Author Topic: Jonjo Shelvey (Read 81645 times)

Nessy76 · « **Reply #360 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:16:52 am »

Quote from: Wiss_LFC on February 24, 2014, 01:12:40 am

Would of loved to see him do his celebration towards the Kop as a little joke

Exactly, of course he should have.

Alonso_The_Assassin · « **Reply #361 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:18:49 am »

Was a moment of rarity, to be honest. Class from both Jonjo and our fans. The mutual respect in such situations seems to be lost on the whole. Last time I remember something similar was when Robbie Keane scored at the Annie Road end on the last day of the season in 08/09.

elpistolero7 · « **Reply #362 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:20:46 am »

Really nice lad. So much respect when he scored. Great fucking goal, too. Asshole always turns up against us.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #363 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:21:08 am »

Quote from: Alonso_The_Assassin on February 24, 2014, 01:18:49 am

Was a moment of rarity, to be honest. Class from both Jonjo and our fans. The mutual respect in such situations seems to be lost on the whole. Last time I remember something similar was when Robbie Keane scored at the Annie Road end on the last day of the season in 08/09.

Why is it classy not to celebrate? It's bullshit. You're a footballer, you've scored a goal for the team that pays your wages, and the fans that have paid to watch you play, go fucking nuts.

It's not like we're battling relegation or something, we don't need pity from a lad who wasn't quite up to the grade for us.

jckliew · « **Reply #364 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:22:06 am »

Quote from: elpistolero7 on February 24, 2014, 01:20:46 am

Really nice lad. So much respect when he scored. Great fucking goal, too. Asshole always turns up against us.

Aye

he appears to up his game against us.
That's two good goals against us now

BUSHMILLS · « **Reply #365 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:29:54 am »

Quote from: Nessy76 on February 24, 2014, 01:21:08 am

Why is it classy not to celebrate? It's bullshit. You're a footballer, you've scored a goal for the team that pays your wages, and the fans that have paid to watch you play, go fucking nuts.

It's not like we're battling relegation or something, we don't need pity from a lad who wasn't quite up to the grade for us.

'Pity'? Where do you get that from?

He was a player who always tried his hardest for us, who appreciated the support the fans gave him when he was here, and who never wanted to leave.

His reluctance to celebrate, and the crowd's applause, was a show of mutual respect.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #366 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:37:50 am »

Quote from: BUSHMILLS on February 24, 2014, 01:29:54 am

'Pity'? Where do you get that from?

He was a player who always tried his hardest for us, who appreciated the support the fans gave him when he was here, and who never wanted to leave.

His reluctance to celebrate, and the crowd's applause, was a show of mutual respect.

And if he had celebrated, would you have respected him any less? It's bollocks. Oh, I can't hurt the feeling of the fans who used to like me in case they don't like me any more. If you want to not score against us in the first place, that might be helpful, but pretending you didn't want to score a goal, when that is all you are fucking good for in the first place...

Don't get me wrong, I like Jonjo, and he's not the only one who has picked up on this weird little trend, but it's not for me. Fair enough if the goal is going to send your childhood club down to the conference or something, but we're Liverpool FC, we can take it.

It's more upsetting that someone scores than that they celebrate it.
It's his job to entertain his own club's fans, not worry about hurting ours' feelings.

We'd get over it. Well, I'd hope we would. Because frankly, it's slightly insulting to suggest otherwise.

Pricey · « **Reply #367 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:42:30 am »

Selling Shelvey and buying Luis Alberto. Apparently great business according to some on here.

Alberto apparently has a higher ceiling as a player. Where was Alberto btw? Didn't make the match squad because a youth player is better than him. Top bit of business that.

Had a little smile to myself when Shelvey scored and applauded as did many around me. Great lad, good player and a frankly stupid decision to sell him. Loan him out if he wanted games, but why sell him.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #368 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:44:58 am »

Quote from: Pricey on February 24, 2014, 01:42:30 am

Selling Shelvey and buying Luis Alberto. Apparently great business according to some on here.

Yes. Definitely.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #369 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:46:00 am »

Always liked Jonjo. Frustrating as hell, though.

farawayred · « **Reply #370 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:47:52 am »

Quote from: Pricey on February 24, 2014, 01:42:30 am

Selling Shelvey and buying Luis Alberto. Apparently great business according to some on here.

Alberto apparently has a higher ceiling as a player. Where was Alberto btw? Didn't make the match squad because a youth player is better than him. Top bit of business that.

Had a little smile to myself when Shelvey scored and applauded as did many around me. Great lad, good player and a frankly stupid decision to sell him. Loan him out if he wanted games, but why sell him.

How many times are you going to come up with that crap? How many times have you seen the answer but chose to ignore it? Jonjo wanted to play every game. It was never going to happen here, so he left reluctantly. Gerrard advised him to stay, but he didn't. Players are not slaves, you know, they have to think about their careers too.

Why can't you just take your hat off to Jonjo's goal - a masterpiece of a shot - and move on...

SquirrelandGman · « **Reply #371 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:48:36 am »

lets not make this about luis.

every manager get transfers wrong from time to time.

He was a good player for us..as brendan said "Jonjo..you got all the tools.."

Pricey · « **Reply #372 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:49:56 am »

Quote from: farawayred on February 24, 2014, 01:47:52 am

How many times are you going to come up with that crap? How many times have you seen the answer but chose to ignore it? Jonjo wanted to play every game. It was never going to happen here, so he left reluctantly. Gerrard advised him to stay, but he didn't. Players are not slaves, you know, they have to think about their careers too.

Why can't you just take your hat off to Jonjo's goal - a masterpiece of a shot - and move on...

Because if he wanted games we should have loaned him out, not sold him. Were we that desperate for 7 million quid?

I did take my hat off to his goal, i stood up and clapped at it while stood on the Kop, is that good enough?

I was pissed off when we sold him, and i'm pissed off i had to watch him smash the ball into the top corner for Swansea while his replacement watched the game on TV. It pissed me off.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #373 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:50:22 am »

Wasn't his biggest fan when he was here, but I'll tell you what, he certainly looks a player. Bundles of talent and great attitude.

farawayred · « **Reply #374 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:51:38 am »

Quote from: Pricey on February 24, 2014, 01:49:56 am

Because if he wanted games we should have loaned him out, not sold him. Were we that desperate for 7 million quid?

I did take my hat off to his goal, i stood up and clapped at it while stood on the Kop, is that good enough?

I was pissed off when we sold him, and i'm pissed off i had to watch him smash the ball into the top corner for Swansea while his replacement watched the game on TV. It pissed me off.

And did he want to go on loan?

Pople · « **Reply #375 on:** February 24, 2014, 02:00:08 am »

Quote from: Nessy76 on February 24, 2014, 01:37:50 am

And if he had celebrated, would you have respected him any less? It's bollocks. Oh, I can't hurt the feeling of the fans who used to like me in case they don't like me any more. If you want to not score against us in the first place, that might be helpful, but pretending you didn't want to score a goal, when that is all you are fucking good for in the first place...

Don't get me wrong, I like Jonjo, and he's not the only one who has picked up on this weird little trend, but it's not for me. Fair enough if the goal is going to send your childhood club down to the conference or something, but we're Liverpool FC, we can take it.

It's more upsetting that someone scores than that they celebrate it.
It's his job to entertain his own club's fans, not worry about hurting ours' feelings.

We'd get over it. Well, I'd hope we would. Because frankly, it's slightly insulting to suggest otherwise.

I get where you're coming from, especially with Shelvey, because we didn't bring him through, he was a Charlton product. In the case of someone like Joe Cole scoring against West Ham, who developed him and basically made him what he is, I can understand the player not celebrating. It's meant as a sign of respect, not rubbing it back in the face of a club who gave you your career in football.

Gifted Right Foot · « **Reply #376 on:** February 24, 2014, 02:34:43 am »

Brilliant goal and class response from Anfield. All the best to him. Wish he'd stop scoring against us though

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serpentnebula · « **Reply #377 on:** February 24, 2014, 02:57:16 am »

I never wanted him to leave. When you analyze how well he's done for Swansea and how poorly Alberto, his replacement, has done for us, it seems we made a mistake letting him go. Every club makes mistakes in the market; I think that might have been our biggest under BR. We've not made many though, and hopefully it stays that way.

Frizzo · « **Reply #378 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:06:57 am »

Quote from: serpentnebula on February 24, 2014, 02:57:16 am

I never wanted him to leave. When you analyze how well he's done for Swansea and how poorly Alberto, his replacement, has done for us, it seems we made a mistake letting him go. Every club makes mistakes in the market; I think that might have been our biggest under BR. We've not made many though, and hopefully it stays that way.

Why didn't anyone tell me the club decided to swap Shelvey for Alberto.

Here's me just thinking they were two seperate bits of business.

apocalypse · « **Reply #379 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:10:04 am »

fuck me! why do some feel the need to accompany some Shelvey praise with slating Alberto? Just always need to bitch and moan about something

Geppvindh's · « **Reply #380 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:14:19 am »

Anybody got a clue why he was subbed off at half time?

HeartAndSoul · « **Reply #381 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:17:36 am »

Quote from: Gerrvindh on February 24, 2014, 03:14:19 am

Anybody got a clue why he was subbed off at half time?

Apparently was feeling his hamstring a little bit. Was playing really well before he went off, luckily for us he didn't come back for the second half

soxfan · « **Reply #382 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:27:19 am »

Quote from: serpentnebula on February 24, 2014, 02:57:16 am

When you analyze how well he's done for Swansea and how poorly Alberto, his replacement, has done for us,

Alberto has not been poor. He's a young, very promising player who has had more ups than downs. Why the need to stick a knife in him when you say something positive about Jonjo?

swordfishtrombone · « **Reply #383 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:44:40 am »

Do we really need a thread on the main forum for a former Liverpool player? There doesn't seem to be much good coming from it.

Gojedo · « **Reply #384 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:48:51 am »

Played quite well, seeing as this thread has made it's way back on to the billboard. I'm guessing it'll settle along with the dust only to be resurrected when he plays us again. Nice goal. Hope he does well at Swansea.

WorriedForTheLads · « **Reply #385 on:** February 24, 2014, 03:51:24 am »

He was dominating Gerrard today.

Advil · « **Reply #386 on:** February 24, 2014, 04:10:51 am »

I sincerely hope we got a buy back clause inserted. When Gerrard hangs his boot, we buy him back. A gem of a player even if he looks like a serial murderer.

Arcadian · « **Reply #387 on:** February 24, 2014, 04:14:08 am »

Quote from: BUSHMILLS on February 24, 2014, 01:29:54 am

'Pity'? Where do you get that from?

He was a player who always tried his hardest for us, who appreciated the support the fans gave him when he was here, and who never wanted to leave.

His reluctance to celebrate, and the crowd's applause, was a show of mutual respect.

Fuck it mate, some just don't get it... I appreciate it though.

Severely · « **Reply #388 on:** February 24, 2014, 04:48:02 am »

Class display from Jonjo. I thought he would go on to be a player for us but he just never seemed composed, calm or intelligent enough to fit our style of play. Still not convinced he'll ever be that but he looked fantastic. Hope he pushes on and really makes a huge name for himself.

Cochise · « **Reply #389 on:** February 24, 2014, 04:52:10 am »

Him having a go at Taggart will always be his finest moment.

Advil · « **Reply #390 on:** February 24, 2014, 04:58:22 am »

Quote from: Cochise on February 24, 2014, 04:52:10 am

Him having a go at Taggart will always be his finest moment.

Taggart retired a few mths later. Might have been because of Shelvey.

RoshanA · « **Reply #391 on:** February 24, 2014, 05:05:41 am »

Quote from: Pricey on February 24, 2014, 01:42:30 am

Selling Shelvey and buying Luis Alberto. Apparently great business according to some on here.

Alberto apparently has a higher ceiling as a player. Where was Alberto btw? Didn't make the match squad because a youth player is better than him. Top bit of business that.

Had a little smile to myself when Shelvey scored and applauded as did many around me. Great lad, good player and a frankly stupid decision to sell him. Loan him out if he wanted games, but why sell him.

Agreed.

"21C or 70F?" SchizoidWeatherMan! · « **Reply #392 on:** February 24, 2014, 05:44:18 am »

Quote from: Nessy76 on February 24, 2014, 01:21:08 am

Why is it classy not to celebrate? It's bullshit. You're a footballer, you've scored a goal for the team that pays your wages, and the fans that have paid to watch you play, go fucking nuts.

It's not like we're battling relegation or something, we don't need pity from a lad who wasn't quite up to the grade for us.

What kind of twisted worldview do you have for fucks sake?

he was showing respect to the fans. The fans appreciated it. Thats all.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #393 on:** February 24, 2014, 05:48:16 am »

Loves raising his game against us.

lobsterboy · « **Reply #394 on:** February 24, 2014, 07:00:50 am »

He told ferguson to fuck off.
The lad deserves eternal respect from us all for that. That act alone was worth a place in the squad.

TarkaLFC · « **Reply #395 on:** February 24, 2014, 07:36:03 am »

In the games I've seen Shelvey has been playing a deep lying playmaker role for Swansea. Would he get in the LFC team in that position ahead of Gerrard - of course not.

It was only fair to let him leave and florish elsewhere. We arent Chelsea and shouldn't file decent players away in our reserves or on loan at Everton.

NorthamptonKopite · « **Reply #396 on:** February 24, 2014, 07:43:46 am »

Decent player and great goal, but I trust the manager and if he believes Luis Alberto will be a better player for our style than Jonjo then fair play, I think the managers decision will pay off.

Caston · « **Reply #397 on:** February 24, 2014, 08:40:54 am »

Swansea have built their whole side around him and Bony and you can see Shelvey has the lisence to pop up anywhere and all the play goes through him. If he stayed here he wouldn't have been allowed that luxury so selling him for a decent amount was fair enough, and it's good to see him get games and playing well, but let's not pretend he is world class and should have kept him

ThepepeReina · « **Reply #398 on:** February 24, 2014, 08:48:09 am »

Wouldnt get a game in our midfield even with a couple of injuries, as he was frustrating as hell. Always had strikes like that in his locker, wasn't enough for title contenders.

AB LFC · « **Reply #399 on:** February 24, 2014, 08:56:25 am »

He's noy very consistent at all, his tackling is very rash and positioning is out of sorts, if you've watched him this season. But that goal was brilliant, something Suarez would be proud of.