Topic: Crystal Palace

[Drinks Sangria]

Loved watching that Sampdoria side when they had Gullit, Mancini, Lombardo and Jugovic together.

What a team! Won Serie A with Maradona still at Napoli, Inter had the three Germans, Milan had Tres Tulipani, Juve were spending big to chase their resurgence - what a time in a fantastic league. Vialli was still there at that time I think too.

Lampard and Cooper being reported as the favourites for the Palace job now. One to me looks like a competent coach, making his way in his career after some good jobs in youth development and then transitioning to doing a good job as a head coach. The other is an inexperienced, overly-hyped former player, who's excellent career has elevated him to being linked to jobs his CV really doesn't support in any way.

[Zee_26]

They had a Chinese player too. I was at uni with a Palace fan who claimed they were the most supported club in the world because of it!

Was that Sun Jihai?  I remember a similar thing being claimed when he was at City, like tens of millions would tune in to watch him

[FiSh77]

Was that Sun Jihai?  I remember a similar thing being claimed when he was at City, like tens of millions would tune in to watch him

There were 2 Chinese fellas there around the same time in the late 90's early 2000's, can't remember the other one's name

edit: Fan Zhiyi was the other fella

Crystal Palace, a great bunch of lads

[Buck Pete]

Crystal Palace, a great bunch of lads

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Lampard and Cooper being reported as the favourites for the Palace job now. One to me looks like a competent coach, making his way in his career after some good jobs in youth development and then transitioning to doing a good job as a head coach. The other is an inexperienced, overly-hyped former player, who's excellent career has elevated him to being linked to jobs his CV really doesn't support in any way.

Every time I've seen Swansea they've been absolutely horrendous to watch though. But then again, that might be what they need with such upheaval, someone to keep them solid at the back and work from there. Lampard would be a disaster.

[Phineus]

They become relegation favourites if Lampard gets the job.

Wonder if Nuno deal fell through as it became apparent their plans (or lack thereof) for investing in a squad that sorely needs it.

[zimmie'5555]

Was that Sun Jihai?  I remember a similar thing being claimed when he was at City, like tens of millions would tune in to watch him

Fan Zhiyi

[Red-Soldier]

Fan Zhiyi

And also Sun Jihai.

Both very good on Champ Manager for some reason.

[zimmie'5555]

And also Sun Jihai.

Both very good on Champ Manager for some reason.

I used to get Zhiyi because they had him as D, M, F. Handy from the bench

[Red-Soldier]

I used to get Zhiyi because they had him as D, M, F. Handy from the bench

Yeah I remember him being a DMF 

[rafathegaffa83]

These two paragraphs sum up a lot about managerial recruitment. No long-term vision, philosophy or understanding of personnel

Favre is understood to have been identified by Palace’s co-chairman Steve Parish as a leading contender because of his reputation for building attacking teams and blooding young players.

Burnley’s Sean Dyche is also thought to remain a contender even though any move is likely to be contingent on sizeable compensation.
https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/17/crystal-palace-sound-out-former-borussia-dortmund-manager-lucien-favre?

[Fromola]

These two paragraphs sum up a lot about managerial recruitment. No long-term vision, philosophy or understanding of personnel

Since Palace got promoted to the PL in 2013 they've been managed by Ian Holloway, Tony Pulis, Alan Pardew, Sam Allardyce, Colin Wanker, Frank De Boer (4 games) and Roy Hodgson.

Whoever they appoint will get 10 games before they go back to one of these.

[Dim Glas]

These two paragraphs sum up a lot about managerial recruitment. No long-term vision, philosophy or understanding of personnel

It’s like someone just reminded them Favre was without a club.

[Fortneef]

Ah memories..

Lombardo was absolutely fucking brilliant for Palace. Obviously he was a class apart but he also worked really hard.

Brolin was an egg on legs

Ismael was a bizarre signing. We desperately needed a striker so spent 2.7m, our record, on a central defender. He looked ok against good strikers then got murdered by Carl fucking Leaburn.

The chinese were signed the next year by V*n*bl*s. Zhiyi was a cult hero: big, strong, fast, skilfull… but at 30 had spent his career being a relative superstar in a shit leagiue .. so also prone to basic errors.
Jihai was a decent two footed fullback, although hed put both feet into tackles as well.

The recent palace managers you scoff at cant hold a candle in cuntery to El Tel

[Drinks Sangria]

Fortneef, who's your pick for Palace's next manager? They've got to have an appetite to build something new, given the churn that's potentially going to happen.

[Fortneef]

We need someone who can in the short term rebuild a team on the relative cheap and long term get the academy producing. The one thing we've got is all those sarf lunnon cage footballers on our doorstep. There is money to spend.

Benitez.  If he can put up with no budget and Mike Ashley, a bit of cash and Parish should be happy days. 

Le Favre interesting. Successful at several clubs. 

IF Brentford had not got promoted , id have tried to poach the entire set-up. 



the usual suspects fill me with dread

Howe - smug faced twat. I just cant imagine him being successful
Lampard - not convinced he offers anything apart form chelsea loans
Dyche - clog to 15th forever, at best.  Burnley are very white arent they ?
Cooper - on paper he's done well. But Swansea fans seem to be volunteering to drive him here.
Ismael - genius or jammy? 

[zimmie'5555]

Mad that Palace, Everton and Spuds are still without a manager. Especially with Howe, Nuno and Rafa out of work. Palace haven't exactly had inspiring managerial choices in recent times so probably someone safer like Howe, though I suspect he's waiting on the Everton job first.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Lucien Favre has agreed to take over, pending the award of a work permit, says the Athletic.

Quality get for them, especially when Everton and Spurs are fumbling for a new boss.

[disgraced cake]

What makes me laugh is seeing a few Everton fans angry they haven't gone for Favre, because they don't want an ageing coach who's best days are behind him like Rafa, despite Favre being older and not achieving anywhere near the glory Rafa has. I don't think it'll be a particularly good appointment for Palace, even if a lot of it is down to the squad being overhauled, can actually see it going similar to De Boer even if he is a better manager. He should last a little longer than him anyway!

I think Palace will be right down there next season, but do think they'll stay up

[Caligula?]

Good luck to him but he's going to spectacularly fail. Probably of no fault of his own too. The high player turnover coupled with the fact that the ones that are staying aren't very good at all makes the job a bit of a poisoned chalice.

[Samie]

Kudos to Palace they've put Spurs and Everton to shame with this.

[Max_powers]

The first season will be challenging for him because he will need to assemble pretty much a brand new team.

The players they have will not be really trained in playing his style of football either, having previously employed Owl, Pulis, Fat Sam, Pardew etc. But I think Zaha and Eze can do well under him with time.

If he can avoid relegation I think he would have done well and then can build on that. 

[Flaccido Dongingo]

The first season will be challenging for him because he will need to assemble pretty much a brand new team.

The players they have will not be really trained in playing his style of football either, having previously employed Owl, Pulis, Fat Sam, Pardew etc. But I think Zaha and Eze can do well under him with time.

If he can avoid relegation I think he would have done well and then can build on that.

Eze is a super young player.

[rafathegaffa83]

Interesting that like with Nuno, Favre's reps let Palace know of his interest, rather than Palace seeking him out. Only two coaches to follow him  which probably appealed to Palace. The Athletic has said they also interviewed Marco Silva. Lille and Fenerbahce were also interested in Favre; Everton considered a late pitch.

It will be interesting to see how much patience they give him. They want someone who can promote/work with younger players and play more progressive football, but they also have loads of players out of contract and a wantaway star that nobody wants to pay Palace's asking price

[Dim Glas]

Not sure how Favre will work out at Palace.

If they stick with him, it may work out.

He does seem to work better in lower expectation situations put it that way!

Personality wise he’s definately a better fit for Palace than he was a club like Dortmund where they didn’t take to him from the get go.

[Fortneef]

Im happy, certainly gives me more hope than the usual suspects.

I don't recognise any parallels with Fraud de Boer.
Le Favre has successfully managed 6 teams in 3 countries. While de Boer is a simple Ajax drone, which is fine for revitalising Ajax, and possibly Holland, or even building a team from scratch,  but a liability anywhere else. 

[zimmie'5555]

Eze is a super young player.

Eze is also out for the season

[Dave McCoy]

Will be interesting to see how the fans take to him.  At times Favre's tactics for his team aren't far removed from Hodgson's and there's going to be a lot of new players to integrate.  He seems like a nice guy so hope it works out but I'm not sure any manager bar Pep or Klopp could guarantee success for Palace this season.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Eze is also out for the season

Didn't know that, shame.

[disgraced cake]

Favre now not going there apparently

[Barefoot Doctor]

Favre now not going there apparently

Ha just saw that. Late offer from elsewhere? Or just realised that it’s too big a rebuilding job?

[rafathegaffa83]

Favre now not going there apparently

Ha just saw that. Late offer from elsewhere? Or just realised that it’s too big a rebuilding job?

Athletic are saying he told Palace he doesn't feel ready to return to top-level management and has no other offers. And on that line of thinking, didn't Nuno leave Wolves in part as he wanted to be closer to his family in Portugal?

I wonder if Palace will go back after Marco Silva or the likes of Howe

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

What a shitshow. Apparently he's just got cold feet and decided he wants longer out of the game.

At this point Spurs, Palace and Everton should just merge.

[Schmidt]

We need someone who can in the short term rebuild a team on the relative cheap and long term get the academy producing. The one thing we've got is all those sarf lunnon cage footballers on our doorstep. There is money to spend.

Benitez.  If he can put up with no budget and Mike Ashley, a bit of cash and Parish should be happy days. 

Le Favre interesting. Successful at several clubs. 

IF Brentford had not got promoted , id have tried to poach the entire set-up. 



the usual suspects fill me with dread

Howe - smug faced twat. I just cant imagine him being successful
Lampard - not convinced he offers anything apart form chelsea loans
Dyche - clog to 15th forever, at best.  Burnley are very white arent they ?
Cooper - on paper he's done well. But Swansea fans seem to be volunteering to drive him here.
Ismael - genius or jammy? 

Incredibly level-headed response, something that seems rare when fans discuss manager options!

I'm kind of amazed Rafa hasn't been snapped up already, such a detail-oriented, hardworking manager could do a lot for quite a few poorly run premier league clubs, it seems like the hatchet job the pundits did on him during his stint with us really has stuck in the minds of a lot of people.

[Fortneef]

Ok im crying myself to sleep tonight 

[Crosby Nick]

If he doesn’t feel ready to return to top level management then surely he’s nailed on for Everton?

[Dim Glas]

Ok im crying myself to sleep tonight 

just tell yourself he wasn’t the right man for the job!

He probably wasn’t!

[jackh]

Athletic are saying he told Palace he doesn't feel ready to return to top-level management and has no other offers. And on that line of thinking, didn't Nuno leave Wolves in part as he wanted to be closer to his family in Portugal?

I wonder if Palace will go back after Marco Silva or the likes of Howe

Wonder if he might end up at Goodison then.

Agh.  FFS, Nick.  Just read further down the page

[Dave McCoy]

Just think that anybody taking that job starts with the guillotine already hanging over them and Favre wisely realized that.  De Boer isn't a great or even good manager but they gave him all of 7 games and when you look at their schedule for this season you wonder how any manager will make it through even 7 here with the rebuild job they have.  Might finally put my money where my mouth is on Palace going down this year.

[Caligula?]

I reckon they'll hire an Alan Pardew/Steve Bruce/Tony Pulis/Colin Wanker/Mark Hughes and spectacularly fail next season and go down. They've grossly mismanaged their situation. Knowing Hodgson's age and the fact that sooner or later he was going to retire and not plan for it is awful. That and the player contract situation.