Topic: Everton - The 777 Unflushables

[jacobs chains]

object lesson
noun
a striking practical example of a principle or ideal.
"they responded to daily emergencies in a way that was an object lesson to us all"

If you look how object was used on the sentence it was in reference to an sequence of events that provide a lesson for others and therefore it should have been abject that was used.

Is it object lesson or abject lesson?
The term is occasionally rendered abject lesson, which doesn't make much sense. Abject, an adjective, means low, contemptible, or miserable, and while it's possible to imagine rare instances in which this descriptor might make sense, abject lesson is usually just a misspelling of object lesson.

Low, contemptible, or miserable can you imagine a more relevant set of words to use when Everton are involved? It's all about context.

[Alisson Wonderland]

Is there actually a more depressing club to support in existence? Honest question, since they last won something most teams would have at least celebrated a promotion or something despite previous relegation

Even the likes of Norwich, yo yo clubs but have experienced quite a few good seasons/promotions

No. After Oldham were relegated to the National League last year all 91 other clubs have either won a trophy or promotion since 1995.

Don't forget though, Chairman Bill told them they've had some good times.

There was that time they got to the Cup Final...and lost.  Then there was the time they were celebrating a draw in the Derby by letting a purple flare off as Virgil skyed a shot hopelessly into the air...

[A Red Abroad]

There was that time they got to the Cup Final...and lost.  Then there was the time they were celebrating a draw in the Derby by letting a purple flare off as Virgil skyed a shot hopelessly into the air...

 

[rafathegaffa83]

No offence to Fulham, but how bad are Everton that a player looks at Fulham as a big enough jump to go awol to try and force a move. 

Was just thinking the same thing.

[rob1966]

Seriously though, get it done. There was a part of me that wanted Pickford to go to Man United just to see how much they'd hate him when he'd be dead shit, but now they've signed Onana. I've also been thinking for a couple of years now how much sense Maguire to Everton makes. Seems primed along Scott McTominay to make the switch to Everton when they can finally shift him. That said I'd love to see Maguire see out his contract at Man United.

The Mancs are going to have to heavily subsidise his wages surely, as there is no way that lump is walking away from £175k a week and there is no way on earth the bitters can afford to pay him that.

Be like when Leeds were paying 2/3rds of Fowlers wage when we signed him

[Son of Spion]

Don't forget though, Chairman Bill told them they've had some good times.

There was that time they got to the Cup Final...and lost.  Then there was the time they were celebrating a draw in the Derby by letting a purple flare off as Virgil skyed a shot hopelessly into the air...

You forgot the time they got to celebrate a corner at Anfield.

[Terry de Niro]

You forgot the time they got to celebrate a corner at Anfield.

and the few times the "redshite" lost in Champions League finals.

[Son of Spion]

and the few times the "redshite" lost in Champions League finals.

Bill was right. They have had some good times.

[only6times]

Seeing as that place is looking like a dog's dinner more and more each day, I wonder if it will be sponsored by Pedigree Chum?

Pedigree Chumps more like it!
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Two Blueshite commenting on Anfield. Self  awareness says hello

[So… Howard Philips]

Seeing as that place is looking like a dog's dinner more and more each day, I wonder if it will be sponsored by Pedigree Chum?

Pedigree Chumps more like it!
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Two Blueshite commenting on Anfield. Self  awareness says hello

And they think they’ll get millions selling naming rights for the Bitterdome.

I’ve said it before they’ll lose a lot of impetus moving from the pit. Just to think how you can relax when taking corners or throw ins without running the risk of being struck by a toddler.

[SamLad]

From the comments section (submitted by user Sidfishes) of the Guardian preview of their season...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/04/everton-premier-league-2023-24-preview#comments

"Recipe for disaster

Take 1 deluded over-emotional fantasist with the business acumen of a pissed matelot on shore leave add a shed-full of dark money coming from dubious sources, stir in a leadership team of ‘yes’ people and half-bake for 8 seasons.

The result - a football club that’s both teetering on the edge of bankruptcy and bizarrely facing a financial fair play points deducted with a squad actually much weaker after splurging a huge fortune on players.

Everton’s demise under our chairman should be taught in business schools throughout the known world as an object lesson in how to turn a heritage brand with a loyal customer base into a hollowed out shadow of its former self swirling around the plug hole of oblivion…

Right, now I’ve got the optimism out of the way, what about our prospects this season? Bleak with a prospect of becoming bleaker even if Dyche manages to rally the squad and produce the goods on the pitch to make us into a difficult to beat unit with 44 points as the aim.

Then we only have the inevitable points deduction for our past sins to negotiate, the law suits of a pack of various previously relegated clubs to fend off and the financial fall out from the ground move to deal with.

Looks like I’ve picked the wrong season to come off the booze…"

LMAO  that's excellent.

[Peabee]

And they think they’ll get millions selling naming rights for the Bitterdome.

I’ve said it before they’ll lose a lot of impetus moving from the pit. Just to think how you can relax when taking corners or throw ins without running the risk of being struck by a toddler.

I still think it should be called the Boo Camp or Theatre of Screams.

[Nobby Reserve]

Seeing as that place is looking like a dog's dinner more and more each day, I wonder if it will be sponsored by Pedigree Chum?

Pedigree Chumps more like it!
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Two Blueshite commenting on Anfield. Self  awareness says hello

Winalot is far more appropriate for us

[A Red Abroad]

Winalot is far more appropriate for us

 

[rob1966]

And they think they’ll get millions selling naming rights for the Bitterdome.

I’ve said it before they’ll lose a lot of impetus moving from the pit. Just to think how you can relax when taking corners or throw ins without running the risk of being struck by a toddler.

Something came up on my FB this morning, videos of Rio, Evra (fucking rat), Fergie, Arteta, Wenger, Neville, Ped and a few others saying how Anfield is the hardest ground to play at due to the noise, the players feel it and it can put them off, I well remember Neville in 2006 in the FA Cup game falling apart at within 5 minutes the absolute pelters he was getting from the paddock and the whole "Gary Neville shags his Ma up the shitter".

The Pit had the same advantage, little kids stood on the wall screaming fuck off at them,women with faces like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle egging the kids on and hurling abuse, 5 yr olds flying past, plazzy bottles bouncing off players, they'll lose all that at the Shitworks

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Your daily reminder that these are completely shit.

[newterp]

Your daily reminder that these are completely shit.

You found the little blue pill, did you?

[A Red Abroad]

Your daily reminder that these are completely shit.

 

[A Red Abroad]

You found the little blue pill, did you?

 

[SamLad]

"Gary Neville shags his Ma up the shitter".

Football crowd wit. 

[Black Bull Nova]

Winalot is far more appropriate for us

They don't buy branded dog food, they just buy fresh tripe

[only6times]

You found the little boo pill, did you?

Fixed

[A Red Abroad]

Fixed

 

[Red-Soldier]

Interested in Slabhead, apparently.

[Red Beret]

Plenty of them are sure it's a tax thing so there won't be any points deduction at all

Wasn't Rangers involved in some kind of tax fraud? A points deduction would be the least of their worries if it panned out the same way...

[[new username under construction]]

Wasn't Rangers involved in some kind of tax fraud? A points deduction would be the least of their worries if it panned out the same way...

Will keep your fingers crossed and I'll take either

[newterp]

Wasn't Rangers involved in some kind of tax fraud? A points deduction would be the least of their worries if it panned out the same way...

PL - See here Mr. Everton - you've got a huge pile of debt, can't pay your bills, are on the verge administration, and have lied to your accountants.

Everton Fans - Ok - just give us a fine. Points deduction doesn't make sense.

PL - If we fine you how will you pay it....

Everton Fans - We are building a new stadium and when its done - the cash rolls in....

PL - Don't you need to pay back the stadium?

Everton Fans - Yes - but we have new revenue from the stadium....

PL - ....

[Red Beret]

Isn't there an outside (slim as it may be) possibility that Pikkers knows how shit he is and doesn't want to move to another team? At the Ev he's a hero despite being one of the worst keepers in the league.

I prefer he stays, I think he's part of the problem, despite his god like status because he saves well occasionally.
There is nothing I would love more than to see Pickford shouting at Maguire next season for him just being Maguire.
Honestly, is anyone (including United) serious about wanting Maguire next year? He resides in the 'liabilities' column on any club balance sheet.

As undeniably shit as Pickford is, he probably made the crucial difference to them last year. I can't imagine any Everton backup keeper, or a potential replacement, being any better than he is, so losing him would boost their relegation chances. Especially if they brought in the Easter Island statue

Pickford is definitely a big fish in a small pond at Everton, just like he was at Sunderland. A shit club with a shit defence that padded his stats and made him look better than he was. Can't believe he's still only 29. Makes Mignolet look like a world beater.

[Tobelius]

Interested in Slabhead, apparently.

It'd be like 2 very unattractive people who themselves think they look great,getting married.

[Kopenhagen]

Interested in Slabhead, apparently.

Either the Shite or West Ham - nailed on.

[Bobinhood]

If you look how object was used on the sentence it was in reference to an sequence of events that provide a lesson for others and therefore it should have been abject that was used.

Is it object lesson or abject lesson?
The term is occasionally rendered abject lesson, which doesn't make much sense. Abject, an adjective, means low, contemptible, or miserable, and while it's possible to imagine rare instances in which this descriptor might make sense, abject lesson is usually just a misspelling of object lesson.

Low, contemptible, or miserable can you imagine a more relevant set of words to use when Everton are involved? It's all about context.

Abjection sustained.

[Black Bull Nova]

Pickford is definitely a big fish in a small pond at Everton, just like he was at Sunderland. A shit club with a shit defence that padded his stats and made him look better than he was. Can't believe he's still only 29. Makes Mignolet look like a world beater.

Fish don't have arms either.
I think the issue with Pickford was that he was good at Sunderland the year they went down, I think there are aspects to his game that maybe we don't see that make every team he plays for shit.

[Ghost Town]

If you look how object was used on the sentence it was in reference to an sequence of events that provide a lesson for others and therefore it should have been abject that was used.

Er...no

Is it object lesson or abject lesson?
The term is occasionally rendered abject lesson, which doesn't make much sense. Abject, an adjective, means low, contemptible, or miserable, and while it's possible to imagine rare instances in which this descriptor might make sense, abject lesson is usually just a misspelling of object lesson.

Low, contemptible, or miserable can you imagine a more relevant set of words to use when Everton are involved? It's all about context.

Why are you bringing 'abject' into it? Apart, of course, from it being about the Ev, so I can sort of see why the word loomed large in your mind, lol

[4pool]

Not been paying attention but what have been the results for Evertons preseason so far?

[Schmidt]

Not been paying attention but what have been the results for Evertons preseason so far?

Undefeated. We've got a battle on our hands for top four.

[A Red Abroad]

Undefeated. We've got a battle on our hands for top four.

 

[Brian Blessed]

They are so shit we have people here arguing over abject Vs object rather than how shit Everton are. Tbf, they’re both abject objects.

[GreatEx]

Just skimmed through those Guardian previews, love how nearly all of them predict clubs to finish in exactly the same position as the season before, really bold and visionary stuff, definitely worth my time and attention.

[TepidT2O]

Just skimmed through those Guardian previews, love how nearly all of them predict clubs to finish in exactly the same position as the season before, really bold and visionary stuff, definitely worth my time and attention.

I think Everton finish a bit higher

Just because there’s more shite in the league… Sheff U, Luton?  Oh come on. Bournemouth must be in trouble, Palace are weaker, Forest aren’t great at all, Fulham have lost vital players, wolves are sure and Brentford will not have their goalie or striker for nearly half the season

Everton? Dross. But they’ve got a dross manager for a dross club and that will see them ok against that untestable shite opposition.   It’s such a shame Lampard left them

[[new username under construction]]

i object to all the abject chat, you should both eject from the discussion