Topic: Harry Maguire considering his options thread

[JRed]

Frenkie de Jong has informed Man Utd and Barcelona that he doesn't want to make the move 

https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/frenkie-jong-resiste-13960835

That is hilarious. It is so Everton, sorry, Man United. 

[lobsterboy]

We should bid for him, just for the giggles.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Frenkie de Jong has informed Man Utd and Barcelona that he doesn't want to make the move 

https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/frenkie-jong-resiste-13960835

[mbyx6cg2]

Frenkie de Jong has informed Man Utd and Barcelona that he doesn't want to make the move 

https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/frenkie-jong-resiste-13960835

Very funny if true. Reliable though?

[PeterTheRed ...]

We should bid for him, just for the giggles.

If he accepts a pay-cut, why not? He would be great on our team ...

[PeterTheRed ...]

Very funny if true. Reliable though?

Local Barcelona newspaper, so probably reliable on the issue ...

[BigCDump]

And Princess Leia strangles Jabba the Hut Utd with the same chain he was yanking her with. It's almost as though no one saw that coming...again. 

[MonsLibpool]

Very funny if true. Reliable though?

Yeah. It's basically their mouthpiece. They won't fabricate a story like this for a player they are desperate to move on.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Can't believe clubs still try to buy players without actually finding out if said player wants the move first.

[thaddeus]

Can't believe clubs still try to buy players without actually finding out if said player wants the move first.

He used to play under ten Hag and they're Man U.  Why would they bother to find out what every Man U fan already knows - he'd walk over hot coals to play for them!

That he's playing for one of the biggest (and worst run, admittedly) sides in the world and is effectively guaranteed Champions League football every season is just an inconvenience.  Playing Europa League football alongside Fred and McTominay is exactly how every elite player wants to spend their peak seasons.

I'm in two minds on it, I wouldn't mind seeing Man U spend the bulk of their transfer budget on a player that won't fit them particularly well but I'm also intrigued to see who they end up chasing next if he turns them down.

[Dim Glas]

 He’s still going to end up signing for Man Utd.

[RyanBabel19]

Can't believe clubs still try to buy players without actually finding out if said player wants the move first.

The club is Manchester United…. Still cant believe it?

[Mozology]

He’s still going to end up signing for Man Utd.

Agreed, and the media will claim him the best in the world, as they do with every Utd signing

[RedForeverTT]

He’s still going to end up signing for Man Utd.

But you would have an unhappy player on your hands. An Angel Di Maria all over again.

You wouldn’t hire an employee that doesn’t want to work for you so I don’t get why they cast aside those concerns.

[Ghost Town]

Can't believe clubs still try to buy players without actually finding out if said player wants the move first.

I'm sure most clubs don't. But Man Utd aren't noted for their self-awareness or acceptance of state.

They don't sing "Vainglory, Vainglory Man Utd" for nothing. Those are the words, right?

There's another, London, club with similar delusions of grandeur who also sing that 'Glory, glory...' song

It's all in the conceit

[ScouserAtHeart]

He’s still going to end up signing for Man Utd.

Why want a player who doesn;t want to play for you

[Son of Spion]

What a strange club they are. Going all in for a player who absolutely doesn't want to play for them.

I thought this new dawn was all about bringing in hungry players who'd die for the shirt?

It smacks of the Blueshite, when they kept upping the salary to Ancelotti until he accepted, despite having no actual interest in the job or the club. He also bailed out at the first opportunity.

It's all so embarrassingly desperate.

[Mozology]

If this falls through it'll be fucking hilarious, would throw their whole transfer plans into chaos.

Would destroy their fanbase psychologically as well.

They'd go into the new season under a dark cloud, honestly could see them finish in the bottom half of the table.

[Dim Glas]

But you would have an unhappy player on your hands. An Angel Di Maria all over again.

You wouldn’t hire an employee that doesn’t want to work for you so I don’t get why they cast aside those concerns.

He’s ten Hag’s choice, its the player he wants (and knows), I presume he believes that once he’s at the club and becomes part of his plan, he’ll be absolutely fine and will embrace the roll.

Just how I presume it is. This ‘deal’ has been in the works, and worked on - with his agent for a long time. Why would he and his agent bother if there wasn’t a conclusion to it that saw him end up at Man Utdf. Sure he may want to stay at Barca, but being pragmatic, he knows that isn’t going to work.

[A-Bomb]

They need a centre back, 2 midfielders in a 6 and 8 capacity.... 2 solid full backs who can offer something going forwards and right forward and a striker.

They also need a goalkeeper who can command his box.

They need a complete overhaul, players of similar enough ages (22-25) who can grow together over 3-4 transfer windows into a competitive outfit.

To do that they will require a comprehensive scouting department and recruitment team as their resources are limited and their hit rate needs to be nailed on 8 times out of 10 if they are to get it 'right'

They also require a coaching philosophy that can compete at the top end (manager and coaching staff)

There is A LOT of work to be done on the footballing side of their club to become competitive - and it will take 3-5 years to start to take shape assuming the above decisions and people are correct.

[PeterTheRed ...]

He’s still going to end up signing for Man Utd.

Possible, if they offer him £500,000 per week ...

[Ghost Town]

I presume he believes that once he’s at the club and becomes part of his plan, he’ll be absolutely fine and will embrace the roll.

Not if Shaw gets there first

[amir87]

I await the Aaron Lennon to Everton kind of photos when De Jong is holding that filthy shirt.

[Son of Spion]

He’s ten Hag’s choice, its the player he wants (and knows), I presume he believes that once he’s at the club and becomes part of his plan, he’ll be absolutely fine and will embrace the roll...

"Look, we got on ok in school, didn't we. Ok, I know you don't fancy me and you find your current partner far more attractive, but if you leave him for me you might learn to love me eventually. Go on, give it a try. I'll make it worth your while financially. You'll fancy me in the end. Honestly, you will."

[Drinks Sangria]

I await the Aaron Lennon to Everton kind of photos when De Jong is holding that filthy shirt.

I think that he'll end up at Utd, but I do believe there's some truth to what's coming out of Spain. maybe he backs himself to play well enough to dissuade Barcelona's intentions and change their mind.

Ultimately there's nothing to stop the player and his agent feeling out Utd, what they're offering, what the project is. But if the player isn't going, he's not going. He has a contract until 2026 with Barcelona, so they either pay him a massive amount or let him stay.

[MonsLibpool]

They need a centre back, 2 midfielders in a 6 and 8 capacity.... 2 solid full backs who can offer something going forwards and right forward and a striker.

They also need a goalkeeper who can command his box.

They need a complete overhaul, players of similar enough ages (22-25) who can grow together over 3-4 transfer windows into a competitive outfit.

To do that they will require a comprehensive scouting department and recruitment team as their resources are limited and their hit rate needs to be nailed on 8 times out of 10 if they are to get it 'right'

They also require a coaching philosophy that can compete at the top end (manager and coaching staff)

There is A LOT of work to be done on the footballing side of their club to become competitive - and it will take 3-5 years to start to take shape assuming the above decisions and people are correct.

They need a new team.

[Tesco tearaway]

Not if Shaw gets there first

If Tyrell goes there the first thing he'll say to Shaw is "Time to diet."

[SamLad]

Love how it was being reported yesterday that a deal had been agreed but there was still some significant issues to resolve or something similar...namely the player really doesn’t want to go there!

Why wouldn’t United take the hint and move on? Even if he ends up there you’re going to have a miserable player on your hands. It can’t end well.

of course it can!

oh - you mean for them?  ok .... 

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

He’s still going to end up signing for Man Utd.

Yep. They will keep throwing money at him until they convince him on their "project".

[ToneLa]

I wanna ask people if they'd support a club owned by ISIS

"Don't be stupid. That's a murderous evil gang, course I wouldn't".

Welllll......

[idontknow]

So much compassion and empathy in here, that's why I enjoy this thread so much, those are the qualities a true historian brings 'to the mantelpiece', you do not judge the past, you try to understand it in its own context, and you never laugh uproariously at the piteous wretches trying to cling to the obsolete hope that one day one day one day it might ...
But no, even writing that I have had to wipe tears away.
What an admirable thread, this is RAWK at its best demonstrating a duty of care for the unsaveable.

[Nobby Reserve]

I wanna ask people if they'd support a club owned by ISIS

"Don't be stupid. That's a murderous evil gang, course I wouldn't".

Welllll......

They'd probably 'do a Westwood' and whine some evasive bollocks about it being a hypothetical question.

[Son of Spion]

If Tyrell goes there the first thing he'll say to Shaw is "Time to diet."

This deserved more recognition. 

[Father Ted]

A legal team representing Cristiano Ronaldo has asked a US judge to order the lawyer of a woman who accused the footballer of rape to pay him more than $626,000 (£516k), after a rape allegation lawsuit against him was dismissed.

That loveable rogue.

[Fortneef]

They need a centre back, 2 midfielders in a 6 and 8 capacity.... 2 solid full backs who can offer something going forwards and right forward and a striker.

They also need a goalkeeper who can command his box.

They need a complete overhaul, players of similar enough ages (22-25) who can grow together over 3-4 transfer windows into a competitive outfit.

To do that they will require a comprehensive scouting department and recruitment team as their resources are limited and their hit rate needs to be nailed on 8 times out of 10 if they are to get it 'right'

They also require a coaching philosophy that can compete at the top end (manager and coaching staff)

There is A LOT of work to be done on the footballing side of their club to become competitive - and it will take 3-5 years to start to take shape assuming the above decisions and people are correct.

Lol  Half the Premier League could get to 3rd/4th with six top signings.

[Goalposts for Jumpers]

That loveable rogue.

Hmmm, if I was a high-profile person who had some random punter accuse me of rape and drag my name through the mud for X many years, and I was completely innocent, I would want some form of revenge. I think its fair to say only Ronaldo and the accuser know for certain whether he is innocent or not....

[Peabee]

Hmmm, if I was a high-profile person who had some random punter accuse me of rape and drag my name through the mud for X many years, and I was completely innocent, I would want some form of revenge. I think its fair to say only Ronaldo and the accuser know for certain whether he is innocent or not....

He paid her to keep silent. If he was innocent, why didn’t he go to court to clear his name. I would, wouldn’t you?

He’s on record saying she said “stop”.

[HomesickRed]

Still not signed de Jong yet? I thought the press bigged-up Thursday as the big day?

Frankie Say No?

For definite?

[Dave McCoy]

Hmmm, if I was a high-profile person who had some random punter accuse me of rape and drag my name through the mud for X many years, and I was completely innocent, I would want some form of revenge. I think its fair to say only Ronaldo and the accuser know for certain whether he is innocent or not....

Yeah, this is just completely wrong.

The lawyer probably does deserve some form of punishment but it's not for anything along the likes of what you are saying.

[Magz50]

This lot having a full meltdown with us resigning Salah. Absolutely hilarious!