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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #440 on: March 22, 2022, 01:29:52 pm »
I agree with the United bias - His performance stats for the season are OK, but look at the suggested price on Dalot after the first season for a bang average player with bang average stats. At least double my most expensive player (Salah: £130m - £142M)

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #441 on: March 22, 2022, 09:31:03 pm »
In my 5th season with Wakefield City. First season 15th in the conf North, second season playoffs but lost the semi, third season won the play offs.

First season in the national conference and we just missed out on playoffs. Over the summer I saw that two 50% of profit clauses I put in the contracts of two youth players i took on for the first team then sold were available to be cashed in. Brought the bank from 300k to 2.5m!!

This season is going well, we are deffos gonna get a play off spot, managed to get to the 3rd round of the fa Cup and lucked out with an away draw at stamford Bridge (adding another 900k to the bank).

Finally the board has agreed we can go professional at the end of the season (5 years of semi pro) and I'm unsure whether to spunk my wad now and push for league two or save it for the increased running costs.

Major problems being this low down is the lack of sponsorship and attendance. We've got 10% of what Stockport get in relation to crowds and our sponsorship income is 11k compared to their 2.8m per annum. Its going to be such a damn slog to turn these lads into a real team

I also wonder if something is built into the game to recognise that Wakefield isn't a footballing city, which is keeping the crowds so poor.

Hey ho, its fun.

We're into season 8 now. It took three seasons to get promoted from the conference national finishing 2nd and winning the playoffs (so thats the end of season six) but somehow we tore it up in League Two immediately and got promoted from League Two finishing second again (80 odd points as opposed to 100 odd points the season before). Except for a mid season wobble in January we were the best team by miles.

So here we are in League One. This is going to be tough. We have sponsorship income of £50,000 per season. Burton have £5m. Our wage budget is less than 60k a week. We are still only getting 1200 or so per game.

There is no way we are going to be able to get past teams like Hull, Sheff Weds and QPR. On the other hand, I wasn't expecting instant promotion from League Two, so as long as we stay up, a few seasons of building isn't so bad.
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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #442 on: April 8, 2022, 09:10:17 am »
Footie Manager 22 is free on Epic

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #443 on: April 8, 2022, 04:04:42 pm »
Footie Manager 22 is free on Epic

It's just a free weekend

I saw it pop up on my desktop last night and clicked it thinking it was free but was on sale at £26-ish, just checked now and it says free to play until the 11th and on sale until the 12th

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #444 on: April 9, 2022, 04:44:47 am »
Epic could fuck up a cup of coffee  ;D

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #445 on: May 21, 2022, 12:00:16 pm »
https://www.pcgamer.com/why-i-love-the-surprisingly-tactical-thrill-of-cheating-in-football-manager/

Made me laugh cause I took away City's sugar daddy status, Chelsea's, and did so much to United they're in League One

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #446 on: May 21, 2022, 01:07:46 pm »
I've been doing a really fun game this year, taking me forever like. I started it just before the Jan transfer window patch.

I started up as Monaco to try and break the PSG monopoly on French football. It has worked out for me trophy wise but PSG still sign Haaland, Greenwood, Pedri etc for hundreds of millions. Haaland will score 70 goals a season for PSG in all competitions but they'll somehow drop lots of silly points each year and I'll win Ligue 1 by 7-10 points. They even nabbed Ben-Yedder from me on a free but I have a pretty excellent squad. Satriano from Inter being the crown jewel, cost me £11m and now has an in-game worth of £100m two seasons on. Touchameni as a Mezz with my best player, a Colombian regen CM called John Garcia dominate the midfield and the all-french CB pairing of Badiashile and Omar Solet is the Ligue 1 version of Virgil and Matip. I'm in summer 2026, we've since got a new stadium being built, 36k (where did they find the room in Monaco though?) so that's nice. The new stadium is named after Jean-Luc Ettori, who I hadn't heard of before but with 755 appearances for Monaco you can't go wrong there. I had a game on FM21 where I decided to build Wolfsburg up, and they built "The Edin Dzeko Arena" which was cringe as he was still playing and my squad had won more for the club than he had!

Since the success started rolling in, I decided to take up some "nation building" projects around the top leagues in Europe. I've been controlling a manager at Malaga, Viktoria Koln, Cambridge Utd, Beira-Mar and Pisa who are now all into the top divisions after a few seasons of trying. The plan was that seeing as there's no money in the Portugese league to have Beira-Mar be the new supplier of South American wonderkids to the rest of Europe. I started up at B-M in the 4th division, somehow getting Diogo Nascimento on a free who is now the club captain and has charged them up into the big time in Portugal.

I lost the Championship playoff final as Cambridge to Swansea I think but then absolutely destroyed the Championship in the next season to finish 1st with 100+ points. Suddenly you then have to discard the group of overachievers that got you there because the game's AI doesn't favour your underdogs. That's always a bit sad. I got a £25m budget as Cambridge entering the Premier League for the first time but Pisa were given fuck all for getting into Serie A, and my top striker retired (Iemello I think his name is) meaning I then had to sell a few other of their best players to raise some funds elsewhere.

I've found on FM that you can coast through the lower leagues with the same squad playing aggressive attacking football but the big time hurts. I finished top half as Viktoria Koln in the first season up in the Bundesliga but we had easily the worst goal difference in the whole division after getting smacked for 6-7 each game against Bayern, Dortmund, and Leverkusen. It was the dodgy 2-1s at home and 3-3s away here and there that kept them safe. We also have a tiny new stadium (Viktoria K start off with a 10k ground and the Bundesliga minimum size is 15k). The new one is actually being expanded to 23k which is amazing for where we started, however each time work is done the club rent out the 30k BayArena so we make more money being there anyway ;D

Finally, Malaga, who are absolutely brilliant. I made a Congolese manager called Yorick N'Zinga, and come top 4 with them a lot now even though the squad is a bit low on quality (Atletico suck and I can't compete with Barca/Real), but I have the B and U19 team full of high potential Spanish and African kids and I think by the time we hit 2030 in the game they'll be the best team in Spain. Really can't wait to show off that.

Somehow I manage to do this, put 170 hours into Elden Ring and work the full-time job IRL too. Maybe I should buy my partner some flowers soon...
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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #447 on: May 25, 2022, 11:32:23 am »
bought the mobile version as i have a few flights upcoming to pass time.
Won the league cup but messed up the CL group and fell out of the EL to napoli after winning the first leg 3-0. Lost the FA cup semi final to Arsenal as well. However my crowning glory was being unbeaten in the league after 33 games with an 11 point lead on Chelsea. Lost game 34 again to Arsenal and went on holiday in disgust forgetting i hadnt actually won the league. Whilst on holiday we took 1 point from the final 4 games and lost the league on goal difference.

whacked £170 on Haaland to soften the blow.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #448 on: May 25, 2022, 03:27:05 pm »
bought the mobile version as i have a few flights upcoming to pass time.
Won the league cup but messed up the CL group and fell out of the EL to napoli after winning the first leg 3-0. Lost the FA cup semi final to Arsenal as well. However my crowning glory was being unbeaten in the league after 33 games with an 11 point lead on Chelsea. Lost game 34 again to Arsenal and went on holiday in disgust forgetting i hadnt actually won the league. Whilst on holiday we took 1 point from the final 4 games and lost the league on goal difference.

whacked £170 on Haaland to soften the blow.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #449 on: June 5, 2022, 08:49:00 pm »
Finally started playing FM21 this weekend, I bought it in the early May bank holiday in 2021 but never got round to starting a game. Deleted all of the official kits and faces and i'm good to go, York have been selected and I plan on taking them to the Champions League within 10 years.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #450 on: July 28, 2022, 02:44:06 pm »
Difference between Fm21 & Fm22.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #451 on: July 28, 2022, 03:52:57 pm »
Match engine is better in 22 for me but if you have 21 it's not all that big an upgrade. If you're still playing an older version, you should go for it.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #452 on: September 3, 2022, 10:30:04 am »
I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #453 on: September 3, 2022, 05:31:23 pm »
I just play the Mobile version on my phone now, stripped back without all of the unnecessary guff on the PC version nowadays.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #454 on: September 4, 2022, 10:11:58 pm »
I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

There was a more basic version (Football Manager Touch) but they binned it off for some reason.

The XBOX edition, which you can play on PC, is less involved. I really enjoyed it when I had a brief free trial of gamepass.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #455 on: September 8, 2022, 08:46:42 am »
I just play the Mobile version on my phone now, stripped back without all of the unnecessary guff on the PC version nowadays.

Really weird how the "desktop" version doesn't have a million options for removing stuff from the game, I'm totally fed up of press conferences and there should be an option to just remove them completely! Sending assistant is fine but it still hurts your rep! just let me turn them off

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #456 on: September 8, 2022, 10:04:52 am »
If anyone has Amazon Prime, they're giving away FM22 on Amazon Prime Gaming among other titles. You get a download key for the Epic Store.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #457 on: September 9, 2022, 06:04:22 am »
I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.
I agree. The Touch version on PC should have been a solution to this but they binned it off pretty much. I don't think I've completed a whole season in this year's game. I'm halfway through a season I started nearly a month ago. Just too much time even if you delegate stuff.

Release announcement for FM 23 dropped. No news on features yet but they're bringing the console version to PS5. Plus they managed to secure licencing for UEFA competitions. Good news for those who don't play on PC or who don't use licence fixes.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #458 on: September 9, 2022, 09:49:31 am »
I agree. The Touch version on PC should have been a solution to this but they binned it off pretty much. I don't think I've completed a whole season in this year's game. I'm halfway through a season I started nearly a month ago. Just too much time even if you delegate stuff.

Release announcement for FM 23 dropped. No news on features yet but they're bringing the console version to PS5. Plus they managed to secure licencing for UEFA competitions. Good news for those who don't play on PC or who don't use licence fixes.

I played one of those versions (either Touch or Mobile) some years ago and it was perfect to get through a whole season per day. If that's what you want, it was the perfect game. It also felt very much like the early FM or even the CM games.

Having said that, I think they've gone in a better direction recently with the FM series. I've been very critical in the past of how in depth, but also how broken the whole game was in some areas. Like you had to basically do real scouting and adjust your tactics for every single match. I absolutely hated that. There were also serious issues in my view with player morale and having to interact with them on a regular basis. If you couldn't be arsed with that, sooner or later things would go tits up. Both those things have gotten better in recent versions. It's possible to create a tactic that works most of the team with limited tweaking (which you can take advice for from your assistant or some other coach). It's also much easier to deal with players even when they're unhappy about something. The game is still very much in-depth and it takes quite a long time to complete a season, but I think compared to some older versions from five years or so ago it's much more fun to play at the moment. Having said that, I think it wouldn't be a mistake for them to take a year off and do a complete overhaul in terms of what features they have, what engine they use, what the GUI looks like and in terms of usability. As it is, it's all kind of a clusterfuck, because essentially they're still using the same menus from the old games, but have over the years added five million additional features and it's a chore going through all the menus.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #459 on: September 9, 2022, 03:14:52 pm »
I played one of those versions (either Touch or Mobile) some years ago and it was perfect to get through a whole season per day. If that's what you want, it was the perfect game. It also felt very much like the early FM or even the CM games.

Having said that, I think they've gone in a better direction recently with the FM series. I've been very critical in the past of how in depth, but also how broken the whole game was in some areas. Like you had to basically do real scouting and adjust your tactics for every single match. I absolutely hated that. There were also serious issues in my view with player morale and having to interact with them on a regular basis. If you couldn't be arsed with that, sooner or later things would go tits up. Both those things have gotten better in recent versions. It's possible to create a tactic that works most of the team with limited tweaking (which you can take advice for from your assistant or some other coach). It's also much easier to deal with players even when they're unhappy about something. The game is still very much in-depth and it takes quite a long time to complete a season, but I think compared to some older versions from five years or so ago it's much more fun to play at the moment. Having said that, I think it wouldn't be a mistake for them to take a year off and do a complete overhaul in terms of what features they have, what engine they use, what the GUI looks like and in terms of usability. As it is, it's all kind of a clusterfuck, because essentially they're still using the same menus from the old games, but have over the years added five million additional features and it's a chore going through all the menus.
I agree with your post.

Touch had its limitations but I really enjoyed the speed at which I could go through a save and the fact it shared the same match engine and AI as the main game(even without ever using instant result), I just wish they could have kept working on it but I suppose it didn't really make them much money.

I still enjoy the game for what it is but it's very frustrating if you don't have all that much time to spend on it. Completely agree with the GUI and user interface. I got into CM/FM quite early but if I were to get into it now, I'd probably be overwhelmed.

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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #460 on: September 9, 2022, 06:15:05 pm »
I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

I gave up on FM a fair few years ago because it just felt like tactics were getting prioritised over players and the match engine was representing that in really stupid ways.  Like if you had a great team but tactics that weren't what the ME thinks are solid tactics, then you'd get really erratic behaviour from players, stuff like players just booting it off the pitch, missing easy passes or strikers with great stats whiffing chance after chance after clear cut chance.  Was really stupid.
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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #461 on: September 11, 2022, 04:39:45 pm »
I really hope they've spent a bit more time with the match engine this time around.

Also, another issue I have with the game is once you've built an all-conquering side, the game becomes a bit too easy. Swatting teams 3, 4, 5-0 every week. Racking up ridiculous GD and finishing 15-20+ points ahead of everyone each season. I'd like the AI to give me a bit more of a challenge than that because it can become boring for me.
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Re: Football Manager Series
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Re: Football Manager Series
« Reply #463 on: September 18, 2022, 07:36:46 pm »
Does Brexit mean that I can't sign foreign U18 players in England? and if so can you still turn it off in the editor?