor are ready to cover for Trent, and from what I've seen I highly doubt any of them will be. They can have decent careers though and if we can get 10m£+ for Neco it's a no-brainer for me, and most likely good for him. I still regret letting Hoever go, even if he hasn't really smashed it for Wolves yet he's still a really exciting player, and he could have covered at CB for us last season as well. If we decide to sell Neco, Klopp is probably relying on Milner/Gomez to cover for Trent.

[royhendo]

Suppose Ben Davies might be the missing piece in that little right back jigsaw.

[North Red]

Suppose Ben Davies might be the missing piece in that little right back jigsaw.

Good point.
Has Davies ever played right back before?

[Welshred]

He's apparently left footed

[So… Howard Philips]

Suppose Ben Davies might be the missing piece in that little right back jigsaw.

Ben Davies is definitely the missing piece or the missing link.

Like the Yeti I won't believe he exists until I see him playing, or training or even in a Nivea advert.

[sminp]

Suppose Ben Davies might be the missing piece in that little right back jigsaw.

He’s left footed and plays as the left centre back. Most likely Gomez or Milner as backup RB I would think, particularly if Konate settles in well and can keep Gomez on his toes for the right sided CB place