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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2023, 02:52:13 am »
They had no problem splashing 800m on absolute shite like mudryk and koulibaly. The one player that might have been worth the money is Caicedo, they dithered and missed out. Absolutely beautiful how theyve fucked this one up.
Another midtable season awaits.
That Ukrainian lad was a crazy transfer, so little tangible proof he'd become world class but yeah, £80m and something like a 7 year contract, absolute lunacy.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2023, 02:57:55 am »
They had no problem splashing 800m on absolute shite like mudryk and koulibaly. The one player that might have been worth the money is Caicedo, they dithered and missed out. Absolutely beautiful how theyve fucked this one up.
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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2023, 06:12:59 am »
Chelsea have Moises Caicedo plan for Liverpool opener as transfer battle takes new twist

Chelsea are trying to sign Moises Caicedo ahead of Sunday's match against Liverpool so that he can be presented at Stamford Bridge, according to reports.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1800981/Chelsea-Moises-Caicedo-Liverpool-Premier-League-transfer-news

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2023, 09:12:36 am »
That Ukrainian lad was a crazy transfer, so little tangible proof he'd become world class but yeah, £80m and something like a 7 year contract, absolute lunacy.
Chelsea do stupid stuff because they want to get into a dick swinging match with whichever Club they're up against.  Arsenal wanted Mudryk so Chelsea had to shove their way in. Same thing happened to us with Salah and recently Lavia. Todd Boehly is completely playing into the brash American stereotype and doesn't have a clue how to run a football club. Long may it continue.
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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2023, 02:22:54 pm »
These lot need to be investigated

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« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2023, 02:41:21 pm »
Don't worry. You've seen how seriously the PL is taking the 115 allegations against Abu Dhabi.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2023, 03:10:57 pm »
Tapping up players to add to their FFP violations, absolute scumbags in charge of this lot.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2023, 03:24:19 pm »
Tapping up players to add to their FFP violations, absolute scumbags in charge of this lot.
Always been like that ever since the Russian walked through the door waving his wads of cash.
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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2023, 03:37:03 pm »
There's a reckoning for these c*nts, they've shown the footballing world that they're right up against it.  May as well sign players now I guess as there is a big ban coming for these.

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« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2023, 03:41:45 pm »
Something will have to be done about these. It's clear Todd Boehly's being bank rolled by PIF, everyone knows which means they own two clubs in the one league. It's filthy.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2023, 03:57:27 pm »
Not sure I believe anythng involving FFP and these cheats. Im sure at some point in the coming weeks they will sign someone else and then another. There are no consequences.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2023, 04:02:09 pm »
Dude is crazy, they have Nicholas Jackson as their starting striker. Who? He should have learned that spending 120 million on a CM doesn't win you anything, i.e. Enzo Fernandez (as good of a player as he is)

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« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2023, 04:35:29 pm »
Tapping up players to add to their FFP violations, absolute scumbags in charge of this lot.

Do any clubs actually care about tapping up any more?

I fell like Liverpool's approach to Van Dijk was the last time it was an issue.
Since then it seems that in almost every deal the buying club has contact with the player before they talk to the selling club.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2023, 04:37:41 pm »
Clearlake get funding from PIF. 

PIF basically has two clubs in the Premier League as well as 4 clubs in the Saudi League.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2023, 04:39:10 pm »
Haven't Chelsea been making operational losses for years, even when they were in the CL? And pretty much the only thing keeping them from falling foul of FFP has been making player trading profits? And possibly some dodgy Abramovich deals?

Now they've dropped out of CL and, by the end of this window, will probably have spent £650m+ NET on transfers in 12 months? They've still got big earners like Lukaku and Sterling on their books (both earning £300k+), and recently gave out expensive extensions and contracts to new players:- reported wages the likes of James (£250k), Fernandez (£300k), Nkunku (£200k), Fofana (£200k), Chilwell (£200k), Cucurella (175k). Apparently offering Caicedo £250k. Their commercial and matchday income is dwarfed by the other CL-competing clubs. Even if they've been giving sensible contracts to the 30 odd players they've signed in the past 12 months, it adds up. They signed FIFTEEN players last year, have signed another six this year and are still looking to add Caicedo, Olise and another midfielder/attacker.

How can there be even a semblance of FFP compliance? If they do get charged I hope they throw the book at them, CL bans and PL points deductions. Another "fine" isn't gonna cut it if a club is just going to flagrantly flout the rules.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2023, 05:11:13 pm »
Clearlake get funding from PIF. 

PIF basically has two clubs in the Premier League as well as 4 clubs in the Saudi League.
But what is PIF’s incentive? It’s not sportswashing when your involvement is hidden, it’s clearly not to make profits, and it can’t be fun to have a plaything that you cannot show yourself to be in charge of…

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #96 on: August 11, 2023, 05:21:41 pm »
But what is PIF’s incentive? It’s not sportswashing when your involvement is hidden, it’s clearly not to make profits, and it can’t be fun to have a plaything that you cannot show yourself to be in charge of…

Do you think their investment (not involvement) will always be hidden ?  The reason they don't own Chelsea is because of the sanctions on Abramovich and that THAT particular deal would come under more scrutiny as Chelsea were essentially being run by the government.  They're very much backed by PIF.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2023, 06:29:05 pm »
Do you think their investment (not involvement) will always be hidden ?  The reason they don't own Chelsea is because of the sanctions on Abramovich and that THAT particular deal would come under more scrutiny as Chelsea were essentially being run by the government.  They're very much backed by PIF.
Even if PIF is an investor, what are they achieving at the moment? And by what mechanism will they overcome the main obstacle to their sportswashing/personal enjoyment objectives, which is the fact that the club is owned by a US private equity firm and cannot currently do all the Saudi branding that, say, Man City does for UAE?

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« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2023, 06:40:35 pm »
But what is PIF’s incentive? It’s not sportswashing when your involvement is hidden, it’s clearly not to make profits, and it can’t be fun to have a plaything that you cannot show yourself to be in charge of…

Long term it will be to be in a position to influence the game in this country. You will see more and more investments being made in English football, and as that grows they get to increase their influence on how the game is run. It’s a very concerning situation long term, and I have no doubt the FA and PremierLeague will sleepwalk their way to losing more power to these huge financial investors.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2023, 06:40:57 pm »
The incentive is an unknown but they absolutely have significant backing from the murdering despots.
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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2023, 07:43:37 pm »
So yesterday theyre getting investigated for financial irregularities, and today theyre spending 200m on 3 players, taking their spending to 1 billion. Its a fucking joke.

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« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2023, 08:05:10 pm »
So yesterday theyre getting investigated for financial irregularities, and today theyre spending 200m on 3 players, taking their spending to 1 billion. Its a fucking joke.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2023, 09:22:33 pm »
Haven't Chelsea been making operational losses for years, even when they were in the CL? And pretty much the only thing keeping them from falling foul of FFP has been making player trading profits? And possibly some dodgy Abramovich deals?

Now they've dropped out of CL and, by the end of this window, will probably have spent £650m+ NET on transfers in 12 months? They've still got big earners like Lukaku and Sterling on their books (both earning £300k+), and recently gave out expensive extensions and contracts to new players:- reported wages the likes of James (£250k), Fernandez (£300k), Nkunku (£200k), Fofana (£200k), Chilwell (£200k), Cucurella (175k). Apparently offering Caicedo £250k. Their commercial and matchday income is dwarfed by the other CL-competing clubs. Even if they've been giving sensible contracts to the 30 odd players they've signed in the past 12 months, it adds up. They signed FIFTEEN players last year, have signed another six this year and are still looking to add Caicedo, Olise and another midfielder/attacker.

How can there be even a semblance of FFP compliance? If they do get charged I hope they throw the book at them, CL bans and PL points deductions. Another "fine" isn't gonna cut it if a club is just going to flagrantly flout the rules.

They're not seriously paying Ben Chilwell £200k a week?!  :o

No wonder Mo was kicking up a fuss about his wages last year seeing a no mark like that earning such big money.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2023, 05:39:07 am »
I hate chelsea more than spurs, bunch of c*nts.
There wouldn’t be man city or Newcastle if it wasnt for chelsea. They were the original sportswashing financially cheating project. Pointed the way to the others that followed. Theyre most to blame for ruining football, and even now theyre shit, theyre still at it.

I hope theyre still in midtable after blowing a billion.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2023, 08:15:22 am »
I caught something on one of the PL's international programs in which there was a discussion about where Chelsea would finish. The consensus was top 4 was perhaps too much for them this year. Imagine any other club spending well over £500m over a two year period, while going backwards in the process, only for pundits to give them a free pass

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« Reply #105 on: August 12, 2023, 08:33:55 am »
Chelsea will break FFP regulations by £200m and get a £10m fine.


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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #106 on: August 12, 2023, 12:12:30 pm »
Always thought Chelsea was a weird investment for a private equity firm in terms of how much you can increase their value and flip them for a profit.

1. Lots of competition to get in the CL places and get the extra £££
2. Need a new stadium to generate further revenues and to build one in London you're probably talking about a £1bn+ investment long payback time on that
3. Heavily subsidised by the previous owner

You'd think there'd be much better places to put your capital and get a return


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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #107 on: August 12, 2023, 12:34:01 pm »
Always thought Chelsea was a weird investment for a private equity firm in terms of how much you can increase their value and flip them for a profit.

1. Lots of competition to get in the CL places and get the extra £££
2. Need a new stadium to generate further revenues and to build one in London you're probably talking about a £1bn+ investment long payback time on that
3. Heavily subsidised by the previous owner

You'd think there'd be much better places to put your capital and get a return
Currently their spending is much crazier than that of Man City, even.

Even then, they were almost relegation candidates last season with a finish of 44 points. Brighton were a full 18 points above.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #108 on: August 12, 2023, 01:01:28 pm »
Always thought Chelsea was a weird investment for a private equity firm in terms of how much you can increase their value and flip them for a profit.

1. Lots of competition to get in the CL places and get the extra £££
2. Need a new stadium to generate further revenues and to build one in London you're probably talking about a £1bn+ investment long payback time on that
3. Heavily subsidised by the previous owner

You'd think there'd be much better places to put your capital and get a return

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #109 on: August 12, 2023, 01:05:12 pm »
But what is PIF’s incentive? It’s not sportswashing when your involvement is hidden, it’s clearly not to make profits, and it can’t be fun to have a plaything that you cannot show yourself to be in charge of…

Yeah it doesn't make sense especially after reading this

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This month, trade title Private Equity International placed Clearlake 14th in its global rankings of private-equity firms and its most recent fund, Clearlake Capital Partners VII, was oversubscribed, raising $14billion for its next shopping spree. It attracted 300 institutional investors — banks, family offices, insurance companies, pension funds and sovereign wealth funds — from more than 40 countries across six continents.
And this is where we get to the nub of it. Those investors can reveal where they are investing if they want to but Clearlake will not (we did check) and neither do any of its rivals. What it will say is that no single investor can account for more than five per cent of a single fund and the average investor has less than one per cent of a fund.

Also we are ignoring the fact that one of terms of the sale is around 1.8b investment into the club. Most likely this money been set aside for this purpose and Boehly used and still using most of it to build a team now for the next 7-8 years at least. People forget how stupid everything he said is after the takeover and his actions, he clearly doesn't know how to run a football club and wasting this money and eventually this will backfire. Maybe the explanation for all this is just Boehly is stupid when it comes to football.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #110 on: August 12, 2023, 03:58:43 pm »
Just read they can't even get a shirt sponsor sorted for our match tomorrow. What a farce of a club. Just shows how little they care about traditional revenue streams given they're being bankrolled by the Saudis.

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« Reply #111 on: August 12, 2023, 03:59:47 pm »
Kepa has gone on loan to Madrid so I am presuming Sanchez will be their goalie tomorrow. Need to seriously test him.
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« Reply #112 on: August 12, 2023, 04:08:12 pm »
Kepa has gone on loan to Madrid so I am presuming Sanchez will be their goalie tomorrow. Need to seriously test him.

I wonder if they'll go in for De Gea, because I can't imagine they're going to have Marcus Bertinelli as their 2nd choice GK. Funny that Kepa could have gone to Real Madrid years ago but Zidane didn't rate him and wanted to keep Navas instead.

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« Reply #113 on: August 12, 2023, 04:14:38 pm »
I wonder if they'll go in for De Gea, because I can't imagine they're going to have Marcus Bertinelli as their 2nd choice GK. Funny that Kepa could have gone to Real Madrid years ago but Zidane didn't rate him and wanted to keep Navas instead.

Who knows who they will have by the end of the week! As has been said in the transfer thread there is no basic plan for how they go about their signings, I just can't see anything other than a struggle for them this season.
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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #114 on: August 13, 2023, 10:56:58 am »
Pochettino bleating on about keeping faith with managers. Didn't do him any favours at Spuds.
 
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« Reply #115 on: August 13, 2023, 10:57:31 am »
We will smash these twats today. I feel it in my bones.
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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #116 on: August 13, 2023, 10:58:38 am »
We will smash these twats today. I feel it in my bones.

I really hope so. Feel like people are underestimating us at the moment too, would love a statement win where we put these in their place.

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Re: Chelsea - The Saudi money is just RESTING in Todd Boehly's Account
« Reply #117 on: August 13, 2023, 04:02:02 pm »
Yeah it doesn't make sense especially after reading this

Also we are ignoring the fact that one of terms of the sale is around 1.8b investment into the club. Most likely this money been set aside for this purpose and Boehly used and still using most of it to build a team now for the next 7-8 years at least. People forget how stupid everything he said is after the takeover and his actions, he clearly doesn't know how to run a football club and wasting this money and eventually this will backfire. Maybe the explanation for all this is just Boehly is stupid when it comes to football.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/12/its-not-a-fad-the-truth-behind-saudi-arabias-dizzying-investment-in-sport

A good article which gives some context. It still doesn’t explain the Chelsea investment fully. In any case, hopefully we win 4-0 today.

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« Reply #118 on: August 13, 2023, 04:10:50 pm »
BREAKING NEWS: Chelsea are preparing a bid for Caicedo.

They plan to include today's matchday revenue to top Liverpool's bid.

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« Reply #119 on: August 13, 2023, 06:14:50 pm »
I’m lost as to who half of their squad is these days.