Topic: Coates confirmed

[newterp]

I thought he played the ball on the floor well enough and even his long balls weren't exactly hoofs. There's a difference between being under pressure and so punting anywhere you can with distance versus what he does - which is pick out a player (often Suarez) and his passes seem to be kind of "driven" with power and are normally accurate. He certainly wasn't hitting high, floating, aimless punts.

so very very true. 

[El_Pistolero]

I thought his best tackle was one a couple yards outside the area in a central position where the player pushed it to Coates' left and looked to have shifted it wide enough that he was going to get around Coates but Coates stood his ground and stuck out a telescopic leg whilst staying on his feet to win the tackle. I thought it was a very impressive challenge! Looked like there was no way he could get there. All this whilst staying on his feet!

I remember that one. "Fucking tackle!" I shouted at my screen.

[bigbear]

I would leave him in the side now. Let's see if he's good enough.

We need a dominant centre back and nobody else at the club fits the bill so why not.

[Anywhichwayicant]

I would leave him in the side now. Let's see if he's good enough.

We need a dominant centre back and nobody else at the club fits the bill so why not.

Absolutely.

[Rein(a) in Blood]

Is it just me...?

[john_mac]

hasn't done enough, drop him

[TepidT2O]

hasn't done enough, drop him

Personally, I'd stick with him for a but.

Sticking with a centre back combination leads to stability IMO.

[m4Rco]

If Agger is fit and plays alongside Carragher, I'd give him a try in the DM next to Gerrard, Adam or Henderson. He seems to be capable of doing some great passes. If he performes well in the defensive midfield, we could rest Lucas once in a while.

[CHOPPER]

If Agger is fit and plays alongside Carragher, I'd give him a try in the DM next to Gerrard, Adam or Henderson. He seems to be capable of doing some great passes. If he performes well in the defensive midfield, we could rest Lucas once in a while.

What the mother fucking fuck mother are you on about.

[john_mac]

What the mother fucking fuck mother are you on about.

yeah, he's done fuck all from what I can see, drop him

[funkykingston]

If Agger is fit and plays alongside Carragher, I'd give him a try in the DM next to Gerrard, Adam or Henderson. He seems to be capable of doing some great passes. If he performes well in the defensive midfield, we could rest Lucas once in a while.

I'd rather see Herman Munster or (oooh) Betty, wife of Frank Spencer in the holding role

[freedom]

If Agger is fit and plays alongside Carragher, I'd give him a try in the DM next to Gerrard, Adam or Henderson. He seems to be capable of doing some great passes. If he performes well in the defensive midfield, we could rest Lucas once in a while.

[Ryde-On]

If Agger is fit and plays alongside Carragher, I'd give him a try in the DM next to Gerrard, Adam or Henderson. He seems to be capable of doing some great passes. If he performes well in the defensive midfield, we could rest Lucas once in a while.

Well done, my friend....you've just posted the largest amount of shit I've ever read on RAWK.....and I've been on here some years now.

[Chirpy Red]

I'd keep him for Wolves.

[buzzing]

Keep him in for Wolves. Not a "hard" game and it's at home. Did okay the other day. Passing needs to improve so hopefully a good win can boost his confidence

[GEMSTAR58]

Skrtel and Coates against Wolves!

[farawayred]

Skrtel and Coates against Wolves!

Can't see Coates coming in for this game unless through injuries. We need to bounce back in the PL and there is little room for experimentation. He needs to play a few more games alongside Carra to get his ear drums ruptured before he can play with Skrtel or Agger.

[Reds and Revs]

I'm all for keeping him in the lineup especially against wolves.

He took care of more crosses in the air defensively than we've seen from several of our CBs, which is one of Wolves' main threats.

He had good awareness of opponents off the ball.

He passed the ball well, with more penetration and control than any CB aside from Agger for the last several years.

The only complaint I had was he almost seemed deferential while jockeying for position on corners/free kicks. He'll soon see that the Premiereship is all about obstruction and hands on, while looking at the ball.

[m4Rco]

What the hell? Whats wrong with trying a young lad in the DM role? A DM player is a ballwinner and passer and Seb seems to be able to do both of it. I know Lucas is the messiahs here and all that, he's a great lad and part of the team, no discussion, but we can't let Lucas play all of our games, he'll simply need a rest sooner or later. Either Agger or Coates could be an option if needed, I'm sure.

[Uruguayan36]

And Coates is there...

Coates has been named to defend Uruguay once again.

http://simplyfutbol.com/2011/09/tabarez-makes-callup-for-qualifiers/

If he was named for Tabarez is because he is in his way to be a great player.

And he is only 20 years old...
 
Let him play for Liverpool...trust him... and in two years time he could be a legend for the reds.

[Aristotle]

What the hell? Whats wrong with trying a young lad in the DM role? A DM player is a ballwinner and passer and Seb seems to be able to do both of it. I know Lucas is the messiahs here and all that, he's a great lad and part of the team, no discussion, but we can't let Lucas play all of our games, he'll simply need a rest sooner or later. Either Agger or Coates could be an option if needed, I'm sure.

Because playing a young lad out of position is usually something you use in moments of desperation or when he's not good at anything in particular. Coates is good as a center back, he made his name as one and he was bought to play there. Do you remember Carra as an anchor man in midfield compared to the CB of 2005-2007 era?

[Diomedieocre]

What the hell? Whats wrong with trying a young lad in the DM role? A DM player is a ballwinner and passer and Seb seems to be able to do both of it. I know Lucas is the messiahs here and all that, he's a great lad and part of the team, no discussion, but we can't let Lucas play all of our games, he'll simply need a rest sooner or later. Either Agger or Coates could be an option if needed, I'm sure.

The lad hasnt even proved himself in his natural position for us yet.

[m4Rco]

Because playing a young lad out of position is usually something you use in moments of desperation or when he's not good at anything in particular. Coates is good as a center back, he made his name as one and he was bought to play there. Do you remember Carra as an anchor man in midfield compared to the CB of 2005-2007 era?

I know, I know, playing him out of position wouldn't be the wisest option, yet it's an option. Look at one of the young modern centerbacks: Mats Hummels. He's normally a centerback but he's also capable of playing on the 6.

He shouldn't be played on the 6 week in, week out. He's a centerback after all, of course. But thinking of him and Agger as an option is simply not facepalm-able or "the most stupid thing ever in rawk". Some people really need to get a grip.

[farawayred]

M4rco, Aristotle is right though. Why risk a game being messed up because a young lad is played out of position? It's a big ask. If you argue that he'd do a good job there, with I may even be inclined to agree, we have Adam and Spearing who are earmarked for that position. Coates would have to exceed their level. I know that Adam has had somewhat deserved criticism, but he's still better than Coates in a DM role. Well, in an emergency situation, put him there by all means, but why intentionally accept unnecessary risk?

[m4Rco]

M4rco, Aristotle is right though. Why risk a game being messed up because a young lad is played out of position? It's a big ask. If you argue that he'd do a good job there, with I may even be inclined to agree, we have Adam and Spearing who are earmarked for that position. Coates would have to exceed their level. I know that Adam has had somewhat deserved criticism, but he's still better than Coates in a DM role. Well, in an emergency situation, put him there by all means, but why intentionally accept unnecessary risk?

Fair enough and I'm not saying that Coates should be played ahead of any of those, who are currently set in the midfield. I'm just saying that he may be an option if we need a ballwinning midfielder.

[_Lfc_]

If Agger is fit and plays alongside Carragher, I'd give him a try in the DM next to Gerrard, Adam or Henderson. He seems to be capable of doing some great passes. If he performes well in the defensive midfield, we could rest Lucas once in a while.

Sure why not put him up front? He' 6'6 and seems to be able to head the ball 

[Uruguayan36]

Well...if he plays next weekend we will have a better idea if he is what we expect.

[harleydanger]

I think he's a monster and in 6 months it'll be Phil Jones LOL

[edmundljs]

Is it just me...?

No... I mentioned it long ago when (before / after) he signed. Striking resemblance eh? Anyway Alonso is now in my country preparing for the race.

[adamski29]

From a very  early impression of him admittedly, I love the nip in the bud, proactive type of defending he does. Reminds me of sami, in style I mean.

[s_andrews89]

From a very  early impression of him admittedly, I love the nip in the bud, proactive type of defending he does. Reminds me of sami, in style I mean.

Hopefully we'll look back on his impact on the team in the same way as Sami, and he doesn't just remind of Sami in style but in pure awesome-ness too. Looks really good to me. Leave him in for Wolves I'd say, however I expect a Carra and Skrtel CB partnership.

[Dash Snow]

I think he will be top class in a few years.

[majestic_11]

Fair enough and I'm not saying that Coates should be played ahead of any of those, who are currently set in the midfield. I'm just saying that he may be an option if we need a ballwinning midfielder.

Neither he or Agger are mobile enough to play dm in the premier league.

[6BigCups]

Neither he or Agger are mobile enough to play dm in the premier league.

Huddlestone? Carrick? Either way I dont want Agger ot Coates playing there

[-Daws-]

Is it just me...?

No! When he was at the Bolton (?) game in the stands and the camera switched to him, I genuinely thought, 'Christ, Fernando has got from Belgium to Anfield pretty sharpish - qualifying only finished 2 hours ago!'

Obviously it was Coates, not Fernando Alonso.

[babraham]

Hopefully he can get some game time tonight vs Paraguay. Lugano and Godin started the last game but you never know? Even a run on off the bench would be nice and do him some good.

[Kochevnik]

Don't scare me like that, babra!  I saw his thread on top and thought "Another injury!!"

[soberphobia]

Fair enough and I'm not saying that Coates should be played ahead of any of those, who are currently set in the midfield. I'm just saying that he may be an option if we need a ballwinning midfielder.

Fair enough. I am of the opinion that a great centre half partnership is critical to real success and I have diagreed with a lot of sentiment on here that we are ok there for a few years. Take a look through the premiership winning sides and see the centre half combinations of those sides and they are nearly always immense. Carragher was always a very good C/B but never a great one and he is clearly past his best. Skrtel is a fine player but not a great one and Agger is a class player that is injured a lot. The sooner we find out a bit about this lad the better.

A game like wolves is perfect to give him some time. I would be perfectly happy to see this lad given some time to see what we have and make a move for an elite Centre half to accompany him in the summer. Either that or see if a Kelly/Coates partnership has some potential.

Trees grow from the roots and great football sides are built from the back. We need to settle the back 4 and it would at last seem though we now have two elite quality fullbacks. Centre Half seems to be somehow de valued by many folk as not being as important as perhaps other positions and perhaps that is why folks jumped all over your one of your previous posts. Coates has come from a different league and the last thing we need to do is play a 20 year old in an unfamiliar position when he is already in an unfamiliar league.

[nocturnalvin]

I'd be surprised if centre-halves are devalued on these boards.

[ziggyy]

Trees grow from the roots and great football sides are built from the back. We need to settle the back 4 and it would at last seem though we now have two elite quality fullbacks. Centre Half seems to be somehow de valued by many folk as not being as important as perhaps other positions and perhaps that is why folks jumped all over your one of your previous posts. Coates has come from a different league and the last thing we need to do is play a 20 year old in an unfamiliar position when he is already in an unfamiliar league.

Just to add on to this, Wilson, played left back, was very poor; Skrtel, right back, less said the better; Agger, left back, did ok but was like 60-70% of what he can normally do.  And people (players & fans) tend to remember the 1-2 poor games better than the other 8-9 games that went well. 

I'd leave the playing of players out of position only for emergency situations.