Topic: The Traitors

[Elzar]

Anyone watched this? New game show on BBC, all based around 3 people that have to try go undetected throughout the whole thing to try win the money.

It’s all very dramatic, and seems like they have gone for it budget wise.

Seen one episode so far and I have no idea why they are competing against each other in games etc though and how they would manage to guess who is a traitor.

[Lycan]

Saw a load of excitable weirdos jumping around in some room and hugging each other. Had no idea what was going on and decided to change the channel very quickly.

[Terry de Niro]

Saw a load of excitable weirdos jumping around in some room and hugging each other. Had no idea what was going on and decided to change the channel very quickly.

You were watching something on pornhub?

[Sangria]

Anyone watched this? New game show on BBC, all based around 3 people that have to try go undetected throughout the whole thing to try win the money.

It’s all very dramatic, and seems like they have gone for it budget wise.

Seen one episode so far and I have no idea why they are competing against each other in games etc though and how they would manage to guess who is a traitor.

Sounds like Mafia/Werewolf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)

[Timbo's Goals]

Best telly viewing since Breaking Bad.

Unmissable

[Elzar]

Best telly viewing since Breaking Bad.

Unmissable

A few format issues I feel if they wanted to do another series, but it's put together well and I have been keeping up to date by skipping through a lot of the boring bits.

No chance the faithful lot are coming away with money!

[oojason]

Really enjoyed it (not usually a fan of reality of TV), yet this is something different, fun, compelling - and obviously the tension is ramping up in this final week.

Only 12 episodes in total so quite easy to get into - and so doesn't drag like some other reality shows. Claudia Winkleman has been a pretty good host too - and seem invested in the both the show and the people - which helps a lot).

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Wilf has played a blinder so far - though may have got rid of Amanda a day or so too early (the snake!, though well played) - and now has some trust issues with Kieron going into the Final...

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I really hope they so a reunion show on this series - be interesting to see how people react to each other...

[Elzar]

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Wilf has played a blinder so far - though may have got rid of Amanda a day or so too early (the snake!, though well played) - and now has some trust issues with Kieron going into the Final...

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I don't think he wanted to, he wanted to just plant seeds so she would be voted out later but it went a big wrong. Kieron will be his downfall now, I reckon only one of them makes it to the end.

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[Timbo's Goals]

Really enjoyed it (not usually a fan of reality of TV), yet this is something different, fun, compelling - and obviously the tension is ramping up in this final week.

Only 12 episodes in total so quite easy to get into - and so doesn't drag like some other reality shows. Claudia Winkleman has been a pretty good host too - and seem invested in the both the show and the people - which helps a lot).

Spoiler

Wilf has played a blinder so far - though may have got rid of Amanda a day or so too early (the snake!, though well played) - and now has some trust issues with Kieron going into the Final...

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I really hope they so a reunion show on this series - be interesting to see how people react to each other...

I can't stop giggling when it's on. Fantastic to watch with the missus and daughter and grandkids and watching them reacting to the utter stupidity of so many of the faithful contestants as they continue to make the most insane presumptions about how they are perceived by the others and especially how they perceive their fellow contestants.

A truly genius programme concept. BBC have surely tapped into a ratings goldmine with this. That there will be many ensuing series is clearly guaranteed and the show can only improve [if that's actually possible] as the intricacies of what's needed to progress and the sussing techniques of the contestants become more refined.

 

[Buck Pete]

At the Emptihad tonight so going to have to do some serious spoiler avoidance before I can watch the final episode tomorrow night.

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The faithful's seriously believe there is only 1 traitor left amongst them.  So surely whoever goes out first of Wilf and Kieron will essentially hand the cash to the other guy.

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[Elmo!]

The most stupid thing is the way they all act as if the traitors chose to be traitors. They say "it can't be X, they would never do it". It was out of their hands who was a traitor and the only other option would be to immediately come clean and leave the show. And every single one of them chose to join the show so of course every single one of them would do it if chosen.

[Elzar]

I can't stop giggling when it's on. Fantastic to watch with the missus and daughter and grandkids and watching them reacting to the utter stupidity of so many of the faithful contestants as they continue to make the most insane presumptions about how they are perceived by the others and especially how they perceive their fellow contestants.

A truly genius programme concept. BBC have surely tapped into a ratings goldmine with this. That there will be many ensuing series is clearly guaranteed and the show can only improve [if that's actually possible] as the intricacies of what's needed to progress and the sussing techniques of the contestants become more refined.

 

I believe it was a show in Australia first, who in turn copied the concept from a slightly similar one in the Netherlands.

The most stupid thing is the way they all act as if the traitors chose to be traitors. They say "it can't be X, they would never do it". It was out of their hands who was a traitor and the only other option would be to immediately come clean and leave the show. And every single one of them chose to join the show so of course every single one of them would do it if chosen.

I always think this, but for me this is one of the reasons I think it is hard to know who is a traitor. Unless someone has incredibly fake reactions surely it's easy to not give away you're a traitor?!

Also think series 2 will need changing as they won't be able to do the breakfast reveal, as it would guarantee the last in is a faithful.

[Buck Pete]

Yeah there are many annoyances about the show and things that look contrived.  Its heavily edited too

But its still good fun telly

This is where the BBC researchers earn their corn. Weeding out the emotional idiots from the intelligent ruthless bastards who applied to be on the show, before assigning them their roles.

[swoopy]

At the Emptihad tonight so going to have to do some serious spoiler avoidance before I can watch the final episode tomorrow night.

Spoiler

The faithful's seriously believe there is only 1 traitor left amongst them.  So surely whoever goes out first of Wilf and Kieron will essentially hand the cash to the other guy.

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Same ! Can't believe the BBC have scheduled it on the same night at the reds are playing again. Really want to avoid who wins until tomorrow night. I have a suspicion on which way I think it's going to go though.

[Schmarn]

I assumed it would be shite but have really enjoyed it. The key to its success is that they have just selected normal people rather than Z list morons, influencers and people who have an agent. There's nothing more compelling than watching the behaviour of normal folk. The formula is simple too and it's only 3 times a week so it's not a ridiculous time commitment.

For the second series they'll have the issue that everyone knows the game. They will also be inundated by talentless f*cks looking to forge a career.

[Barefoot Doctor]

It's great. Genuinely fascinating insight into the herd mentality aswell. Last night's episode was a case in point -

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They all went into the roundtable with either Wilf or Aaron as the person they were voting for, and all were convinced the remaining traitor was a male. Five minutes of arguing later, and Maddy and Meryl were the only two to get any votes!

Can't wait for Hannah to find out Wilf is a traitor. I've been laughing throughout at how absolutely certain everyone is about their personal theories, even though they've regularly been disproved. And she's so, so certain that he's a faithful, for no reason other than he looked upset when he almost got voted off?

Reckon Wilf manages to win, but if someone can convince Hannah that he's the traitor then it could be curtains as the others will turn on him.

So yeah, have loved it. Although I switch off completely during the challenges, just not interesting enough.

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[AndyMuller]

Can you enjoy this even if you can’t stand Winkleman?

[Schmarn]

Can you enjoy this even if you can’t stand Winkleman?

She's fairly peripheral to the action, more of a facilitator than a presenter.

Just don't be expecting a Kantian introspection of the human psyche!

[oojason]

Can you enjoy this even if you can’t stand Winkleman?

I am so far mate (am not usually a fan of hers)

Spoiler

I don't think he wanted to, he wanted to just plant seeds so she would be voted out later but it went a big wrong. Kieron will be his downfall now, I reckon only one of them makes it to the end.

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Spoiler

Absolutely, that seeding definitely got away from him   And yet I still want him to win!

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Edit: the BBC iPlayer link for the final episode - www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001gdgd/the-traitors-series-1-episode-12

[Chris~]

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feel like they'd need to close that kind of loophole for a second season. Also felt like the only way to win as the faithful was to be bad at the game and hope the traitors backstabbed, which is an odd watch.

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[Elzar]

Spoiler

feel like they'd need to close that kind of loophole for a second season. Also felt like the only way to win as the faithful was to be bad at the game and hope the traitors backstabbed, which is an odd watch.

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Spoiler

Imagine if the first traitor to go out basically just gives in the other 2 early in the series. It would be a shitshow. Ruined the end a bit for me. 

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[liverbloke]

tried to watch it but it just seemed like a lot of people talking and nothing really happening except for some lame tasks

got bored after 2 episodes - maybe i should've stuck with it

[Elzar]

tried to watch it but it just seemed like a lot of people talking and nothing really happening except for some lame tasks

got bored after 2 episodes - maybe i should've stuck with it

Watch it on iplayer and skip through the long annoying bits.

[liverbloke]

Watch it on iplayer and skip through the long annoying bits.

i'll give it another chance after christmas then 

i've avoided all the spoilers so far

[Andy82lfc]

Like with a lot of reality shows like this you just have to leave your cynicism and dislike for some of these productions by the door then enjoy it.

Was honestly probably one of the best shows I’ve seen. Don’t often say it but think it being on the BBC helped massively also with them balancing out some of the over dramatic or over produced, cheesy bollocks some other channels would have maybe done.

I really hope they do a reunion show it would be great to see. Won’t drop any spoilers but what an end too. Absolutely delivered the climax brilliantly.

[Sangria]

Has anyone played Mafia? Not the video game, but the party game this is based on.

[UntouchableLuis]

I binged this over the last 5 days or so. First 2 episodes I was on the fence but was quickly hooked after that.

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the ending left a sour taste as up until that point it was purely sportsmanship. If you get eliminated as a traitor you shouldn't be able to then effectively tell others who the other traitors are. I think they could solve this by having the nominated person at the table stand out of sight so they can't give anyone a dodgy look (I.e. the look Keiran gave Hannah to say Will is a traitor). I also think they should only be able to say the name they've written and that's it. They can give their reasons in an open discussion once the round table concludes. The comment from Leoran 'parting gift' was another way to cheat effectively - it could only mean Will was a traitor.

I do think Will lost his composure after that. If he had laughed it off and said Keiran blamed him as they were going to vote for someone else he might have got away with it.

I do think if there's more one traitor you're probably best sticking together until the end to share the money. If the rules are the same as this series I can't ever see a traitor going all the way as there'll always be a bitter traitor that openly reveals the other is a traitor to 'save' the rest of the group.

I actually wanted Will to win. He played a blinder.

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[Buck Pete]

Watched the final last night

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Can't decide how I feel about the end.

Bit out of order and a severe case of sour grapes that Kieron basically outed Will at the round table, purely because Will played the game better than him.

But on the other hand, Will "Lived by the sword, so died by the sword".   All Wilf had to do was work with Kieron and get rid of one more faithful, then they were pretty much home and hosed for 50k each.

So Meryl bags 33k for basically doing and saying absolutely nothing.

Any Traitors in series 2 will definitely think twice about going against fellow traitors after Kieron's antics.

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[KillieRed]

Has anyone played Mafia? Not the video game, but the party game this is based on.

My kids have played it. Similar to the video game Among Us too?

[KevLFC]

Watched the final last night

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Can't decide how I feel about the end.

Bit out of order and a severe case of sour grapes that Kieron basically outed Will at the round table, purely because Will played the game better than him.

But on the other hand, Will "Lived by the sword, so died by the sword".   All Wilf had to do was work with Kieron and get rid of one more faithful, then they were pretty much home and hosed for 50k each.

So Meryl bags 33k for basically doing and saying absolutely nothing.

Any Traitors in series 2 will definitely think twice about going against fellow traitors after Kieron's antics.

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Spoiler

The thing is that Will was really screwed going into the final. Hannah really thought Kieran was a traitor and Meryl went along with that. The only person Will could had really voted for was Aaron without looking like a traitor. Will should had picked Meryl for traitor role. She played the perfect game in a strange way. Wonder what would had happened if votes were equal at any point

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[UntouchableLuis]

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The thing is that Will was really screwed going into the final. Hannah really thought Kieran was a traitor and Meryl went along with that. The only person Will could had really voted for was Aaron without looking like a traitor. Will should had picked Meryl for traitor role. She played the perfect game in a strange way. Wonder what would had happened if votes were equal at any point

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I wondered that too about the votes.

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I'm guessing in the event of a tie they both have to convince again they're a faithful and then they all must choose one from that? I don't imagine they'd want to get rid of more than 1 but who knows.

I genuinely thought Meryl was going to vote Aaron right at the end to make it 2-2 round the fire as I thought she didn't think Will was a traitor.

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[PeterJM]

I'm only upto episode 7 but i'm rooting for Fay after spotting the tattoo on her wrist.

[Wabaloolah]

I'm only upto episode 7 but i'm routing for Fay after spotting the tattoo on her wrist.

yes saw that myself, classy lady

[Wabaloolah]

Spoiler

Wilf screwed up, should have stuck with Keiran and bagged £50k each, they could easily have manipulated Meryl into.voting for Aaron to make it 2-2, they could even have convinced Meryl to vote off Hannah, then get rid of Meryl and split it.


He got a bit greedy as he thought they would all vote to end the game when they banished Keiran.


I was rooting for the traitors all the way until Wilf knifed Amanda but it was her fault really as turning on Theo immediately after voting him the most faithful one was daft

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[timbucktoo]

Hooked! Some of the most tense, enjoyable andoriginal tv ive seen in years!

[Scottish-Don]

I believe it was a show in Australia first, who in turn copied the concept from a slightly similar one in the Netherlands.

It's on Netflix, called The Mole. Really good watch and a bit edgier than the Traitor.

[Trada]

Hopefully the next series will have a follow up show after each episode to chat to the people who left etc.

I think the BBC were take by surprise by how successful it was and I think the next one will build on series 1.

I really enjoyed the Aussie one and all episodes of the USA Celebrity version drops on January 12th will give that a watch as well.

[Trada]

The BBC have the rights to the US version and the whole series drops on Iplayer tomorrow.

[Wabaloolah]

The BBC have the rights to the US version and the whole series drops on Iplayer tomorrow.

great news, thanks for that, something to binge watch over the weekend!

[Schmarn]

great news, thanks for that, something to binge watch over the weekend!

That’ll do pig.