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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5920 on: October 3, 2010, 10:57:38 pm »
Always loved him since what he said about us at the world cup.Top Man.

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Please let's not start that again. ;D
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5921 on: October 3, 2010, 10:57:47 pm »
Nice view of Citys tactics there..I wish we could see Roys..

                                     
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« Reply #5922 on: October 3, 2010, 10:59:42 pm »
@JayMcKenna87: MOTD 2 saying 2k at march is not true. Police estimate 6-7k  (Twitter).

Thanks a fucking bunch Jocky and Murray.
If that's the official police estimate it's very poor reporting from the BBC. Police estimate is always quoted, often with one from the organisers themselves because police estimates of any demo are notorious for being ridiculously low. If the police say 6-7k there was almost certainly a lot more.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5923 on: October 3, 2010, 11:01:09 pm »
Yeah, Lawro's 'flat back 8' in his uniquely annoying nasal whine still sounds like a drill being forced into my brain. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that Hansen had a few rounds of golf with Hodgson. Probably disliked Rafa because the damn Spaniard kept pointing out faults in his swing before pinging another drive onto the green.

Honestly shocked and they couldn't muster that Roy got it wrong this day let alone every other game. They probably don't want to harm his England chances I guess.

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5924 on: October 3, 2010, 11:02:02 pm »
Not just me shaking my head in disbelief then.
Alan Hansen is fast becoming as deplorable as Lawrenson.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5925 on: October 3, 2010, 11:02:36 pm »
Honestly shocked and they couldn't muster that Roy got it wrong this day let alone every other game. They probably don't want to harm his England chances I guess.

PT kinda nailed it.

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5926 on: October 3, 2010, 11:04:07 pm »
PT kinda nailed it.

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I feel sorry for Roy to a degree, but sick of the way that he's absolved of absolutely everything. The man is made of Teflon.

:D I don't feel sorry for Roy as he knew what he was coming into and he felt he could handle it.

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5927 on: October 3, 2010, 11:04:20 pm »
Alan Hansen is fast becoming as deplorable as Lawrenson.
They are all staying 'on message', they have no choice now after their hatchet jobs.
I loved him as a player but sadly Hansen is becoming as relevant as Jimmy Hill.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5928 on: October 3, 2010, 11:04:32 pm »
Hansen, what a cop out

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5929 on: October 3, 2010, 11:07:11 pm »
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5930 on: October 3, 2010, 11:08:51 pm »
They are all staying 'on message', they have no choice now after their hatchet jobs.
I loved him as a player but sadly Hansen is becoming as relevant as Jimmy Hill.
My sentiments exactly. Although Jimmy Hill had more respect for us (fans) when he was on MOTD. He also did a lot more for the game as well.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5931 on: October 3, 2010, 11:08:55 pm »
car crash tv this. why pander to this sycophantic c*nt?

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5932 on: October 3, 2010, 11:09:37 pm »
Honestly shocked and they couldn't muster that Roy got it wrong this day let alone every other game. They probably don't want to harm his England chances I guess.
Alan Hansen is fast becoming as deplorable as Lawrenson.
Honestly, they're people with big egos in a closed shop world surrounded like sycophants who come to believe that their own dick smeg is imbued with a special wisdom and authority, they aren't going to turn on Roy on the BBC or in the broadsheets, not having laid down their 'authoritative opinion' or whatever they describe the turds that come out of their collective mouths as on the TV guides.

The tabloids are disgusting - but they aren't worried by their own hypocricy, and will turn on Roy when they feel it will sell papers - it'll be an interesting contrast between the red tops and 'quality' press tomorrow, I should think, when under Rafa the content was nigh on indistinguishable.

I've come to expect that sort of toss but it does still honestly disappoint me that Hansen can't seem to bring himself to make any kind of meanginful criticism of the owners, especially considering the closeness of refancing, even more after a performance like that, yet more so since he's keen to defend the manager he assured us all would improve things, and just as a cherry on top they actually gave coverage to the protests for once. It's not like it could even be seen as 'biased' or whatever for him to give his opinion in that kind of context.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5933 on: October 3, 2010, 11:10:56 pm »
David Gold is THAT GUY that no one wants around and bothers people when he talks to them.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5934 on: October 3, 2010, 11:11:41 pm »
David Gold is THAT GUY that no one wants around and bothers people when he talks to them.

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5935 on: October 3, 2010, 11:12:04 pm »
Hanesn's a bell.

Mad me laugh how it has nothing to do with the manager and then go on to highlight our basic tactical deficiencies.

'Bout as clueless as Hodgson.


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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5936 on: October 3, 2010, 11:12:59 pm »
I don't get it. Thompson is employed by Sky, and says what he wants about the owners, and says it damn passionately, from the heart if you will. He sees that he's not employed by the club, has no real contacts there who'll blacklist him for speaking the truth. Yet Hansen sits there silent about the owners, almost as though hoping the conversation moves on before he gets asked something for which the answer might get him a slap on the wrist. But why? Who or what is stopping him from emulating Thommo? Yes, Thommo gets a few smirks from the panel and watchers. But fuck them. They don't matter a single jot. If a person in the limelight can inform one, just one person of the situation, they've done good by our club. But no, Hansen and Lawro and all the rest of them just sit there in smirking silence. Wankers.

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5937 on: October 3, 2010, 11:13:08 pm »
David Gold is THAT GUY that no one wants around and bothers people when he talks to them.
Especially not their kids, because he keeps on trying to sell them porn.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5938 on: October 3, 2010, 11:13:40 pm »
Hanesn's a bell.

Mad me laugh how it has nothing to do with the manager and then go on to highlight our basic tactical deficiencies.

'Bout as clueless as Hodgson.




He meant the players have got to step up to the plate. Which is exactly true

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5939 on: October 3, 2010, 11:15:56 pm »
City got appaling biased decisions today from that wanker Atkinson.

Ref won it for them. Their pen was never a pen and Newcastles was nailed on
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5940 on: October 3, 2010, 11:21:18 pm »
;D
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5941 on: October 3, 2010, 11:21:28 pm »
the Wayne Rooney comment there. classic!!
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« Reply #5942 on: October 3, 2010, 11:24:06 pm »
That Van Der Vaart/Rooney comment had me rolling. :lmao

Can't believe Colin actually said that.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5943 on: October 3, 2010, 11:26:22 pm »
What he say?
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5944 on: October 3, 2010, 11:28:14 pm »
What he say?

Showed a clip of Van der Vaart celebrating his goal, running over to a pair of grannies and hugging/kissing one of them with Colin Murray saying "Van der Vaart does a vintage Rooney celebration there" over it.
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5945 on: October 3, 2010, 11:34:04 pm »
why show footage of the march but not the sit in and then go on to laud the blackpool fans who sang at the end of the game when we did too! why dont SOS or someone write to the programme and get them to do a feature on what the protests are all about
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« Reply #5946 on: October 3, 2010, 11:36:52 pm »
I don't get it. Thompson is employed by Sky, and says what he wants about the owners, and says it damn passionately, from the heart if you will. He sees that he's not employed by the club, has no real contacts there who'll blacklist him for speaking the truth. Yet Hansen sits there silent about the owners, almost as though hoping the conversation moves on before he gets asked something for which the answer might get him a slap on the wrist. But why? Who or what is stopping him from emulating Thommo? Yes, Thommo gets a few smirks from the panel and watchers. But fuck them. They don't matter a single jot. If a person in the limelight can inform one, just one person of the situation, they've done good by our club. But no, Hansen and Lawro and all the rest of them just sit there in smirking silence. Wankers.

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« Reply #5947 on: October 3, 2010, 11:41:38 pm »
Not bothered to watch it this week. No wine tasting?

Ive defended Colin Murray and MOTD2 a fair bit on here. But feeling very disappointed with them if they havn't shown anything of the sit in. They seem worse than sky at times.
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« Reply #5948 on: October 3, 2010, 11:44:43 pm »
Class free kick from Alex, great goal.

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« Reply #5949 on: October 3, 2010, 11:56:28 pm »
It's Thommo's club! Liverpool Football Club has been his life! Hansen's an ex-player, his bond with the club is different.

After all the years he was here, everything he won here, I just hoped that he'd feel passionately enough about us to give a bit of airtime to the reasons for the protests...

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« Reply #5950 on: October 4, 2010, 02:44:57 am »
"They are all staying 'on message', they have no choice now after their hatchet jobs.
.................".

Who is Hansen (& Lawro) trying to protect?

Thommo isn't afraid of telling it like it is, so why are the others frightened of telling the truth? They hide from it, ignore it, give false leads, lie. - In a way its like listening to the story about the Emperor's New Clothes - they won't be critical of the present regime.

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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5951 on: October 4, 2010, 01:55:28 pm »
Who is Hansen (& Lawro) trying to protect?

They're protecting themselves.

Sure, sometimes you think to yourself that the consistent failure of these people to understand even the simplest of events is solely down to them not even having enough braincells to form a five-a-side pub team. And most of the time you'd be right. In this case, however, nobody's going to tell me that Hansen isn't aware of what's going on at Liverpool. You don't need to have been captain of the club for the best part of a decade to have a basic grasp of that. Hansen and many more of our former players, the ones you might expect to be following Thommo's example and actually doing something positive for their former employers by speaking out and telling the truth, have been eerily silent and, in many cases, have actually been spreading misinformation. Hansen's "forget the manager, forget the owners" comment last night is a prime example.

To me, it's just another case of going with the flow, sticking to an agenda that might not be theirs but damned if they're going to deviate too much from it. After all, what's in it for them to rock the boat? Nothing. These people are comfortable, way too comfortable to be sticking their heads above the parapet and making a stand for the club they supposedly love. In my view, it’s also one of the main reasons that their logic regarding Rafa always seemed so skewed and distorted (not to mention nonsensical). The general flow of opinion was only ever going one way, why go against the grain? I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the only ex-players I heard defending Rafa last season (John Barnes and Peter Beardsley) are not professional pundits, and therefore, have no agenda to stick to. I don’t know what they’re doing with themselves these days, but I rarely see or hear either of them talk about the game. A lot of our ex-players, on the other hand, make a comfortable living off television, radio and newspapers, and feel no responsibility (or affection) for this club anymore, at least not as much as they do for their pay cheques. That’s the reality.

I don't want to bring this back to Rafa too much, believe it or not I'm doing my best to forget him out of pure necessity. But look at the evidence. Even last season, his worst at the club, many of our ex-players sought to ignore the real causes for concern (yes, for once they actually had some real reasons to criticise him) and instead continued to twist facts and outright lie. Remember Ronnie Whelan stating on RTE that the Liverpool side which beat Debrecen 1-0 at Anfield cost £250m? But once again, Hansen was the best example of logic being butchered and the truth twisted to suit an agenda. In an article published on 19th October 2009, Hansen said the following: "Benítez has struggled in the £3-10m region...Benítez hasn't done well with anybody in that price region...over a length of time, you need four or five players in the £3-10m bracket to become great buys, but I don't see any at Liverpool."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/6366147/Alan-Hansen-Liverpool-cannot-afford-to-lose-this-week.html

This is not the place to argue his point, merely to state what Hansen said. By 4th June 2010, in the immediate aftermath of Rafa's exit, Hansen had altered his position...er, somewhat. "Benítez has had money to spend, but when he has bought players in the mid-range market of £3-5 million, they just have not been good enough and that is why Liverpool's bench has been so poor in recent months."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/7801708/Alan-Hansen-the-time-was-right-for-Rafael-Benitez-to-leave-Liverpool.html

So suddenly, Rafa's signings in the £5-10m bracket were ok then? And exactly how many top players have the big clubs bought in that tiny £3-5m window? It doesn't matter. Clearly someone had pointed out to Hansen after his October article (Paul Tomkins for one) that Pepe Reina (£6m) was an undisputed superb signing in the aforementioned £3-10m price range. But instead of dropping it, he simply moved the goalposts in order to fit what he wanted to say. Never mind that the examples he used to prove his point in his first article (£7m Vidic and £5.5m Evra) were now effectively excluded. The idea was to conjure up reasons for Rafa's sacking that fit a certain profile. It's what they all spent last season and beyond doing, and before anyone says anything, there were obviously causes for concern last season. What I'm saying is that every one of these ex-Liverpool players turned pundits completely ignored those (possibly because they weren't sexy enough) and concentrated on twisting the facts into something bigger. Hansen was one of the worst offenders, so what he said last night didn't surprise me in the least.

I used to think that Hansen was different to the others, but clearly I was wrong. Uber-respect as always for what he achieved as a player, that goes without saying, but I expect nothing from him these days, or his ilk. These ex-Liverpool players that we all so admired when they played for us have since reinvented themselves as pundits (Hansen, Whelan, Lawrenson, Redknapp (ok, "admired" might be a strong word here), Houghton, McMahon, Molby, Souness). Have we heard any of them making much noise about the real issues at the club as we know them? Which is funny because you couldn’t shut the fuckers up last season. These individuals have made a living based on the fact that they used to play for this club, the implication always being that they “know” the club inside out, that they have some kind of insight into it. Where better to get the inside track on all that ails Liverpool than former captain and legend Alan Hansen / Ronnie Whelan / Graeme Souness, right? Yet they have no sense of responsibility whatsoever. They embrace the "legend" tag willingly while shunning the club that gave it to them in the first place.

Which is why it’s so damaging when Alan Hansen simply dismisses the protests and the ownership issue like his did last night. “Forget the manager, forget the owners.” And people are out there taking this as gospel because this is Alan Hansen! I had a feeling of foreboding from the moment I saw him squashed onto the couch beside Seedorf and Dixon. Hansen never appears on MOTD 2, am I right? But the red flashing phone in Wayne Hansen Manor must have been ringing off the hook as soon as Kyrgiakos’ header was saved deep into injury-time yesterday afternoon. “Shit, Liverpool have lost at home to Blackpool, they’re in the relegation zone, get Hansen in here now!!” (I wonder how much his fee was last night, by the way, from a television corporation funded by the tax-payer?) And once again, what depth of anlysis did we get? Put it this way, if Alan Hansen's MOTD 2 analysis last night was a swimming pool, I'd let my toddler go in the deep-end.

But, as I've alluded to, I don't think we can blame stupidity for this. Just like Hansen's shifting of the goalposts last season with regard to Rafa to suit an agenda, that's exactly what he and his kind are doing this season with the real issues at the club. Certain ex-players (Molby and Whelan that I know of) have already explicitly stated that this is Rafa's fault. Meanwhile, no criticism whatsoever has been sent in Roy Hodgson's direction, despite the manifold faults exhibited by our manager thus far. And for the most part (Thommo being the most honourable of exceptions) the ownership/refinancing issue has been swept under the carpet. What Hansen said last night is no different to what Jeff Stelling said about the supporters concentrating on what's happening on the pitch, or Colin Murray's idiotic aside after they showed pictures of the march, something along the lines of "the Blackpool fans are the exact opposite, win, lose, or draw they're singing and supporting their team, they're just awesome," as if to say the Liverpool fans who marched should be more like them (and he's one of us you say?).

It all follows a pattern, it's fitting an agenda, and anyone who watched the half-arsed broadsides and insidious half-truths and lies launched at Rafa over, not one, but six years should know very well that this is what's happening, and also that it works. It does work. Well all I'll say is that you can have tremendous amounts of respect for what someone did on the football pitch, but there comes a time to man the fuck up and take a stand for something you love and care about. Hansen and the others who would absolve the owners (even partially) and Hodgson, instead putting the blame solely on the players (and they deserve their share, but not all of it) or Rafa Benitez, are either cowards or they don't give a shit about this club. There is no option C as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: MOTD Thread
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Re: MOTD Thread
« Reply #5953 on: October 4, 2010, 02:07:11 pm »
They're protecting themselves.

Sure, sometimes you think to yourself that the consistent failure of these people to understand even the simplest of events is solely down to them not even having enough braincells to form a five-a-side pub team. And most of the time you'd be right. In this case, however, nobody's going to tell me that Hansen isn't aware of what's going on at Liverpool. You don't need to have been captain of the club for the best part of a decade to have a basic grasp of that. Hansen and many more of our former players, the ones you might expect to be following Thommo's example and actually doing something positive for their former employers by speaking out and telling the truth, have been eerily silent and, in many cases, have actually been spreading misinformation. Hansen's "forget the manager, forget the owners" comment last night is a prime example.

To me, it's just another case of going with the flow, sticking to an agenda that might not be theirs but damned if they're going to deviate too much from it. After all, what's in it for them to rock the boat? Nothing. These people are comfortable, way too comfortable to be sticking their heads above the parapet and making a stand for the club they supposedly love. In my view, it’s also one of the main reasons that their logic regarding Rafa always seemed so skewed and distorted (not to mention nonsensical). The general flow of opinion was only ever going one way, why go against the grain? I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the only ex-players I heard defending Rafa last season (John Barnes and Peter Beardsley) are not professional pundits, and therefore, have no agenda to stick to. I don’t know what they’re doing with themselves these days, but I rarely see or hear either of them talk about the game. A lot of our ex-players, on the other hand, make a comfortable living off television, radio and newspapers, and feel no responsibility (or affection) for this club anymore, at least not as much as they do for their pay cheques. That’s the reality.

I don't want to bring this back to Rafa too much, believe it or not I'm doing my best to forget him out of pure necessity. But look at the evidence. Even last season, his worst at the club, many of our ex-players sought to ignore the real causes for concern (yes, for once they actually had some real reasons to criticise him) and instead continued to twist facts and outright lie. Remember Ronnie Whelan stating on RTE that the Liverpool side which beat Debrecen 1-0 at Anfield cost £250m? But once again, Hansen was the best example of logic being butchered and the truth twisted to suit an agenda. In an article published on 19th October 2009, Hansen said the following: "Benítez has struggled in the £3-10m region...Benítez hasn't done well with anybody in that price region...over a length of time, you need four or five players in the £3-10m bracket to become great buys, but I don't see any at Liverpool."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/6366147/Alan-Hansen-Liverpool-cannot-afford-to-lose-this-week.html

This is not the place to argue his point, merely to state what Hansen said. By 4th June 2010, in the immediate aftermath of Rafa's exit, Hansen had altered his position...er, somewhat. "Benítez has had money to spend, but when he has bought players in the mid-range market of £3-5 million, they just have not been good enough and that is why Liverpool's bench has been so poor in recent months."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/7801708/Alan-Hansen-the-time-was-right-for-Rafael-Benitez-to-leave-Liverpool.html

So suddenly, Rafa's signings in the £5-10m bracket were ok then? And exactly how many top players have the big clubs bought in that tiny £3-5m window? It doesn't matter. Clearly someone had pointed out to Hansen after his October article (Paul Tomkins for one) that Pepe Reina (£6m) was an undisputed superb signing in the aforementioned £3-10m price range. But instead of dropping it, he simply moved the goalposts in order to fit what he wanted to say. Never mind that the examples he used to prove his point in his first article (£7m Vidic and £5.5m Evra) were now effectively excluded. The idea was to conjure up reasons for Rafa's sacking that fit a certain profile. It's what they all spent last season and beyond doing, and before anyone says anything, there were obviously causes for concern last season. What I'm saying is that every one of these ex-Liverpool players turned pundits completely ignored those (possibly because they weren't sexy enough) and concentrated on twisting the facts into something bigger. Hansen was one of the worst offenders, so what he said last night didn't surprise me in the least.

I used to think that Hansen was different to the others, but clearly I was wrong. Uber-respect as always for what he achieved as a player, that goes without saying, but I expect nothing from him these days, or his ilk. These ex-Liverpool players that we all so admired when they played for us have since reinvented themselves as pundits (Hansen, Whelan, Lawrenson, Redknapp (ok, "admired" might be a strong word here), Houghton, McMahon, Molby, Souness). Have we heard any of them making much noise about the real issues at the club as we know them? Which is funny because you couldn’t shut the fuckers up last season. These individuals have made a living based on the fact that they used to play for this club, the implication always being that they “know” the club inside out, that they have some kind of insight into it. Where better to get the inside track on all that ails Liverpool than former captain and legend Alan Hansen / Ronnie Whelan / Graeme Souness, right? Yet they have no sense of responsibility whatsoever. They embrace the "legend" tag willingly while shunning the club that gave it to them in the first place.

Which is why it’s so damaging when Alan Hansen simply dismisses the protests and the ownership issue like his did last night. “Forget the manager, forget the owners.” And people are out there taking this as gospel because this is Alan Hansen! I had a feeling of foreboding from the moment I saw him squashed onto the couch beside Seedorf and Dixon. Hansen never appears on MOTD 2, am I right? But the red flashing phone in Wayne Hansen Manor must have been ringing off the hook as soon as Kyrgiakos’ header was saved deep into injury-time yesterday afternoon. “Shit, Liverpool have lost at home to Blackpool, they’re in the relegation zone, get Hansen in here now!!” (I wonder how much his fee was last night, by the way, from a television corporation funded by the tax-payer?) And once again, what depth of anlysis did we get? Put it this way, if Alan Hansen's MOTD 2 analysis last night was a swimming pool, I'd let my toddler go in the deep-end.

But, as I've alluded to, I don't think we can blame stupidity for this. Just like Hansen's shifting of the goalposts last season with regard to Rafa to suit an agenda, that's exactly what he and his kind are doing this season with the real issues at the club. Certain ex-players (Molby and Whelan that I know of) have already explicitly stated that this is Rafa's fault. Meanwhile, no criticism whatsoever has been sent in Roy Hodgson's direction, despite the manifold faults exhibited by our manager thus far. And for the most part (Thommo being the most honourable of exceptions) the ownership/refinancing issue has been swept under the carpet. What Hansen said last night is no different to what Jeff Stelling said about the supporters concentrating on what's happening on the pitch, or Colin Murray's idiotic aside after they showed pictures of the march, something along the lines of "the Blackpool fans are the exact opposite, win, lose, or draw they're singing and supporting their team, they're just awesome," as if to say the Liverpool fans who marched should be more like them (and he's one of us you say?).

It all follows a pattern, it's fitting an agenda, and anyone who watched the half-arsed broadsides and insidious half-truths and lies launched at Rafa over, not one, but six years should know very well that this is what's happening, and also that it works. It does work. Well all I'll say is that you can have tremendous amounts of respect for what someone did on the football pitch, but there comes a time to man the fuck up and take a stand for something you love and care about. Hansen and the others who would absolve the owners (even partially) and Hodgson, instead putting the blame solely on the players (and they deserve their share, but not all of it) or Rafa Benitez, are either cowards or they don't give a shit about this club. There is no option C as far as I'm concerned.

great post. couldn't agree more.

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« Reply #5954 on: October 4, 2010, 02:16:51 pm »
Fantastic post E2K. I thought exactly the same as soon as I saw Hansen on that sofa last night.
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« Reply #5955 on: October 4, 2010, 02:33:21 pm »
As an aside, did MOTD mention the Dalglish chant last night? Don't remember it being heard on the highlights or mentioned after but may be wrong. Can only imagine what would have been made of it if it had happened last season, something in the manner of the Gerrard face after Torres was taken off at B'ham I'd guess.
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« Reply #5956 on: October 4, 2010, 03:34:10 pm »
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Superb, as always, E2K.

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And once again, what depth of anlysis did we get? Put it this way, if Alan Hansen's MOTD 2 analysis last night was a swimming pool, I'd let my toddler go in the deep-end.


that in particular made me chuckle ;D
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« Reply #5957 on: October 4, 2010, 03:38:32 pm »
Great post E2K - exactly how I feel about those ex-players. In my personal opinion they don't deserve their 'legend' tags. They're just greedy and selfish and think because they have a mic in front of them they can sprout whatever rubbishing they feel and then have the nerve to say it's because we love the club.
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« Reply #5958 on: October 4, 2010, 03:42:06 pm »
Great read yet again E2K although to be fair Hansen gets wheeled out now and again on MOTD2 when there has been a big game on. I think he'd have been on there anyway with Chelsea v Arsenal on. Doesn't defend what he said (or didn't say) when he had the opportunity to let rip though.

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« Reply #5959 on: October 4, 2010, 03:47:35 pm »
Brilliant post, yet another for the 'quality posts' thread. Do you ever write a post less than excellent? Forgive me for arse-licking, but do you in fact shit 24-carat gold turds? Such is the standard of your writing...

Only one tiny disagreement there - about Colin Murray. I'm almost certain he's a Fulham fan, and indeed he didn't hide that on 5's UEFA coverage, he was practically delerious after the Juve win. I've absolutely no idea where the idea came from that he's a Liverpool fan.

But you're spot on about everything there really.
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