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I don't know how long this thread will stay alive but . . .

The saddest thing for me is how much different (and worse) Rafa looks these days than he did in those pictures. Sure, time passing affects us all but . . . dear me, has that man aged or what?

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RAFA BENITEZ, RAFA BENITEZ
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Hodgson sipping wine with bacon face after the game and scared to offend his good friend -> Rafa laying into the arl c*nt and telling some truths.

Enough said.

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I just think that Liverpool fc should never be int he position of hiring a man whso done fuck all in football. Rafa was hired because he had won 2 la ligas and a uefa cup in 3 years in a team that wasnt expected to win.

Hodgson has done fuck all.
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I don't know how long this thread will stay alive but . . .

The saddest thing for me is how much different (and worse) Rafa looks these days than he did in those pictures. Sure, time passing affects us all but . . . dear me, has that man aged or what?



Yeah, he looks like he has aged way more than just 5 years in his tenure with us.
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I love Rafa, but this has to stop, the forum is turning into shit.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 02:30:32 am »
'Mr. Ferguson' - Oh Rafa how I love thee.

Good one Rafael.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2010, 02:31:58 am »
I just think that Liverpool fc should never be int he position of hiring a man whso done fuck all in football. Rafa was hired because he had won 2 la ligas and a uefa cup in 3 years in a team that wasnt expected to win.

I can handle us not winning the title in 20 odd years but what I can't handle is the man at the helm has no chance of building anything that will even get us close.
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 02:33:29 am »
the difference is painfully, worryingly clear

under rafa we had a team who i really thought could do anything - under roy we have a team who don't look like they want to do anything

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 02:35:38 am »
I hope this gets in before it's locked, but anyone who can't see the difference's doesn't have a clue as far as I'm concerned.
Nevermind the differences in the two men's personalities, how they conduct themselves or what they feel for our club, city and people. A blind man on a fast horse can see that. The thing that makes me ill is how people use last season to villify Rafa and give credence to Roy.

The difference in the two men's footballing phillosphies are huge. We all know what we were capable of at our best under Rafa. But what we are seeing from Roy, is his best. Don't have a go at me for that. They are Roy's words, not mine. I don't need to lie or exagerate to show Roy's failings. He does that himself every time he opens his mouth or sends his team out.

Under him we have become a passive team. This is his MO. The one he has such faith in and is determind not to change. So this is what we bound to get while he's here... a team that defends far to deep, that falls back to regain shape each time it loses the ball, and "dispatches" the ball as swiftly as possible from the back if and when we regain it. In laymen's terms... hoofball.

In my 50 years of supporting Liverpool it is the worst football I have ever known. Yes. I know we've been crap, but never has it been our system to be crap. He has to go, before he instills this in the team and inflicts the type of damage we might never recover from.
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2010, 02:42:12 am »
I hope this gets in before it's locked, but anyone who can't see the difference's doesn't have a clue as far as I'm concerned.
Nevermind the differences in the two men's personalities, how they conduct themselves or what they feel for our club, city and people. A blind man on a fast horse can see that. The thing that makes me ill is how people use last season to villify Rafa and give credence to Roy.

The difference in the two men's footballing phillosphies are huge. We all know what we were capable of at our best under Rafa. But what we are seeing from Roy, is his best. Don't have a go at me for that. They are Roy's words, not mine. I don't need to lie or exagerate to show Roy's failings. He does that himself every time he opens his mouth or sends his team out.

Under him we have become a passive team. This is his MO. The one he has such faith in and is determind not to change. So this is what we bound to get while he's here... a team that defends far to deep, that falls back to regain shape each time it loses the ball, and "dispatches" the ball as swiftly as possible from the back if and when we regain it. In laymen's terms... hoofball.

In my 50 years of supporting Liverpool it is the worst football I have ever known. Yes. I know we've been crap, but never has it been our system to be crap. He has to go, before he instills this in the team and inflicts the type of damage we might never recover from.

Spot on mate. I love your posts, and also Andy@allterton. Becasue you 2 are the same as me, frustrated and passionate.

Roy has sucked all off my passion for football out of me. Even with hicks and gillet we still felt like we had one of us on the inside working for us in rafa. With roy, he couldnt be more different and further detatched frmo the fans if he tried.

I hope the game is called off tomorrow, because basicly i cant be arsed. If its not called off, i wont be going and my ticket will go to waste, because you cant even give them away these days.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2010, 02:44:03 am »
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2010, 02:44:35 am »
As a fan, the main difference that I can see between Rafa and Roy is...

Rafa has a goatee on his chin whereas Roy appears to have some form of scrotal tissue there.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2010, 02:45:19 am »
Fully agree with you FS on this "The thing that makes me ill is how people use last season to villify Rafa and give credence to Roy".

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2010, 02:48:31 am »
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2010, 02:49:12 am »
As a fan, the main difference that I can see between Rafa and Roy is...

Rafa has a goatee on his chin whereas Roy appears to have some form of scrotal tissue there.
When did you see that?
I've never seen his chin, he's always rubbing it
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2010, 02:49:44 am »
One obvious one is Torres......................His goal scoring rate was nearly a goal a game. Now this has gone down the drain. HE was breaking records at will. Now he is begging for the ball.


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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2010, 02:50:55 am »
Nothing to compare... it's like a Rolls vs Zastava (see picture below)...




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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2010, 02:52:56 am »
"There is no comparison between that which is lost by not succeeding and that lost by not trying.” -
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2010, 02:54:10 am »
The difference is one made us believe while the other does everything to try to stop us from believing to save his own skin. One had the pull of players that only afew in the world have while the other would rather buy crap from his previous clubs. One epitomises everything a liverpool manager should be while the other does the opposite and makes us weap.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2010, 02:56:41 am »
When did you see that?
I've never seen his chin, he's always rubbing it

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2010, 02:59:50 am »
We'll call this the suicide thead.


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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2010, 03:18:22 am »
The difference is one made us believe while the other does everything to try to stop us from believing to save his own skin. One had the pull of players that only afew in the world have while the other would rather buy crap from his previous clubs. One epitomises everything a liverpool manager should be while the other does the opposite and makes us weap.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2010, 03:22:29 am »
It's only ok to constantly bring up the 'Rafa vs Roy' argument if you're having a dig at Roy.
Would be even more fun if you could stand up to a hook to the jaw for being a snidey bastard. But then that's reality! No one needs to 'swim or drown' in a coward's paradise.

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2010, 03:25:57 am »
Not to mention the donation he made to the HJC after he left. Can't even imagine Roy doing anything like that. Class act, Rafa.
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2010, 03:29:41 am »
Rafa fitted into the community seemlessly, the stories we heard about him are heartwarming to say the least.

The one about the little girl on the beach out with her class, and over she goes to talk to some auld man. The teacher was non the happier, until the little girl said "its alright miss, its Rafa!" :D legend..
He has played footy with the boys in the primary school where his kids went.
who could forget his epic dancin on stage last year? memorable shit that was :)
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2010, 03:34:01 am »
It's only ok to constantly bring up the 'Rafa vs Roy' argument if you're having a dig at Roy.

erm no, but im sorry im not having people having a dig at a man who gave me the most amazing night of my life and a trip most peeople would only ever dream of without some sort of retaliation.
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2010, 03:34:51 am »
Roy Hodgson is Roy Hodgson. He has worked in the same fashion for a very long time and for us to get all up in arms about his employing passive, dull tactics is perhaps overlooking the real issue which is the fact that he was employed in the first place.
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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2010, 03:34:57 am »
Not to mention the donation he made to the HJC after he left. Can't even imagine Roy doing anything like that. Class act, Rafa.

Russell brand has more of a fucking affinity with liverpool fc than hodgson.
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2010, 03:37:24 am »
Rafa fitted into the community seemlessly, the stories we heard about him are heartwarming to say the least.

The one about the little girl on the beach out with her class, and over she goes to talk to some auld man. The teacher was non the happier, until the little girl said "its alright miss, its Rafa!" :D legend..
He has played footy with the boys in the primary school where his kids went.
who could forget his epic dancin on stage last year? memorable shit that was :)
He gave to the local charities, and firmly believed in their causes,
he firmly believed in us and our passion and beliefs.

One of us vs some journeyman who doesn't give a fuck about us and is only in it for himself.

I'll bet when he is finally canned the shit that comes out of his mouth will be nothing compared the pure class of the other in the regard he speaks of us (despite the despicable manner in which he was treated by those c*nts who owned and ran our club).
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2010, 05:19:54 am »
One of us vs some journeyman who doesn't give a fuck about us and is only in it for himself.


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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2010, 05:40:16 am »
Spot on mate. I love your posts, and also Andy@allterton. Becasue you 2 are the same as me, frustrated and passionate.

Roy has sucked all off my passion for football out of me. Even with hicks and gillet we still felt like we had one of us on the inside working for us in rafa. With roy, he couldnt be more different and further detatched frmo the fans if he tried.

I hope the game is called off tomorrow, because basicly i cant be arsed. If its not called off, i wont be going and my ticket will go to waste, because you cant even give them away these days.

Says it all really.

Spot on.
3 years ago I made an effort to watch every LFC game.
Now I just scan the scores, total lack of interest due to the dros that unfolds every game.
And its not just me, all of us down here in summer are disconected from the actual football.
We love LFC, we just see no point in watching the games anymore...

It HAS to change
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2010, 06:57:14 am »
Spot on.
3 years ago I made an effort to watch every LFC game.
Now I just scan the scores, total lack of interest due to the dros that unfolds every game.
And its not just me, all of us down here in summer are disconected from the actual football.
We love LFC, we just see no point in watching the games anymore...

It HAS to change
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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2010, 07:44:10 am »
I understand we're losing matches and playing shit, but if that's your attitude you can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2010, 08:32:17 am »
Love the difference being shown between the trophies.... Champions League, FA Cup, Community Shield, Super Cup > Barclays Award ...

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Re: Rafa Vs Roy - the differences that you as a fan can see with your own eyes.
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2010, 08:36:47 am »
I think on the pitch, it's more of players knowing more what they should be doing when they were under Rafa. Positioning (down to the last measurement) was pounded into their memory, and movement as a team was more unified.
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