really? so based on winning it in 66 we are one of the big boys? how about being shite for most of the time since then?
i think were crap myself, and being one of the 'big boys' is meaningless if we get twatted by every half decent team we play every time we reach the finals.
Think you could say the same for most countries.
Denmark of 92, Greece of 04, France have been even worse than England after winning Euro 2000 (bar 2006 finals) and they have very little to show pre-1998.
Netherlands, I can't believe they've won 1 major trophy overall with all the talent theey've produced. I'd rate them among the top tier boys had they not been chokers.
The thing is, had England beaten Portugal in 2004 and 06 in penalties, things could have beeen very different. It's a mentality thing. Stevie and Lampard don't miss a single penalty in club season, yet BOTH of the miss in WC QFs.
But then, if you make a poll on RAWK which NT do you rate more highly now, England, France or Portugal...you'll probably see England coming out last, when it really isn't the case considering France needed an outside of the box peno to qualify, and Portugal are heading to play offs.
England have as much chance of winning the thing as Portugal or France. Which is very little, but still possible. Odds for Greece pre Euro2004 was 1/2000.